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Tedious performative under eaters

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SlimPig · 22/02/2023 10:30

The thread about the PIL's measly portions reminded me of this, and how iritating it is. I remember once at work they bought us all fish and chips on one friday afternoon. When it arrived the two other women started their bs as soon as they were handed their box - oohh the weight of that! I'll never eat all that! Hadn't even opened it and looked at it yet.

Then, once opened, both of them, oh my god, I'll never eat all that (measly takeaway cardboard box portion, not a massive, in paper, large portion) ooh dear, we won't need dinner, or breakfast tomorrow now will we! Don't think I can eat my peas too, I'm so stuffed. I'm going to need to go for two runs tomorrow now! On and on, through the whole meal.

I was starving and had to make a conscious effort to eat it slowly because they were fucking about and pushing it round the box and I didn't want to look a pig, I'm a fast eater anyway, but that meal was just so god awful! In the end I just ate it at my normal speed.

Why? Why do people do this? Why can't they just eat their food normally? Why does everything have to be justified and offset? Just strikes me as so sad that they couldn't just eat their food without a whole performance (infront of all the men in the office, only 3 women there, me and them) of how birdlike they normally eat 😥

OP posts:
ItchyBillco · 22/02/2023 13:37

eighteenthirteen1 · 22/02/2023 13:34

Another poster missing the point of the thread.

I haven’t missed the point at all. I was just joining in with my thoughts and experiences. 🙄

The OP doesn’t give a shit what people actually eat, so long as they don’t bang on about it. I get that.

The poster moaning that a woman quietly eating a little salad affected her is mental, though.

Shemovesshemoves21 · 22/02/2023 13:38

SlimPig · 22/02/2023 10:40

I also worked with someone once that only ate one of the tiny M&S side salad bowls for lunch (not the proper salad, the titchy ticthy one) and it was all she had all day. I was really young and thought I was eating too much and greedy - because she was older, glamourous (seeming to me at the time - going out to all the bars in London after work etc). This sort of thing can be so damaging, especially if a lot of people are doing it (90's heroin chic innit 🙄).

This, along with your OP, indicates to you having a real issue with your own weight/eating habits. The constant performance (assuming you've not exaggerated massively) is annoying, but it's quite clear you're resentful of how little/slowly others eat compared to yourself, and how they should monitor not just what they say but what they eat in order to make you feel better about your own insecurities.

Vohgue · 22/02/2023 13:41

My dad constantly commenting through my younger year on how much I ate and I think that's a big part of why I ended up with an ED. I don't eat much now however when I was staying back in my childhood home recently, and making a sandwich for DH, my dad said "geez that's enough for breakfast, lunch and dinner for you isn't it?" Smirking. It was so triggering - I hadn't realised it until then, what a big role he played in my ED. I also then realised why my MiL talking incessantly about what she eats constratsd to what "fat people" eat is so upsetting for me. I changed the subject last time and she managed to turn it back within minutes. She is obsessed with it.

bonzaitree · 22/02/2023 13:44

I lived with an anorexic flat mate. She used to say things to me like “more bread? You had a piece of toast yesterday!”

I didn’t mind particularly because I knew she was I’ll, had horrible issues and she obsessed about food 24/7.

So I think when people “perform” they’re just suffering from unhealthy relationship with food at a minimum.

gawditswindy · 22/02/2023 13:44

Harryisabollock · 22/02/2023 12:24

I wouldn't have liked to listen to twittering comments about how much food there is or how stuffed they'd feel either...but nor would I have wanted to sit near someone gobbling fish and chips like a pig at a trough..
Maybe eat your lunch somewhere else if it spoils your appetite.

* "someone gobbling fish and chips like a pig at a trough.*"

That's utterly horrible language, particularly on a thread where people have disclosed that they've had eating disorders. So someone eating a normal portion of food at lunchtime is to be compared to a pig? At a trough? You should be ashamed of describing a person on that way.

ItsCalledAConversation · 22/02/2023 13:47

Thepeopleversuswork · 22/02/2023 13:13

The bit the irritates me about this whole subject is the way it's so gendered.

I work in the kind of industry where women put quite a lot of thought and attention into their looks and grooming etc. In my office most of the women without fail will eat only salad for lunch and have weird appetite suppressing tricks such as licking Marmite from a knife instead of having a snack and other borderline eating disorder behaviour.

But the blokes are celebrated for their gourmandise. There's one man in the office in particular who is a huge foodie and eats constantly (and fair enough. But the double standards are bizarre. I'm openly mocked in the office for eating a Pret sandwich because its "huge" and "greasy-looking" (the implication being that I eat like a bloke), but this guy is constantly indulged and slapped on the back when he goes to buy himself a portion of chips mid-afternoon.

There are an awful lot of women in this country for whom the line between "healthy eating" and "disordered eating" is very thin indeed and who use it as a weird kind of status boost.

One of my worst food memories from office days is when I was working FT with a toddler at home and 6months pregnant, bought myself an M&S club sandwich and smsall packet of crisps for lunch and was told I was eating “like a man”. No bitch, I’m eating like a pregnant woman now off you fuck!

GloomyDarkness · 22/02/2023 13:48

I don’t have much family myself so Christmas, Easter etc are almost always spent with my IL’s - and I have constant, low level anxiety in the run up to events, that I’ll be judged on how much I’m eating.

DH used to sneak out and eat - I haven't stayed in years now and I find it easier to manage on our turf as it were.

FusionChefGeoff · 22/02/2023 13:52

From the other side:

They think about food every minute of every day. They grew up with a clear message that anything less than a perfect figure was failure, fat people are lazy and less than.

They can never enjoy a meal without an instant smack of guilt the minute it's finished. They wake up and instantly think about what they ate last night and were they 'good' yesterday and do they have to squeeze exercise into an already full day to work off what they see as excess and unnecessary calories.

They are permanently either hungry or full of shame if they did eat.

The only way they can justify eating a normal portion of such 'terrible' food is by making sure that everyone else knows they're not normally 'like that' for fear of being judged for their appetite or size which has been ingrained in them since childhood.

It's annoying, I know.

I try to keep my inner monologue secret as I can see how fucked up it is.

But give them a bit of a break as it's all directed at themselves, not you.

Hongkongsuey · 22/02/2023 13:52

Tbh, any takeaway I’ve ever had has been enormous. You’d have to be pretty greedy to eat it all-even if it comes on a box. Fish and chips is a really stodgy takeaway and makes you feel quite ill when you’ve eaten it. We’ve lost sight of normal portion sizes and now think that gigantic ones are normal. So I’m with your friends although wouldn’t make such a song and dance about it.

Windfalls777 · 22/02/2023 13:52

From what I understand, men like a woman that likes their food. How annoying of them.

Prettybutdumb · 22/02/2023 13:52

There’s an even more evil kind of people: the ‘are you going to eat all that?’ type. ‘The only thing you should have on that plate is…’ ‘You’re picking that? It’s full of carbs??’ I hate those people, too.

twitterexile · 22/02/2023 13:54

Favouritefruits · 22/02/2023 12:33

Two people in my exercise class yesterday, going on and on about eating half a pizza and how bad it was, I can smash a full pizza and have dessert!

A whole pizza (assuming it's the standard supermarket size) is a huge amount of food! I do think we have lost sight of what healthy/reasonable portion sizes look like.

GoldenCupidon · 22/02/2023 13:54

LuckySantangelo35 · 22/02/2023 13:09

@GoldenCupidon

”have once said I wouldn't need dinner when presented with honestly the world's biggest lunch, but I was brave and eventually soldiered through dinner (having not eaten all the lunch).”

why did you need to be brave and soldier through dinner though? If you’re not hungry, don’t eat! Or have an apple or a banana or whatever rather then making dinner

it doesn’t do anyone any harm to miss a meal from time to time

That was supposed to be a joke... Instead of overstuffing myself at lunch and then having a lettuce leaf for dinner I had two normally sized meals, doesn't make any odds nutritionally but it means that I was comfortable and full in the afternoon and the evening rather than feeling horrible in the afternoon and then starving later.

AppleDumplingWithCustard · 22/02/2023 13:54

learieonthewildmoor · 22/02/2023 11:12

I know a woman who performs having a dainty appetite. Go out to dinner and she’ll order the appetiser as her main and be absolutely stuffed, couldn’t possibly have dessert. It’s part of her performance of femininity. She also faints.
I’ve stopped going out to eat with her, it’s too annoying.

If she wasn’t dead I’d say you know my ex MIL! Performative wasn’t the word for it. She could never find anything she wanted on restaurant menus so ever the martyr would sit and watch the rest of us eat. Picked at tiny bits of food at mealtimes. However, she was prescribed temazepam to help her sleep and having taken her nightly dose an hour before bedtime, proceeded to cook herself a huge fry up every night as once she’d taken her sleeping tablet she apparently didn’t know she was doing it! 🙄

twitterexile · 22/02/2023 13:56

Fusion that sounds so hard. It's easier to slag people off than have an iota of understanding for some people though.

Tootsweets84 · 22/02/2023 13:56

IHopeYouStepOnALegPiece · 22/02/2023 11:17

I live in Denmark, we have just finished the season of a particular pastry (fastelavnsboller if you’re interested) and fucking Christ has there been a lot of incredible under eating competition from the expats (Danes just eat what they want and do it quietly)

“Oh I could never eat a whole one”
“Oh this will be my only one all season” “oh I’ll take this home and will have a little each day otherwise I won’t eat anything else”
“oh X over there had one yesterday AND one today, oh I could never”
”Oh Lego are you having one? But you just ate lunch!!”
“They are SO unhealthy, just a bite of one leaves me feeling SO bloated and needing a run!”
”I’ve just told DH I won’t have dinner because I’ve eaten an WHOLE one of these”

Shut up and eat the fucking pastry. Or don’t. No one cares

I lived in DK as a teen and don't remember fastelavnsboller at all! I must ask my stepmum about these. I do remember aebleskiver season though 😋.

I think the difference is that Danish people are just generally more active and eat more healthily than Brits. Every time I visit I'm always amazed at how slim most people are despite all those long lunches and dinner parties. It's a different culture. Don't see many kids riding a bike to school here, but nearly all of my friends rode a bike to school when I lived there (except me - I couldn't ride a bike! 😂)

OP those women do sound incredibly annoying. I personally hate anyone commenting negatively on what another person is eating either way. Especially when someone thinks what I'm eating is 'gross' - keep your opinions to yourself! I tend to eat smaller portions and used to get a lot of comments from others. What they didn't see was that I ate little and often and probably ate more than them in a 24 hour period. I just didn't like the feeling of being over full. I would never have sat there talking about how little I ate though. Generally I try to avoid eating in front of others because I can't stand the judgement.

Hebridean · 22/02/2023 13:56

I fucking hate it when people comment on other people's food. Its so rude and unnecessary. Sometimes I might want to eat a large portion, other times I might not want much. Neither needs commenting on but often people will. I've also come to realise I eat more slowly than most people. This gets commented on as well. I sometimes end up leaving food I'd have liked to eat because other people have finished and are now commenting on how slowly I eat and/or gawping at me. I don't want an audience.

Then there are the people who try to persuade you to eat certain things. I don't like garlic but you can pretty much guarantee someone will try to convince me to eat garlic bread if it's on the table. A simple "no thanks" won't suffice, they want a full explanation.

Rebel2 · 22/02/2023 13:57

Hongkongsuey · 22/02/2023 13:52

Tbh, any takeaway I’ve ever had has been enormous. You’d have to be pretty greedy to eat it all-even if it comes on a box. Fish and chips is a really stodgy takeaway and makes you feel quite ill when you’ve eaten it. We’ve lost sight of normal portion sizes and now think that gigantic ones are normal. So I’m with your friends although wouldn’t make such a song and dance about it.

Then don't eat it! Surely just say no thanks or "just a small chips" than eating it while whinging how huge it is then after about how sick you feel. It's not the fact of sizes or portions or how it makes you feel, it's the going on and on and on about it

I've never felt unwell after fish and chips, if I did then I wouldn't eat it or I would buy a small portion

Some days I say yes to a cake or grapes or a takeaway, some days I say no. Nobody cares which I pick because I don't say "oh no I had a takeaway, god the portions are huge, I'll get so fat, won't be able to eat for days..."

CantGetDecentNickname · 22/02/2023 13:57

LuckySantangelo35 · 22/02/2023 11:55

@SlimPig

to be fair op, a lot of people wouldn’t want dinner in the evening if they’d had fish and chips for lunch. It is a big lunch.
and also not everyone wants to wolf down their food as quickly as possibly.

Maybe not, but they have a choices - to decline the food, share it between them or to eat what they want from it and leave the rest. This is not the point of of the thread. The point was that they were going on and on about what little they ate in some weird competition and in doing so, making others around them who were quietly doing their own thing, feel bad. A sort of stealth way of fat shaming others who may not even be overweight.

GoldenCupidon · 22/02/2023 13:57

twitterexile · 22/02/2023 13:54

A whole pizza (assuming it's the standard supermarket size) is a huge amount of food! I do think we have lost sight of what healthy/reasonable portion sizes look like.

But a healthy/reasonable portion size depends on who you are, what you're doing and what else you've eaten doesn't it.

A whole pizza wouldn't necessarily be a lot if say you were a riding teacher say running around all day and you hadn't had time for lunch, or if you were a 6'6 man who goes to the gym a lot.

beastlyslumber · 22/02/2023 13:57

JackieDaws · 22/02/2023 12:44

I'd rather stay at a size 6 than be constantly shovelling down food. Besides it's more to spend on lovely clothes that fit properly and don't look like they're bursting at the seams.

What a horrible, shaming comment to make. People can eat more than you without "constantly shovelling down food." Shovelling down is such a dehumanising description of someone eating. Do you think people who eat more than you are less human? People larger than you can also wear lovely, well-fitted clothes. This comment is truly a reflection on who you are as a person, far more than it is anything to do with the women you are trying to shame.

BellePeppa · 22/02/2023 13:57

LuckySantangelo35 · 22/02/2023 13:02

@awaynboilyurheid

noone needs a cake after fish and chips regardless of their appetite

That’s not for you to say. If I want cake I’ll have it!

thirteenfiftyeight · 22/02/2023 13:58

My mil asked me if I had a weight problem at the table in an restaurant.

She can be awful sometimes

susiesuelou · 22/02/2023 13:58

I don't eat a lot, I rarely finish portions in restaurants and takeaways etc. I've lost track of the number of times in restaurants as waiting staff take my plate away, they've asked me in a concerned tone: "was everything ok with it?" because there's at least half left on my plate. And i've answered with "yes it was lovely thanks I just don't eat a lot". Or friends when eating out or sharing a takeaway: "is that all you're having? Are you sure?" etc ...

As a person with a small appetite you get constantly asked if you're sure you're not going to eat more and/ or if there's something wrong with your food. That gets tedious, too. So some people pre empt it by announcing "I won't be able to eat all this". I do sometimes, so I then won't have to field the tedious questions about why I've left half my plate.

WhileMyGuitarGentlyWeeps · 22/02/2023 13:58

FusionChefGeoff · 22/02/2023 13:52

From the other side:

They think about food every minute of every day. They grew up with a clear message that anything less than a perfect figure was failure, fat people are lazy and less than.

They can never enjoy a meal without an instant smack of guilt the minute it's finished. They wake up and instantly think about what they ate last night and were they 'good' yesterday and do they have to squeeze exercise into an already full day to work off what they see as excess and unnecessary calories.

They are permanently either hungry or full of shame if they did eat.

The only way they can justify eating a normal portion of such 'terrible' food is by making sure that everyone else knows they're not normally 'like that' for fear of being judged for their appetite or size which has been ingrained in them since childhood.

It's annoying, I know.

I try to keep my inner monologue secret as I can see how fucked up it is.

But give them a bit of a break as it's all directed at themselves, not you.

Yes you have a very valid point, and some people ARE like this (and cannot help it.)

However.... they have NO RIGHT to comment on what someone else is eating.

And SOMETIMES it is just people who are rude and obnoxious and think they have a right to comment on what someone is eating.

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