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Upset a staff member in tesco.. feel bad now but was I wrong?

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SpringIsSpringing23 · 02/03/2023 07:33

Last night I popped into tesco. At the checkout, the young lad (can't have been more than 18) was looking at his phone, didn't speak to me, kept chewing his nails and sticking his fingers in his mouth.

When it came to pay he didn't tell me how much. I was getting irritated at this point and just stood there until he looked up and I said you've not told me how much (obviously I could see on the screen). I said "you're too busy playing on your phone, and it's not hygienic to be chewing your nails when you're going to be handling food". I didn't have a go but said it in a firm manner.

He went bright red, muttered sorry and didn't give any eye contact the rest of the transaction. I then realised he had tears running down his face. I said I'm sorry, is everything OK? He ignored me so as I left I explained to the security guard (nobody else around) what happened and he said he'd go talk to him.

I feel absolutely awful that I've upset somebody... but was I wrong to have said something to him?

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VWCVT6 · 03/03/2023 15:56

Moominmammacat · 03/03/2023 15:47

I did this in Habitat when the till man was picking his nose and merrily chewing away. Told him off, as one would a toddler, still feel guilty about it (but someone needed to tell him).

I would have probably thrown up all over him to be honest.

WalkingOnTheCracks · 03/03/2023 16:00

SpringIsSpringing23 · 03/03/2023 13:27

Fuck me. Over 700 replies and it made the daily mail. I'm amazed at how much response this has had. Whether you think I was right or wrong, I don't get why so much response.

This thread should have died the same day I posted it. I've actually hardly replied as it's bloody ridiculous. It's everyone else who has kept this going enough for the daily mail to pick it up.

I will absolutely not be saying anything to anybody in future.

...it was worth it to flush out the nutcase who thinks that two world wars were arranged with the sole intention of killing off the manly....

QuestionableMouse · 03/03/2023 16:03

PortiasBiscuit · 02/03/2023 07:40

He may have been stressed about something else, or he may just be a bad Tesco employee. You’ll never know, but calling him out on his behaviour may well make him think, take a look at himself and be better.
You may be the turning point in his whole life, in thirty years he’ll be on TV thanking the woman that called him out and made him pull his socks up.
Honestly try not overthink this, he was being a dick and you pointed it out. I cannot imagine Tesco actually allow them to use their phones on the till, you probably did him a favour.

Last time i had my phone on me at work, i was waiting for a call to see if my mum had survived her surgery.

Think something like this is more likely than him just being shit at his job especially if he was crying.

Topseyt123 · 03/03/2023 16:05

edenhills · 02/03/2023 07:40

I imagine something else was happening in his life and he wasn't having a good day. You made things worse.

This was my first thought too. It was fine to ask him to tell you how much as I find it can sometimes be difficult to see the till screen.

The rest of it was you laying into him unnecessarily though in my opinion. You don't know that he wasn't dealing with bad news from home or something.

Rhondaa · 03/03/2023 16:08

'Whether you think I was right or wrong, I don't get why so much response.'

Because many of us will have teens who will have come in from work upset at a busybody causing trouble at work, also most of us shop in supermarkets and couldn't give a rat's ass about the chat or finger nail biting at the till. Just have some perspective and stop bossying shop staff about.

Abhannmor · 03/03/2023 16:14

Not much middle ground here it seems. Either OP is a Victorian era snob or the cashier is a lazy moron who should be in the Army. Perhaps they met on a bad day ?

Must admit I was tickled by ' this wouldn't be allowed in Waitrose'. So what goes on in Waitrose I wonder. Perfumed gigolos dancing attendance on one's every whim no doubt.

singer15 · 03/03/2023 16:23

Someone should have taught him how to do the job properly. His manager should have said something, but since s/he didn't, it was only a matter of time until a customer did. Now he knows.

Not stating the total and staring at his phone was unprofessional, but if he rang everything up correctly, I probably wouldn't care. The nail-biting thing is gross. I don't want someone's saliva all over my purchases. I doubt I'd have said anything but I'd have been disgusted.

DaisyDaisyDaisyDaisyDaisyDaisy · 03/03/2023 16:56

@SpringIsSpringing23 unfortunately you don't get to dictate how many replies you get and how long a thread lasts. You posted in the first place. It lasts as long as it lasts. I'm glad it will make you think twice though before you start having a go at someone who appears to have been struggling and having a bit of a rubbish day.

ClaireEclair · 03/03/2023 17:46

I don’t think you said anything that would have made him cry. It sounds like he had other things going on and he was feeling emotional.

I worked in Tesco and was told off by an old man for not counting the change into his hand. He was so angry and it stayed with me. I didn’t count the change but I did make sure I told
people how much change they were getting back as I handed it to them. I didn’t cry though!

notthisagainforest · 03/03/2023 17:58

Rhondaa · 03/03/2023 16:08

'Whether you think I was right or wrong, I don't get why so much response.'

Because many of us will have teens who will have come in from work upset at a busybody causing trouble at work, also most of us shop in supermarkets and couldn't give a rat's ass about the chat or finger nail biting at the till. Just have some perspective and stop bossying shop staff about.

Exactly this. My daughter was 16 working when a woman told her she should smile more. It really upset her. Why are people such bitches. We had a death in our family and she still went into work and carried on. You never know what people are going through we need to remember that.

DrBlackbird · 03/03/2023 18:12

SpringIsSpringing23 · 02/03/2023 08:51

I had just driven 150 miles on 4 hours sleep with a horrendous cold.

Classic fundamental attribution error.

Arrocahar23 · 03/03/2023 18:18

Forgotthebins · 02/03/2023 17:40

You feel you are better than him and you let him know it.

That’s a stupid response. The OP was better than him because he was not doing his job and behaving in a customer-friendly way. How dare he?

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Arrocahar23 · 03/03/2023 18:35

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As are you in that response. The mods take a dim view of a personal attack on a fellow poster.

FiddleLeaf · 03/03/2023 18:36

Arrocahar23 · 03/03/2023 18:35

As are you in that response. The mods take a dim view of a personal attack on a fellow poster.

But her behaviour was mean and horrible.

BourbonBon · 03/03/2023 18:37

Arrocahar23 · 03/03/2023 18:35

As are you in that response. The mods take a dim view of a personal attack on a fellow poster.

Even if it’s the truth?

Arrocahar23 · 03/03/2023 18:37

FiddleLeaf · 03/03/2023 18:36

But her behaviour was mean and horrible.

It’s ok to describe the behaviour in that way.

FiddleLeaf · 03/03/2023 18:39

Arrocahar23 · 03/03/2023 18:18

That’s a stupid response. The OP was better than him because he was not doing his job and behaving in a customer-friendly way. How dare he?

Nah, she lost it when she kept going & she knows that hence the guilt.

FiddleLeaf · 03/03/2023 18:40

Arrocahar23 · 03/03/2023 18:37

It’s ok to describe the behaviour in that way.

Exactly. The PP said she was mean and horrible and she was.

A spade is a spade.

BourbonBon · 03/03/2023 18:42

Arrocahar23 · 03/03/2023 18:18

That’s a stupid response. The OP was better than him because he was not doing his job and behaving in a customer-friendly way. How dare he?

If she’d paid for her shit and left with her head held high that she was able to rise above it … you may have a point.

however, what she did instead was belittle a teenage lad to the point were he cried and then came boasting about it on the internet. So in this case, he is so much better than her and I hope he knows this.

glittereyelash · 03/03/2023 18:47

I wouldn't overthink it it's just one of those things. He was probably biting his nails as he was stressed about something else and you might have just hit a nerve. We've all hurt and been hurt unintentionally so don't be too hard on yourself. You'll probably remember this moment and learn from it ❤️

OliveBreadKalamata · 03/03/2023 19:00

YANBU. Unhygienic poor service is unhygienic poor service.

It was fine for you to comment as you did. It’s sad that he was obviously going through stuff and that just added to it. But you asked him if he was alright. It’s a shame but this is real life. He needs to learn not to stick his fingers in his mouth when serving people food no matter how bad he’s feeling, pretty quick. He could have been sick which then could put you at risk. You can still be sympathetic which you were.

VWCVT6 · 03/03/2023 20:24

OliveBreadKalamata · 03/03/2023 19:00

YANBU. Unhygienic poor service is unhygienic poor service.

It was fine for you to comment as you did. It’s sad that he was obviously going through stuff and that just added to it. But you asked him if he was alright. It’s a shame but this is real life. He needs to learn not to stick his fingers in his mouth when serving people food no matter how bad he’s feeling, pretty quick. He could have been sick which then could put you at risk. You can still be sympathetic which you were.

I would like to know what sticking fingers in mouth was as this is not normal behaviour from a stable human.

UWhatNow · 03/03/2023 21:20

notthisagainforest · 03/03/2023 17:58

Exactly this. My daughter was 16 working when a woman told her she should smile more. It really upset her. Why are people such bitches. We had a death in our family and she still went into work and carried on. You never know what people are going through we need to remember that.

Being told to smile is the worst. Both my dds have put up with this and worse from customers. But what the op did was nothing like that. You and others are projecting your DC’s bad experiences. This lad was being a gormless dick and the op rightfully called him out.

Maverickess · 03/03/2023 21:52

SpringIsSpringing23 · 03/03/2023 13:27

Fuck me. Over 700 replies and it made the daily mail. I'm amazed at how much response this has had. Whether you think I was right or wrong, I don't get why so much response.

This thread should have died the same day I posted it. I've actually hardly replied as it's bloody ridiculous. It's everyone else who has kept this going enough for the daily mail to pick it up.

I will absolutely not be saying anything to anybody in future.

Because people are absolutely obsessed with customer service at the moment and many actively looking for ways to be a victim of it being bad.
I don't even think it's about free stuff that often tbh, it's pretty easy to spot those ones, most of them aren't as clever as they think they are and you'll only get away with it once and in all likelihood they know then but just want you to go away and shut up because you're taking up time they could be serving customers that genuinely just want their stuff or to enjoy themselves and forcing their hand in reducing customer service to the other customers in the place. That's why you get free stuff half the time, not because you've hoodwinked them. It's a service to the other customers.
It seems to be more about the attention it gets and ranting on about 'shit customer service' and demanding the impossible or improbable and then going
"Ha! See! I knew that I'd be treated badly!" And if all else fails you can always accuse the staff of being rude like some trump card.

And from the other side as some have already said, there's those that have teens and young adult children in these jobs and have to see the effect that basically getting shouted at for some pocket money has on someone's mental health and self esteem.
I have stepped in more since covid when adults are having a go at younger members of staff because they think they can, men and women on both sides. It was rising before covid but it's so much worse now.

And people like me who have been around the block a fair bit and have noticed an increase in customer behaviour and are in all honesty sick of being treated like an enemy, and people deliberately trying to trip you up and catch you out and less willing to take the shit anymore. And employers that are starting to wake up to the fact that if they allow their staff to be bullied by customers then they don't have them long, so they're defended when they're in the right more often - just about everywhere you go now there's a sign up saying that abuse towards employees won't be tolerated - and some employers are actually backing that up with action.

Which upsets the balance of power and that damned saying "The customer is always right" because anyone knows that logically, not every customer can be right about everything, all the time, and it's misused anyway, it's used as a way to excuse treating service staff badly and not being held responsible for that.

So many have jumped on this bandwagon of 'poor' customer service and it's made out to be a traumatic event that in the majority of cases, it just isn't, this thread is a prime example - don't think OP was that bad tbh, I have experienced far worse (not that that makes it ok!) But then I don't think what the lad serving did was that bad either.
But if you had read some of the responses without the knowledge of what they were responding to, you could be forgiven for thinking something really bad had happened from both sides of it here, rather than what was basically a non event.