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To say something to inlaws or keep quiet?

233 replies

MakeMineATea · 05/03/2023 10:06

Dh's parents moved away last year to a different part of the country. When they told us they were going, they said they'd visit us once a month for a couple of days, help out with our young dc's, give us an evening out, etc. This happened once a month after they moved and not since. If they've come to see us, it's been a quick visit in a day.

We've had a really difficult couple of years and especially the last few months. Our eldest child has very challenging additional needs and our youngest is still a baby. Myself and dh have mental/physical health problems. Both work.

My parents are 10 years older than dh's parents. They haven't been in good health either and although they would help out, I don't want to put that on them. Dh's parents are in good health and younger. They're financially comfortable. We will visit them in the summer but it's not somewhere we can go to regularly in our circumstances. Dc's are also too young to stay there without us and I don't think it will be a particularly child friendly house either.

I feel like they are full of false promises. Like coming for a few days to help us once a month. FIL said he'd decorate our dc's bedroom about a year ago. We didn't ask, he offered and said he'd do it several times but nothing ever came of it. We didn't follow this up with him, just got a decorator in to do it. They also said they'd give us £1000 to put towards a family car. Again, we didn't ask, it was genuinely and sincerely offered (I thought). A few weeks after that, we got a car, inlaws knew about it and didn't offer the £1000 they offered. We didn't say anything.

Dh and I have been at breaking point recently. The pressure of everything has been huge. It's got so bad for me personally that I'm struggling with self harm as well as other complex mental health problems. Plus trying to hold down a job and be a mum. Them moving away has been extremely difficult as they did see us every one or two weeks before that and it was nice to have that family contact.

It would massively help us if the inlaws would just commit to coming down once a month as they said originally. The problem is, they're not great with being asked for things. It's always on their terms when they fancy seeing their gc. So we feel awkward about asking but then again, if they don't know how we feel and how things actually are, nothing will change. But what if they just don't care?! Should we just keep quiet and not rock the boat? Dh is very hurt and angry about their blow hot blow cold, inconsistent behaviour towards us but has never said anything. Do we open this can of worm or keep the lid on?

OP posts:
Rubyupbeat · 05/03/2023 14:34

Maybe they find the journey and spending a few days full on with your eldest son just too much. I know that's harsh, but could be the reason.

HettyMeg · 05/03/2023 14:36

FourFour · 05/03/2023 14:32

Why on earth do they need to explain themselves. How is travelling from another part of the country, finding accommodation each time, caring for a child with needs which they may find difficult, and then expected to do this monthly something that doesn't sound appealing to them? They may have changed their mind which they are allowed to do. If op is willing to spend money on accommodation then she can find a babysitter!

In which case, they should say they have changed their minds. You don't make promises to close family members like that and get their hopes up and then just break the promise. It would be a different situation if they hadn't made promises in the beginning.

Shinyandnew1 · 05/03/2023 14:38

Maybe they said they’d come and stay but the OP now expects them to go and stay in a hotel!

HiccupHorrendousHaddock · 05/03/2023 14:40

Jesus, @MakeMineATea , you had nine months of free childcare and you’re complaining??

I’m sorry you and your family are struggling, but you are bang out of order on this.

CheshireCats · 05/03/2023 14:44

How old are YOUR parents that you don't even consider asking them?

Pigletnotatwiglet · 05/03/2023 14:45

CheshireCats · 05/03/2023 14:44

How old are YOUR parents that you don't even consider asking them?

her parents are 10 years older so 60's. Not old at all.

whumpthereitis · 05/03/2023 14:47

Isn’t this the umpteenth thread on this?

If so, the in laws that moved away are already carers for the mil’s elderly mother.

CheshireCats · 05/03/2023 14:47

Thought that might be the case @Pigletnotatwiglet
It's all very one sided expectations isn't it op?

fairydust11 · 05/03/2023 14:47

MakeMineATea · 05/03/2023 14:16

Both?!

For instance, mil is coming back for the day this week to do some errands and see friends. She said she wants to see us too but ds will be at school, I have an appointment with dc2 then working in the evening. Dh working during the day. It's just not ideal, there's a lot going on that day. And I feel like she's just doing it for her, not thinking of us at all. And she's not coming to specifically see us, it's for orher reasons.

So it is on their terms

Sorry OP - but you’re being unreasonable.

I’m sorry that you’re struggling, but you cannot put this on the grandparents - if your mil wants to visit to see her friends - she can!

You shouldn’t be depending on them at all. If you see them & they help it’s a bonus.

You need to work out how you can cope on a day to day basis - maybe reduce work hours, pay for childcare etc…be more independent, try to change your mindset that they should be helping you with time and money.

Plus take everything they say with a pinch of salt - they don’t mean it. Good luck.

Shinyandnew1 · 05/03/2023 14:48

whumpthereitis · 05/03/2023 14:47

Isn’t this the umpteenth thread on this?

If so, the in laws that moved away are already carers for the mil’s elderly mother.

Does that poster have the same username?

factnotopinion · 05/03/2023 14:49

Propertyhuntingsucks · 05/03/2023 14:06

My DM is the same, she retired young and healthy and offered to have DS 2 days a week. It never transpired. I never rely on her for anything now and accept that is who she is. She may feel remorse when she is no longer healthy and wants help to get shopping, etc but I won’t offer to assist her as she has the financial means to pay for help. I won’t feel an ounce of guilt about it either. Maybe have the same mindset and forewarn your DH that you will not provide support to them in their later years.

Really think this is the wrong attitude - you will not provide support to them in their later years! Presume then that your DM never raised you as a child, made all the sacrifices required and dealt with all the shitty bits of parenting you for 18 years?

OP echo what others have said, life can feel so tough sometimes and sorry you are feeling so stressed by it all at the moment. Whilst it would be nice to have on tap childcare help and you may feel let down by being offered support, it is not something which millions of mothers have - and so you must on a practical level think about what help will make a day to day difference. I don't think it sounds like a visit every month will be the fix you think it will.

BishBashBoop · 05/03/2023 14:52

If your willing to pay for them to stay on a hotel for 2-3 days a month then realistically you could afford childcare for your eldest DC, even if it was just one day a week

would be better for him if his grandparents could help as it's familiar to him and they know about his needs how familiar can they be if they barely see you all anyway?

Its shit and it's a hard job OP but ultimately it's not on his parents or your parents to help you with your DC. They are your responsibility. I understand how hard it is ( I'm a single mum with no family support ) but it's just the way it is

I'd look at childcare one day a week for your DS,

whumpthereitis · 05/03/2023 14:52

Shinyandnew1 · 05/03/2023 14:48

Does that poster have the same username?

Not a clue, but the details are exactly the same and there have been repeated threads on this.

the in laws hid the fact they were moving from the OP, because they were scared of the reaction they knew they were going to, and did, get.

Laiste · 05/03/2023 14:52

HettyMeg · Today 14:28
My view is that YANBU to expect them to visit and help because they explicitly said they would. However, their behaviour since suggests they don't actually want to put in the effort.

OP has briefly mentioned that they looked after her eldest whilst she was back at work for 9 months ''before covid''. It's forgivable that you missed it as this info. wasn't made much of. That's quite a bit of effort IMO.

The fact that OP glosses 9 months of help over in this thread means she (and/or DH?) was a bit ungrateful at the time and that has affected things?

Pigletnotatwiglet · 05/03/2023 14:54

whumpthereitis · 05/03/2023 14:52

Not a clue, but the details are exactly the same and there have been repeated threads on this.

the in laws hid the fact they were moving from the OP, because they were scared of the reaction they knew they were going to, and did, get.

Lots of threads with exact same scenario getting the exact same results and not hearing it.

Greenfairydust · 05/03/2023 14:55

You have to accept that they are not able/willing to give you the support you want and look at other options.

The reality is that they have their own life and they have no obligation to help you.

It is possible that they did not initially realise how tiring travelling to see you and then looking after your kids would be so they are backtracking on their initial offer which I think is understandable.

You need to find alternative childcare.

macbooks · 05/03/2023 14:55

Honestly OP I read your posts from their perspective and the probable reality is that they’re overwhelmed with your family’s situation. Hence the constant token offers of support that isn’t followed through - they don’t actually deal with it but want to outwardly seem supportive as otherwise they’ll seem cruel. Kids with special needs can be overwhelming. The car situations etc probably led to them thinking it’s one thing after the other with you.

Why did they move away? It seems their intention was always to start a new chapter in their lives…that will always come with a side effect of distancing themselves from the people who lived in their old area. They knew this before moving and still went ahead. This is probably why they said they would visit often so it didn’t come across like they were distancing themselves from you. The reality is that they’ve spent time apart from your family and are okay with that, as they haven’t put much effort into maintaining relationships.

Laiste · 05/03/2023 14:59

At the end of the day your kids are your kids. Parenting shouldn't be entered into on the provisio of x amount of help from anyone else. Any of our parents could keel over dead or emigrate at any point and you need to have enough structure and self reliance built into your life plan to cope alone.

As for counting up how much child care you get from your parents and calculating that against how much help you'll give them when they get old - well - words fail me. Help should be given freely IF you wish to and never as some kind of 'credit' to call in. And that goes both ways. Parent and child.

Guis23 · 05/03/2023 15:03

Lots of people 'pub talk' so to speak. You have learnt not to take 'promises' too seriously.

But you need to see things from their point of view.

It won't be a couple of days for them. A day travelling. Two days with you. A day getting back. Sorting out washing etc and 'recovering' as travelling is tiring and you have a week a month. No sooner they would be back and have to organise the date for next month.

They may have meant well but things have been said without thought.

I very much doubt they mean to be purposefully unkind.

MillicentMold · 05/03/2023 15:03

Your in laws are in their 50’s. They have moved to a new area. They are entitled to their own lives OP. Being grandparents doesn’t mean being burdened with child care.

If they gave up several days every month to “help” with childcare what do you expect from them?

Who provides care for your children now when you and DH are at work?

Propertyhuntingsucks · 05/03/2023 15:06

factnotopinion · 05/03/2023 14:49

Really think this is the wrong attitude - you will not provide support to them in their later years! Presume then that your DM never raised you as a child, made all the sacrifices required and dealt with all the shitty bits of parenting you for 18 years?

OP echo what others have said, life can feel so tough sometimes and sorry you are feeling so stressed by it all at the moment. Whilst it would be nice to have on tap childcare help and you may feel let down by being offered support, it is not something which millions of mothers have - and so you must on a practical level think about what help will make a day to day difference. I don't think it sounds like a visit every month will be the fix you think it will.

No my DM was an alcoholic and very obviously favoured my DB from an early age. She provided childcare for DN every weekend. There is so much more to it but I won’t derail.

endoftheworldniteclub · 05/03/2023 15:07

Who provides care for your children now when you and DH are at work?

Op refuses to answer this question again and again.

Laiste · 05/03/2023 15:07

Anyone here who has more than one child and hopes for lots of help from their parents or inlaws - are you all going to retire and give the same amount of childcare to all* *your grand kids as soon as they need it? There could be quite a lot of them by the time you're in your 60s. That's a big commitment.

Has OPs DH got siblings? Are they also asking the parents for childcare?

Shinyandnew1 · 05/03/2023 15:09

endoftheworldniteclub · 05/03/2023 15:07

Who provides care for your children now when you and DH are at work?

Op refuses to answer this question again and again.

OP has refused to answer any questions I’ve asked!

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