To be upset that toddlers and babies are being subjected to this.

[flashbac]

This is abuse. What kind of parent takes their baby to a show like this?

I am skeptical about sugar replacement as I remember, what happened with butter replacement. I remember being told to not eat eggs, I remember being told beef was safe and piles of burnt cows not long after.

I remember reading Edinburgh Action for trans health.

Lots of academia research is a load of bollocks.

I am not invested in it, it's useful, I am interested as i am about what Buddhism is, I don't ignore it, I am not a believer in it anymore than anything else, as it's not my religion.

I think we have a pretty good idea of the damage the internet can cause. Look what it’s done to these women for a start.

Thank God my kids have grown up. I would not put them in any school today, no way.

It's been a very long term process.

Its partly documented in fwr.
But boils down to, peadophiles are gonna do their thing.

One or two of them state openly,
It might not be me who gets this child, but I've made it a lot easier for the next one.

So this and DQST and pride becoming a fetish central and other stuff, all adds up to making it much easier to change childrens boundaries.

Can you imagine letting your child pet a "pup play" man and laughing, taking a picture. How does that make your child feel? How many boundaries are broken by that one event. Yet it's happened and the man sat by the "pups" had a visible erection.
Someone will have that picture, from a pride a few years ago. If they are on here they might post it.

Oh yeah, it’s obvious that that’s where it’s leading. It’s the last taboo, right?

This seems like non contact sexual abuse to me.

Non-contact behaviours include:
• making sexual comments directly in person, in letters, or by telephone, text
messages or email
• voyeurism
• exposing a child to pornography
• exposing parts of the perpetrator’s body or the child’s body
• exploiting a child through prostitution or pornography.

The following also need to be considered:
Power differential – wherein the abuser has power over the abused. This power may be physical or psychological in nature.
Knowledge differential – wherein the abuser has a more sophisticated understanding of the situation than the abused. This may be due to an age difference or cognitive/emotional differences.
Gratification differential – wherein the abuser seeks gratification for themselves and not the abused.

Seems to tick all the boxes there.
It's a disgrace that safeguarding children is being eroded and this grooming is taking place under the guise of affirmation, validation, being kind or whatever bullshit they are spouting.

Too far SunShineAllMine and very offensive.

I was a sahm until my children went to school and then worked part time, so I'm not taking your post personally.

What on earth do you hope to achieve by putting down any group of women like this, including working mothers? Some choose to work, some have to. I'm sure they all love their children passionately and would do absolutely anything for them. I can't believe you wrote that.

Lots of academia research is a load of bollocks.

I am not invested in it, it's useful, I am interested as i am about what Buddhism is, I don't ignore it, I am not a believer in it anymore than anything else, as it's not my religion.

By all mean be critical of research but don't spout unadulterated bollocks without ANY evidence. Which is what you did.

Your comment about working mothers choosing not to safeguard their own children was baseless and designed to insult people.

There was a drag queen who was banned from performing at the National Theatre recently after he said that "Children should open their minds... and open their legs".

I've seen a clip of this and some women in the audience were actually laughing!

It's not a coincidence that some of these drag acts make jokes about raping children. It's not a coincidence that they call women 'fish' because our bodies are disgusting and smelly. It's not a coincidence that so many have names that mock our bodies or the fact we love our children. Off the top of my head, I can think of Molestia Child, Anna Bortion, Miss Carriage and two queens named after murdered children. I'm sure there are loads more.

Throughout history whenever there has been an oppressed group there's also been a few useful idiots in that group who identify with the oppressors because they think it will make them more safe or more special. These women who pretend to think drag is cool are either ignorant of the fact that drag is built on demeaning women, or they believe that going along with it makes them more cool than the rest of us women.

Imagine being so desperate to look cool that you pretend to think jokes about child rape are funny.

@LindorDoubleChoc I live in East Dul/Peckham Rye. What East Dul pub is buying into this awfulness now?!

What the hell have aspartame and marg got to do with mothers safeguarding their children?

@knittingaddict
I don't agree with SunShineAllMine's views about why these women took their babies to this - but what do you think?
Why did so many women expose their babies to such inappropriate acts? They can't all be the sort of women who would turn a blind eye to the fathers of these babies taking them to a strip club, so why did they do this?

The pics and vids make it look like great fun tbh. Most of the people there appear to be enjoying it. Seems it’s mostly for the adults with babies just chilling?

Apparently according to some, none will be Mother's or women, it's insulting and I should have my face smashed in by doors or whatever.

Wtf are you going on about??
You posted a sweeping generalisation that claimed working mothers don't prioritise the safeguarding of our own children, it was rightly challenged as it's blatantly untrue.

That's not the same as saying NO women ever harm their children.
Maybe you should engage with research more.....

I don't see what working mothers has to do with this. Of course I condemn the women who attended that event. What sane person wouldn't, but do any of us know who in that group was a working mum or a sahm. I don't even understand why it's a point of discussion. Just another way to bash a group of women instead of the individual women who took their babies to see drag queens.

People fall for all sorts of bollocks. Jamie Oliver said don't eat sugar so...

Those telling us follow the science during the pandemic were shagging married women.

I am then told to join cults beliefs, that it is an insult to not follow or worship their lifestyle choices and not think for myself about consequences.

I don't see what working mothers has to do with this. Of course I condemn the women who attended that event. What sane person wouldn't, but do any of us know who in that group was a working mum or a sahm. I don't even understand why it's a point of discussion. Just another way to bash a group of women instead of the individual women who took their babies to see drag queens.

Exactly!
Some people will shoehorn in any excuse to bash working mothers however tenuous.

It's not untrue, women are in teaching, police, politics, SS, NHS and are safeguarding failures because this carries on in their workplace.

There are a few who took their employers to court, most enabled it because they are selfish yet would make at work, a mother homeless if DV happened in the home to safeguard her child.

If they can't safeguard at work they can't at home.

Double standards.

How many cower behind Rosie Duffield, totally useless and many will be mother's.

Ah @LindorDoubleChoc just seen your earlier post re the East Dul pub. The Great Exhibition. That's hugely disappointing as it's an otherwise lovely neighbourhood pub. 😡

It has got zero to do with being working mothers. The suggestion that it is is entirely, and deliberately, offensive.

These mothers simply want to be cool. They don't want to be associated with the Daily Mail reading, 'transphobic' and 'homophobic' women so much that they are performing how cool they are by demonstrating that they are different. They believe that any man who identifies as a woman is one, they believe that by taking their babies to events like this they are showing their support, it doesn't affect them if they lose their spaces so they don't care if their face is in the paper. It's a badge of pride. They are on the right side of history.

These women are like Patsy Stevenson (at the Sarah Everard vigil). They are so desperate to be 'on the right side of history' their brains have fallen out.

They don't realise that they are simple useful idiots. These men don't care about them. They despise them. They, and their babies, are being used to advance Queer Theory.

I agree - working mothers have nothing to do with this.
But I can't get my head around the fact that so many women suspended their critical thinking and took their babies! Why?
Did they not think?
Were they afraid of saying no?
Or something else?

Cross posted with lifeturnsonadime!
Thank you.

It has nothing to do with working mothers and everything to with sexual deviants and other degenerates, who have used the media, and primarily the internet, to brainwash the gormless masses into thinking this is somehow acceptable.

The whole world has descended down the rabbit hole en masse.

What I don't understand is this. If I had turned up to this event, as a white western women, with my hair done in cornrows and wearing a sari, a lot of those attending would have been disgusted at my 'cultural appropriation' and I would have been shunned. However, drag 'artists', with their vile and disrespectful characterizations of women are apparently OK somehow. It seems perfectly acceptable, to them, that men can take the piss out of women in this way, but if I wore a sari because I think they are beautiful that's wrong. Just another case of women having to put up with stuff that men want to do.