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Asked to keep it down in a restaurant.

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EmpressOfTheSofa · 05/03/2023 08:12

Pretty mortified tbh but I don’t think this was right or fair.

We were a family group of 9 on a large table celebrating a birthday. It was a very ‘naice‘ restaurant (£30 main courses type of place) but the music was really loud. We were probably quite noisy but not obnoxiously so, we were laughing at childhood stories. Not swearing or shouting or chucking food or arguing.

In the middle of our main courses a waiter came over and asked us to please keep it down as another table had complained.

It really put a shadow over the whole thing. We go out as a family a few times a year and have NEVER been asked to be quiet or had any kind of complaint so I am fairly confident we weren’t actually arseholes. It was a large table so we weren’t whispering to each other, but equally not yelling. Although the music got really loud as the evening went on so we probably were ‘loud’ but only so we could converse.

I have worked in hospitality for many years and I just wouldn’t have had this conversation as a waiter unless someone was really disturbing other guests. I’d have nodded and smiled at the complainers and given them a free drink.

So, oh wise Mners. YABU you lot were clearly obnoxious arseholes who should have been thrown out. Or YANBU this was an odd thing to tell a large party in a busy and very loud restaurant.

OP posts:
EmpressOfTheSofa · 05/03/2023 21:02

Donnashair · 05/03/2023 21:00

So they didnt say there been a complaint from anyone else at all?

No, it all got a bit lost in translation last night. They spoke to DH (he was on the outside of the table iysim) and he passed it down and I think we just assumed it was a complaint. It may have been but they didn’t actually say that.

OP posts:
Tooley76 · 05/03/2023 21:03

EmpressOfTheSofa · 05/03/2023 20:58

I’ve just had a nosey around Tripadvisor and their bad reviews are all about it being noisy, with rude staff and mediocre food.

I really don’t think it was us. As I’ve said we go out frequently as a whole family and have never been asked/told to be quiet. I think the restaurant is just a bit crap generally.

DH has just said he’s not sure there was even a complaint as the waiter actually just said ‘can you keep the volume down’. Reading reviews of people being told off by the staff for such crimes as asking for a table and wanting to have a drink at the bar makes me think this is a them issue.

Definitely PSK!

Daffodilsandbeer · 05/03/2023 21:09

Tooley76 · 05/03/2023 21:03

Definitely PSK!

Isn’t that in Manchester, op said it was Brighton.

Glitteratitar · 05/03/2023 21:10

Tooley76 · 05/03/2023 21:03

Definitely PSK!

That’s not in Brighton…

OldFan · 05/03/2023 21:19

@EmpressOfTheSofa If the Tripadvisor reviews have said the restaurant is noisy then maybe it's that they're (rightly) trying to act on that feedback. (I still think someone probably complained that night, though.)

TheFifthTellytubby · 05/03/2023 22:09

In response to suggestions that the music was turned up to drown out the noise the OP's table was making... wouldn't that be a bit daft, as surely it would have the opposite effect and make them even louder? Or were they supposed to give up trying to communicate altogether and eat in silence or use sign language? 🤷‍♀️

LaDamaDeElche · 06/03/2023 07:29

How many of you were there? I do think if restaurants want a quiet ambience (which it doesn’t sound like there was anyway) they should offer a private dining room for groups of 10 or more, or just don’t take large bookings like that if they can’t, as it’s pretty difficult to keep the noise down when in a big group, even if you’re not being individually particularly noisy.

CallieG · 06/03/2023 07:47

I would have told them that the music was so loud we couldn’t hear each other & would they please turn it down

clairelouwho · 06/03/2023 08:07

EmpressOfTheSofa · 05/03/2023 08:38

Well tbh I do slightly think that the needs of a large table to be able to converse in a loud restaurant outweigh the needs of a couple to eat dinner in silence.

Which is why I suspect it was a VIP customer as I can’t imagine telling a group to pipe down unless they were being actually obnoxious (swearing/shouting).

If they want a quiet atmosphere then banging dance tunes and large tables aren’t conducive to this.

So you think that your right to enjoy your night trumps the right of others to enjoy theirs. But you don’t think you’re more important. Gotcha.

It’s impossible to say how loud or obnoxious you were being without being there. However, I don’t imagine that the waiter would have approached you for just normal amount of noise. If that was the case they would have simply apologised to the other customers and got on without saying anything to you.

Its very possible that you were louder than you realised. Most people don’t know or realise how loud they are until someone else points it out. What you thought was a reasonable amount of noise others thought was unreasonable.

I think we’ve all been somewhere where there’s a really loud bunch of people and they just monopolise the entire place and you’re unable to enjoy yourself because all you can hear is them. I don’t think that they do it on purpose but they’re just oblivious to the level of noise they’re making.

ancientgran · 06/03/2023 09:57

EmpressOfTheSofa · 05/03/2023 20:58

I’ve just had a nosey around Tripadvisor and their bad reviews are all about it being noisy, with rude staff and mediocre food.

I really don’t think it was us. As I’ve said we go out frequently as a whole family and have never been asked/told to be quiet. I think the restaurant is just a bit crap generally.

DH has just said he’s not sure there was even a complaint as the waiter actually just said ‘can you keep the volume down’. Reading reviews of people being told off by the staff for such crimes as asking for a table and wanting to have a drink at the bar makes me think this is a them issue.

You weren't told to be quiet were you? You said you were asked to keep it down which isn't the same thing.

You said yourself you would imagine your noise would be annoying so why the shock that people found it annoying?

Obki · 06/03/2023 10:01

From this quiet introvert, I think your fun was annoying someone and rather than consider why they were so bored with their company, they took it out in you.

I’m sorry you let it upset you, you should have just kept the merriment but at a quieter level.

DaisyDaisyDaisyDaisyDaisyDaisy · 06/03/2023 10:01

I always look at reviews of a place I've not been to first. If you'd done that you would have saved yourself £800

Obki · 06/03/2023 10:01

CallieG · 06/03/2023 07:47

I would have told them that the music was so loud we couldn’t hear each other & would they please turn it down

Yes!

FrostyFifi · 06/03/2023 10:05

Turning music up louder will make everyone speak more loudly, it won't drown anyone out unless you turn it up to the point where the entire room has to give up on attempting to converse altogether.

FrostyFifi · 06/03/2023 10:05

But OP basically you're being berated on here because you dared to go out, spend money and have fun and MN has a very puritan bent these days.

SerafinasGoose · 06/03/2023 10:15

notomato · 05/03/2023 19:47

The restaurant is at fault here. Loud music means that everyone has to talk loudly, plus taking bookings for large tables when they perhaps don't have the space or anything to deaden sound, as seems trendy now. They should have offered to move those who complained if it were that noisy but I would personally expect any restaurant to be busy and noisy at 9pm on a Saturday night. There was no need to make you all feel bad. Yes, you were probably being noisy but it wasn't handled well. I wouldn't leave a review, just don't go there again. Some of the nasty comments on this thread though, completely unnecessary.

Agree with this.

If I want loud music I'll go to a rock gig. It's not a good fit with a restaurant at all: people naturally want to have dinner conversation.

Unless a party is aggressive in tone, or foulmouthed, or keep giving side-eye as though daring someone else to challenge them, I like hearing other people having a great time.

ArmWrestlingWithChasNDave · 06/03/2023 10:15

FrostyFifi · 06/03/2023 10:05

But OP basically you're being berated on here because you dared to go out, spend money and have fun and MN has a very puritan bent these days.

Puritan 😂
It's actually because she and her family spoiled other people's fun.

ancientgran · 06/03/2023 10:19

Obki · 06/03/2023 10:01

From this quiet introvert, I think your fun was annoying someone and rather than consider why they were so bored with their company, they took it out in you.

I’m sorry you let it upset you, you should have just kept the merriment but at a quieter level.

Maybe they were bored as they couldn't have a conversation due to the noise from OP and her family. Horrible to sit there listening to rowdy people and you can't speak to your own companions.

FrostyFifi · 06/03/2023 10:24

It's actually because she and her family spoiled other people's fun.

Or possibly the shit service and over-loud music did? Or possibly everyone else was having fun and the waiter was just an arse?
So many possibilities. Unless you were there of course.

Obki · 06/03/2023 10:38

ancientgran · 06/03/2023 10:19

Maybe they were bored as they couldn't have a conversation due to the noise from OP and her family. Horrible to sit there listening to rowdy people and you can't speak to your own companions.

They couldn’t have a conversation due to the loud music that forced other people to speak more loudly.

ArmWrestlingWithChasNDave · 06/03/2023 10:39

FrostyFifi · 06/03/2023 10:24

It's actually because she and her family spoiled other people's fun.

Or possibly the shit service and over-loud music did? Or possibly everyone else was having fun and the waiter was just an arse?
So many possibilities. Unless you were there of course.

Gosh, if only we had information from somebody who was there and confirms that staff don't have a word unless the table actually IS being disruptive.

lazycats · 06/03/2023 10:41

My bet is your probably were being bloody loud. Doesn't mean I'd have complained as a nearby diner though - it's not exactly unexpected when you go out to eat.

Shz · 06/03/2023 11:46

So you picked and went to a nice restaurant and where having a lovely time bellowing at each other over music you stare to have been very loud and having been asked by wait staff to keep it down for the comfort and enjoyment of other guests you have subsequently decided the vibe was weird, the decor was not to your taste and you might leave a review to that effect. Which will just make you look like a bit of a plonker to be honest.

Having also worked in hospitality I can assure you that complaints from other guests are taken into account and acted upon accordingly if they have merit.

KarmaStar · 06/03/2023 12:02

I would have asked them to turn the music down so didn't have to shout over it.
However,there are some people who are naturally loud talkers,it's possible to sit in a large coffee shop and hear one conversation above all others as the loud people have no awareness/care about the volume they chat at.
did you hav e two or three conversations going on at once?
don't let it stop you all going out and enjoying other family meals op.

Luckyduc · 06/03/2023 13:23

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