To be upset that toddlers and babies are being subjected to this.

[flashbac]

This is abuse. What kind of parent takes their baby to a show like this?

Worst of all is that this has been moved into schools.

My DC come home every week saying they have had an assembly, lesson, and talk by an external organisation on LGBTQ+. Last week my 13-year-old had 2 sessions and then I got an email from the school about book week the link was full of teenage romance books for gay teen boys. My eldest got asked if they wanted to write and give a speech on LGBTQ+ and declined because he doesn't want to be involved in it and thinks someone identifying in this area should do it.

Both now come home saying FFS, why are we doing this AGAIN 😫They say, we get it, people can be whatever they want to be, but why do we have to have this rammed down our throat all the time? I actually think it will have the opposite effect on teens. They are getting sick of it.

I spotted this nonsense in early 2015, my MP due to my appointment with them, is why in part - Teresa Mays government thought again and safeguarded single sex spaces, and why we have some protection compared to other countries, not much granted. I achieved that when others were too shit scared to visit their MP in person.

I will continue to think as I like thanks and don't attribute others comments to me again please.

Case in point:

Man takes underage friend and daughter to strip club

It is NO different to what these mothers are doing taking kids to see nearly naked drag acts and should be treated as such. Same as the woman who was taking her baby sons to her job as a stripper with her.

It's also ironic that women who say pole dancing is a valid form of expression get screeched at about it but for Men who like to play dress up as women it's "empowering" and "art".

The rules should be blanket. Don't expose yourself to children. Some "art" is inappropriate for children to see and just because you are "Trans" you shouldn't get a free pass to act like a fucking pervert,

Can’t believe I’ve just read this anti-working mother misogynist bullshit on Mumsnet. The far right is clearly using the trans wars to drag some women towards anti-feminist far right positions.

Safe Schools Alliance have been working tirelessly to support parents in challenging this in schools. They've got sample letters and numerous resources to use:

safeschoolsallianceuk.net/schools-resources-and-policies/

Unfortunately we've all got to become "that parent" and speak out.

Okay, sorry I mixed your post about the drug company’s with the other poster’s psychiatric medication suggestion. It was a legitimate mistake. Not an attempt to strawman.

But no need to go to the insult that I’m either brainless or dull minded.

Yet I was brave enough to visit my MP when the name callers were too frightened to do so, crack on, I will continue to believe and think as I like.

Well, that's great and I applaud you for that-I really do-but I still disagree with your definition of what the opposite to a an open mind is.

I hope if you turn up at an MP of any party with this nonsense about working mothers they’d slam the door in your face as a green inker.

Just found a video of it on twitter. There is a Dad in the audience.
Is it just me or does everyone seem really uncomfortable?
twitter.com/dave24144975/status/1631925156456153088?t=WvmmFmVUcQrIT1s5J7xyXg&s=19

You sound violent to those who don't agree with you.

Some of the performers are biological females judging from some of the photos. There's a photo of a woman in a pair of knickers and nipple covers lifting up a toddler. There's question as to wether it's actually her child or not, but it's being used as a publicity shot so not OK either way.

I don't care which sex the performers are which sex they think they are or which sex they are attracted to. I care that this is highly inappropriate to be taking young children and babies to and the parents who think this is a good idea need to have a good long look inwards and work out why the hell they find this sexually explicit material appropriate for young minds and eyes.

Those parents would have got a shock if they had been met on the way out by a team of social workers ready to take their children into temporary care while they explained themselves.

It might have shocked some common sense into them.

I'm so glad the tide seems to be turning in general on this.

Even in places where I was sure I was going to see massive backlash when Hogwarts Legacy came out what I actually observed was people on both sides of the debate shutting down any of the bullshit. The general consensus was "We are so sick of having this shoved down our throats at any opportunity and Trans women specifically inserting themselves into every drama to try and play the victim".

Also refreshing to see that our teens and the LGB community (most of whom I understand to have felt forced into being allies) are waking up to how ridiculous it all is.

”I believe working mothers safeguard their colleagues instead of their children because the bond is broken, they bond to those they spend most of their time with.”

No. I don’t think that is true. It may be true in some very small numbers.

I think there are other factors at play rather than this though.

I just really really really don't understand what would possess you to take your baby to this? Just what? What in the fuck? Would you pop down the local strip club or adult cinema with them? No. But this is fine? Absolutely grim.

I know both are ideologically captured, but they haven't managed to officially re-write safeguarding laws just yet

I don’t know a single social worker that would be ok with this, the governmental departments may be captured but they don’t represent the rank and file of social work.

The question must be always asked: Who benefits from this?

Excellent post.

Why is there always a group of adult 'academics' selflessly pushing and pushing and pushing for the right of children to have sex younger and younger and younger? Why are they so invested in those children's current protections being dismantled? Because it isn't the children's 'rights' and opportunities they are thinking of.

Why is there a group of male people in burlesque apparently selflessly committed to introducing very young children to - well. Burlesque and male bodies and sexualised performances? What made them look at all the causes out there and go 'yes, we will design a show where we do the splits with bare legs and bum barely covered with bum pushed towards the faces of babies and toddlers because that will be so good for them as an experience .'

They might be kidding themselves that this is what they intended, but anyone with half a brain can see the motivations underneath. This is fantastically inappropriate, how many kids' shows actually involve picking up other people's kids ffs?

These parents with their children are demonstrating trust and vulnerability, they are enacting belief in innocence and goodness, they are providing validation and praise. It's past time naivety and enablement like this was sorted out.

I believe working mothers safeguard their colleagues instead of their children because the bond is broken, they bond to those they spend most of their time with.

This is THE most ridiculous and insulting comment I've read in a long time.

Yet every safeguarding failure inquiry says that staff safeguard the institution.

IT’s “GROOMING 101”. Gets the kids use to seeing it so they won’t react as much when they’re older. I guess you would sit there with your child then and just grin then?

I have had to become "that parent" at my DD's primary school. She is 6.

They have been using posters and resources that misrepresent the Equality Act, removing sex as a protected characteristic. The school argued back, including an email from the external provider (No Outsiders), stating that it it easier to teach gender to young children, rather than biological sex, and that one reason for this is is makes gender reassignment easier to teach when they are a little older. The author of resources has a known history in Queer Theory.

I've used Department for Education guidelines, the law and some other resources to explain why this is wrong.

The school have removed the posters.

The sting in the tail, is that I've been phoned and emailed by the school, to warn me off, and threated the police, if I defame the school.

As I had posted a short summary of my concerns on the year group WhatsApp group, when the school hadn't replied to my concerns.

Apparently, parents shouldn't be discussing things that concern them about the school on "social media". They are counting WhatsApp messages as social media.

I have two long long running threads in FWR, and have also set up a resource thread for parents who are concerned about the resources being used in their children's school.

Sorry should be directed to this person on page one. “Lcb123 · Yesterday 20:48
Well don’t go yourself then. It’s a free world. I think you need to get some perspective on what child abuse actually is”

"These parents with their children are demonstrating trust and vulnerability, they are enacting belief in innocence and goodness, they are providing validation and praise. It's past time naivety and enablement like this was sorted out".

Such a good point. It's the silencing of debate that's allowed these unthinking views to develop. As has been pointed out, if this was a group of men taking their babies to the local strip joint, not only would they be investigated for failing to safeguard their children but the venue would be closed immediately for enabling paedophilia / predators.

We need to discuss and work out why this is happening and how to stop it - even if it means confronting views that we don't agree with / find uncomfortable.

Safe school alliance are great.

Is your child's school staffed only by men out of interest?