To think this round of teacher strikes have barely been noticed?

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I know it’s regional, but I can’t find a thread here, only a brief mention on the BBC and even the daily mail it is way down.

is this a bad or good sign?

I don’t support the strikes either. Poor timing.

Would you like a man to take a ruler to your skirt?

The news
LinkedIn (I counted 15 redundancy notices today from sectors within energy/marketing/IT)

www.statista.com/statistics/1172074/uk-monthly-redundancies/

10% isn’t massive in the current climate. It’s still a real term pay cut.

What pay rise have you had over the past 15 years?

This graph? It shows that the redundancy rate was lower in Dec 22 than it was in the months just preceding the pandemic.

Have you got something that shows your claimed mass redundancies in most sectors?

I just think the unions should be doing as much as possible for their £££ fees to strike a deal around a table

What do you think the government should be doing? I assume you don't think they should be announcing further pay cuts and coming to the table with nothing but waffle and no offers?

I don’t think there’s a whole lot of sympathy for teachers after school closures during lockdown, the incessant complaining about it and now strikes.

And yet there should be an awful lot of concern about the state of education and the lack of teachers.

10% is more than double our pay rises though and will fuel inflation. I’ve had fairly rubbish pay rises, probably less than the public sector as wages have stagnated for ages now.

That’s fine, sympathy doesn’t pay the bills, money does.

And schools didn't close during lockdown, as I’m sure you already know.

news.sky.com/story/inflation-busting-public-sector-pay-rises-risk-stoking-inflation-bank-of-england-governor-warns-12806640

Prices have raised by 69% whereas teachers wages have only increased by 45% in this time, so we are 24% worse off than we were a decade and a half ago.

Id urge other people to join a Union and campaign for better wage rises for themselves too, rather than trying to drag other professions down.

@CiderWithLizzie

Are you campaigning to reduce higher earners wages to help tackle inflation?

What we need is for inflation to fall, not unaffordable and unfunded pay rises, which will either result in higher taxes or more borrowing. A reduction in inflation will benefit everyone.

@CiderWithLizzie
Lol

The same bank of England governor who couldn't remember that he was paid nearly 600k a year?

Okay so inflation is 10-14% now, depending on which metric you use.

It’s to fall to 4% next year.

A teacher at the top of the pay scale earns just over £40k.

If teachers accept 5% this year, their salary would be £42k.

Inflation states they should be paid £44,000 to £45,600 this year to have the same standard of living as before.

Next year, they would need ANOTHER 4% on top of those “should be” figures.

Its not like the 4% replaces the 10-14% they should have had this year.

I think the fact that WFH is commoner now makes strikes less disruptive, and I do think people sort of “got used to” closures during COVID, making this feel less outstanding and more like “More of the same….”

I said on another thread that perhaps a more effective form of strike would be if teachers refused LONG TERM to do at least some of the stuff that’s making their jobs really hard to do. Parents would moan, but since British parents moan about schools nonstop anyway no matter what parents do….

I said on another thread that perhaps a more effective form of strike would be if teachers refused LONG TERM to do at least some of the stuff that’s making their jobs really hard to do.

Work to rule doesn't work when the rule is that you do as many hours as necessary to discharge your professional duties. That's in our contracts.

We did work to rule back in the Gove era, it made fuck all difference. The only things we could actually stop doing were stuff like running lunch clubs that a lot of teachers enjoy doing.

Even the Bank of England said that giving public sector workers a 5% pay rise next year presented a low risk for inflation.

The DfE recommended 3% despite this.

They just don't want to pay teachers a reasonable amount and it's becoming more and more obvious as the arguments against giving us a proper pay rise fall away and yet they persist in pissing around.

Sorry, not the Bank of England, the Treasury. And they are notoriously tight-fisted when it comes to the public sector.

From a Scottish perspective; kids would be significantly more impacted by a long term work to rule. It’s an escalation beyond strikes.

I have officially worked 0 hours this week so far (a mix of pro rata hours and strikes) so have earned £0 and I’ve worked around 40h since I left work on Thursday. And I’ve got about another 10 hours to do tomorrow, also being paid for 0 of them.

Yes, Scottish teachers have defined working hours so they could actually work to rule.

I always find it hilarious when people suggest this (to Scottish teachers) as the “better” option for kids and parents 😂

Sure thing, you are worried about the impact of missing around 1-2 ish days per month on your kids exams. I get that. You know what’ll have a massive impact? If nobody marks their exams.

My dc were in as normal today ( 2 different schools). 2 teachers were off striking and they spent the hour revising but otherwise normal lessons.

No impact at all really.

I'd also add that Scotland is a country not a region.