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Original poster

To think this round of teacher strikes have barely been noticed?

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Crunchymunchies · 28/02/2023 13:02

I know it’s regional, but I can’t find a thread here, only a brief mention on the BBC and even the daily mail it is way down.

is this a bad or good sign?

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roundcork · 28/02/2023 21:40

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Botw1 · 28/02/2023 21:40

@roundcork

I don't think they'll get much more

Springchicken75 · 28/02/2023 21:41

Briallen · 28/02/2023 21:38

The government are not funding the 5% though. They are expecting schools to fund it from their already small budgets. That means they have to make cuts elsewhere. Support staff, intervention groups, smaller ratios, resources - all going! This directly impacts the children. It’s also not a guaranteed job as someone unthread said. There’s no money!

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Well that is a matter of negotiation for headteachers, not teachers. No need to strike to reorganise funding or increase it.

Springchicken75 · 28/02/2023 21:41

Botw1 · 28/02/2023 21:40

@roundcork

I don't think they'll get much more

It’s totally unrealistic

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Crunchymunchies · 28/02/2023 21:41

Reading the thread on Scotsnet the teachers weren’t consulted, the union rejected the pay offer on their behalf.

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noblegiraffe · 28/02/2023 21:43

Springchicken75 · 28/02/2023 21:29

It’s a guaranteed job with great pensions and holidays. I can’t get worked up about it. Most of us have bigger fish to fry. Like feeding the dc and keeping the lights on.

If it's a guaranteed job with great pensions and holidays and there is a critical shortage of people willing to do it, you don't think that's a problem? Who will be teaching your DC next year?

Also, you do realise that those problems are also caused by our government? They're not separate issues but all part of the same problem.

If you are struggling to feed your DC, then perhaps it's because your mortgage rate has increased massively thanks to Liz Truss tanking the economy. Or perhaps it's because you should qualify for free school meals but don't because the government has refused to raise the threshold since 2017. Or perhaps it's because of food supply issues caused by Brexit. Keeping the lights on might have been easier if they hadn't stopped funding the gas storage units leading to their closure. Or if they'd done something different re windfall taxes and energy prices. And Brexit.

noblegiraffe · 28/02/2023 21:43

Springchicken75 · 28/02/2023 21:41

It’s totally unrealistic

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Why, given that the government suddenly has billions extra in unexpected income from taxes?

KievsOutTheOven · 28/02/2023 21:44

Plumbear2 · 28/02/2023 13:09

There was a very short announcement on local news. But it's the Northern half of the country, you can bet it will have alot more coverage when it's the southern half 🙄

The northern half of which country?

Botw1 · 28/02/2023 21:45

Can unions do that?

Botw1 · 28/02/2023 21:47

@Springchicken75

Not really.

According to the Ons the average private sector raise is expected to be 7.2

Springchicken75 · 28/02/2023 21:50

noblegiraffe · 28/02/2023 21:43

If it's a guaranteed job with great pensions and holidays and there is a critical shortage of people willing to do it, you don't think that's a problem? Who will be teaching your DC next year?

Also, you do realise that those problems are also caused by our government? They're not separate issues but all part of the same problem.

If you are struggling to feed your DC, then perhaps it's because your mortgage rate has increased massively thanks to Liz Truss tanking the economy. Or perhaps it's because you should qualify for free school meals but don't because the government has refused to raise the threshold since 2017. Or perhaps it's because of food supply issues caused by Brexit. Keeping the lights on might have been easier if they hadn't stopped funding the gas storage units leading to their closure. Or if they'd done something different re windfall taxes and energy prices. And Brexit.

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Your post sounds very political to me. There is much more to it.

Springchicken75 · 28/02/2023 21:51

noblegiraffe · 28/02/2023 21:43

Why, given that the government suddenly has billions extra in unexpected income from taxes?

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If rather they paid to keep the hospital lights on and staffed personally

KievsOutTheOven · 28/02/2023 21:52

Springchicken75 · 28/02/2023 21:50

Your post sounds very political to me. There is much more to it.

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Of course public sector pay is political. Almost all the shit that’s going on in this country is political.

noblegiraffe · 28/02/2023 21:53

Springchicken75 · 28/02/2023 21:50

Your post sounds very political to me. There is much more to it.

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My post about the government sounds political? [Confused] What did you expect a post about the government to sound like?

KievsOutTheOven · 28/02/2023 21:54

noblegiraffe · 28/02/2023 21:53

My post about the government sounds political? [Confused] What did you expect a post about the government to sound like?

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Keep politics out of our government!

JustFrustrated · 28/02/2023 21:54

Botw1 · 28/02/2023 21:47

@Springchicken75

Not really.

According to the Ons the average private sector raise is expected to be 7.2

Skewed by some random companies giving massive payrises.

In reality....that's not the case.

The reality is mass redundancies in most sectors.

A 1-4% rise at most for many. Including those in the energy sector.

noblegiraffe · 28/02/2023 21:54

Springchicken75 · 28/02/2023 21:51

If rather they paid to keep the hospital lights on and staffed personally

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Ah, another great achievement by this government. You'd hope that they'd be negotiating settlements with all the NHS strikers then....? Bad news for you.

noblegiraffe · 28/02/2023 21:55

The reality is mass redundancies in most sectors.

Link?

Botw1 · 28/02/2023 21:57

@JustFrustrated

'Skewed by some random companies giving massive payrises.'

Yeah that's generally how averages work

They'd have to be pretty massive and a lot of them to drag the average up by 3 to 6 %

cardibach · 28/02/2023 22:01

TiredandLate · 28/02/2023 18:15

Most parents affected already managed through the lockdown closures and multiple inset days every year. We're used to part time schooling.

You know inset days are holiday days, yes? That het were taken from teachers’ holidays, not term time…

BungleandGeorge · 28/02/2023 22:14

I think the reason it’s less impactful is that most parents had to do it for months on end during covid and are much better set up now. The odd day really doesn’t sound like a big deal. The Scottish strikes are probably having a much bigger impact.
the government really does have to step in to save its employees from the financial mess it’s made, it’s squeezed pay for so many years that we’re not talking about a low pay rise for just a year or two. Money paid to us lowly workers is generally spent on goods and services and is good for all, the problem is the rich stockpiling

Springchicken75 · 28/02/2023 22:14

I just don’t care any longer. Sorry. We have all been through too much already. Teachers are relatively well paid with extra long holidays, We are losing kids weekly, you are ultimately just punishing and destabilising them. It’s not great tbh. Teachers/ schools closing are the least of our problems.

CiderWithLizzie · 28/02/2023 22:19

My DH and I both work in the private sector but completely different areas. We both got 4.5%.

NowThatsWhatICall22 · 28/02/2023 22:20

Busybody2022 · 28/02/2023 19:05

I think it used to be a massive deal for schools to be shut. Now since covid and storm closure last year, it just isn't a big impact. A day of needing to make alternative arrangements isn't a huge challenge and parents worried about the learning know how to source stuff themselves online etc.

Except that it is still a huge challenge for many. But also, this isn’t about the parents arrangements- what about the children, particularly those approaching exam terms? It’s really difficult to have sympathy with the cause when it calls for more strikes. I just think the unions should be doing as much as possible for their £££ fees to strike a deal around a table, instead of encouraging and enabling more strikes which result in school closures. We’re all expected to say “oh I support the teachers” without grumbling. I very much support the teachers, but I can’t support ongoing strikes 🤷‍♀️

CiderWithLizzie · 28/02/2023 22:21

So TBH I don’t want others to get massive pay rises, which will fuel inflation and make me even worse off.