Is threatening illegal immigrants going to stop them coming?

[LadyGAgain]

Channel migrants face lifetime ban on returning to UK www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-64848101

I read this with horror. I know we are a tiny island with limited resources but this legislation seems callous and cruel. These people are risking their very existence getting on these small boats and to then be locked up and shipped off again to who knows where. Plus the cost to us as tax payers. AIBU to suggest that I don't have a solution but this one seems extreme.

I heard the fit young men coming over on these boats are aliens.

As in real, actual aliens from another galaxy.

And they're here to eat us.

It’s actually 9% for the U.K. is land being used. Your webpage doesn’t even have a date for its data sources.

The difference isn’t housing or cities but because France and Germany have vast agricultural land. We don’t have as much and are not self sufficient. We depend on them & other EU countries to export around 60% of our food needs to us.

They also have a lot more land to work with, so even though their % is higher, they have more land left over.

What all of them burn their passports to pose as children?

There must be thousands of very tall children sitting in maths class right now.

But they don't do they?

If not stopped, they disembark, run through the sand-dunes then ring the contact that the traffickers have given them and disappear into the 'black economy'

www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1687492/migrants-uk-dover-calais-crossing-police-investigation

Fladdermus It's nice of you to pop in and tell us what we should be doing in the UK, how us Brits should handle immigration, how many we should take and how much land we should build on.

How's immigration going in your country Sweden?

Then how do you know they are young men, but the government doesn't?

Oh I agree. I don't think this government is interested in working with France or exploring safe routes though. They're only interested in speaking to the elements who support UKIP type immigration policies - the ones that encourage hostility.

If you like, only shows how much more people could live there….you could literally send 5 million people to Norway and wow, population density would still only be 28 people per km2 compared to our 265 people per km2

And with global warming, more of their land is becoming quite habitable while we are losing land to flooding and rising sea levels.

God forbid they try eating some of the posters on this thread. Even if dosed in vats of ketchup, the excess of bile and bitterness will be most unpalatable.

Are you a pollsters?

Here is one's predictions for the next parliament.

www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/prediction_main.html

LakieLady
*Given that asylum seekers aren't entitled to claim benefits in the UK^

To be fair - Labour promised to change that in their 2019 manifesto.,

There are, you should see the size of them.

You said the same about Dan Neidle, he wasn't wrong now, was he?

And the Dublin agreement has to comply with the 1951 Refugee Convention

Or would you prefer governments breaking internationall law?

1.5m council homes were sold under RTB. If councils had been allowed to use the income from those sales to build more houses, the waiting list for social housing would be nowhere near as bad.

Was it Sweden? Land that takes in 1 refugee to our 5 refugees? That’s the model country of ultimate refugee welcome and support?

12th richest to us as 25th richest. Almost double the landmass and one tenth the population density- so tons of room to expand populations.

I don’t think you have answers so resort to posts like this.

It’s difficult to solve but all the you’re all bitter isn’t really resonating.

Voters will put on pressure and whilst some will hate it, and go online to vent, it will be what the majority want.

I just don't understand why Norwegians don't have more children themselves to populate their own land, it really is unfathomable.

I think we need to understand why the people crossing over from France or anywhere else in the EU find Britain so much more attractive that they feel the need to put their lives at risk in this way to cross . No good having solutions ignoring this

Would now be a good time to point out that Sweden's population is about 1/7th of that of the UK?

You can see why they suddenly went quiet and couldn’t answer a direct question.

Why?

Yeah, it’s all well and good to be taking in one fifth the refugees when you’re a richer country and are objectively underpopulated compared to most of Europe and so actually need more people immigrating there.

But can’t think that Swedens situation applies to the U.K. And then to suggest we’ve been taken over by “right wing xenophobics” when despite being smaller, poorer, and ten times more crowded we are taking in 5x more refugees than they are?

It’s all spin. Objectively we are doing more than most of the west, and certainly our fair share.

I have made lots of posts setting out my arguments and views. I was making a joke, but I do think some posters here are bitter and full of bile quite frankly.

And the bloody cheek of them, not wanting to live in a failed state where the only bits that aren't in a state of near anarchy are governed by a tyrannical dictator who thinks nothing of killing masses of his own people.

How many of the people fleeing France head to Sweden?