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Asking him to get rid of his dog after 7 years?

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Uktousa2022 · 20/02/2023 16:00

I am moving to the USA to be with my fiance. He has a pitbull/lab who has previously bit a little yorkie, the yorkie did start the fight, however unfortunately the yorkie died because the pitbull punctured a lung after 1 bite.

I have 2 cavalier dogs. I have extreme anxiety about taking my 2 dogs over there to live with this dog that has previously bit before. My fiancé says it was a total one off, he has since been neutered and is older now, and it was the other dogs fault. I have met the dog and it does pretty much sleep all day.

I just don't know if I can live my life anxious always watching my dogs around this dog - It is a small house - I really don't know how to get over this as we are both refusing to rehome our dogs. He does have family nearby that he could probably give him too, I would be going out to the US with just my dogs.

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LifeExperience · 20/02/2023 19:57

I would not have other dogs or a baby around a pitbull. Period.

Ameadowwalk · 20/02/2023 19:57

Uktousa2022 · 20/02/2023 17:49

My brothers wedding in September is how we met. My brother lives over there. Not online..

September 2022? Four months ago? Surely not.

Anyway, listen to your intuition here and stop trying to make excuses for this guy. He cannot look after his dog properly. How is he going to look after children, and then if you separate, you will be stuck over there as you won’t be able to leave with your children.

just tell your boss you have changed your mind about going. She will probably heave a sigh of relief for you.

CaptainMyCaptain · 20/02/2023 19:58

WilsonMilson · 20/02/2023 19:41

Everyone, can we just forget the dog issue. The op is about to do one of the stupidest things I’ve ever read on here, and God knows I’ve read some batshit stuff.

OP, please for the love of God do not give up your life to go to the USA to live with some random you’ve known since September, and with whom you have created an entirely fictitious and are desperate to have kids with.

You are on the brink of making a massive mistake and need to wake up very quickly and get all the grips possible. Jeez.

Absolutely this. I can't comprehend how the OP is planning to give everything up to move half way round the world to live with someone she barely knows. And that's before you bring the dog issues into it.

Uktousa2022 · 20/02/2023 19:59

This reply has been deleted

The OP has privacy concerns and so we've agreed to take this down.

I guess he has moved into a whole new house for me to come over, moved all his stuff out his mums, and obviously is willing to support me financially (pay all bills) until i pick my job back up again

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Solonge · 20/02/2023 19:59

Long haul flights can be dangerous for any animals and especially animals that are not particularly young or those who have conditions that can cause problems. My daughter flew her cat from Dubai to UK from UK to Saudi and from Saudi to UK...on the last flight...these were over four years he had a massive epileptic fit and didnt live long after, the vet said he was quite sure the flight was the cause.

Spiderboy · 20/02/2023 20:00

Just don’t go OP, sounds like a disaster.

I wouldn’t be able to trust his dog around my dogs and certainly not around kids.

He sounds neglectful leaving his dog in a crate all day and I wouldn’t want to raise a child with him.

Cavaliers are known for breathing issues, I wouldn’t drag them on a plane personally.

I also wouldn’t have kids alongside a dog who resource guards - that is 100% a risk to a child.

3 dogs and a potential baby sounds like horrific.

ItchyBillco · 20/02/2023 20:00

OP he’s a stranger with a pit mbull that’s already killed a dog.

Why oh why are you you giving up everything to move to the States to have children ‘soon’??

I’m not judging you or mocking you, I’m imploring you to think again.

Ameadowwalk · 20/02/2023 20:01

Uktousa2022 · 20/02/2023 19:52

I have seen him for 2 weeks a time, about 4 diff occasions, twice he has come here

So eight weeks?
And you are giving up your job and life here on the basis of eight weeks for someone who cannot even look after a dog properly?
I too hope this is a wind-up.

Goldpaw · 20/02/2023 20:01

Uktousa2022 · 20/02/2023 16:14

The dog actually doesnt have much of a life - it is usually in a crate all day while he is at work - then at night just sleeps on the sofa with him and in bed. My dogs, spend all day with me working from home, have multiple walks a day, come to dinner breakfast etc with me, holidays.

Why do you want to be with someone who cares so little about his dog that it doesn't have much of a life?

Goldpaw · 20/02/2023 20:04

My brothers wedding in September is how we met.

This sounds like a disaster waiting to happen irrespective of the dog situation.

TheNoodlesIncident · 20/02/2023 20:06

Irrespective of whether it's fair to ask him to give up his dog, is he the right sort of person for you?

He doesn't see that your UK friends and family have value to you, because they don't to him - hence his saying you'll have his friends and family instead. He's a macho man/alpha male who doesn't accept criticism, who has a dog of the type favoured by gang members for protection (and potentially use as a weapon, even if he doesn't intend that), he's not very bright and thinks his dog will somehow sense that a baby is HIS baby, a dog that he has kept crated most of the time because he doesn't know how to train it out of weeing indoors...

This dog may well not live much longer but what's to stop him getting another one? It's also not just your dogs that would be a concern, or a hypothetical baby - an adult woman was killed by a pit bull in the USA, wasn't she? I would not want to live with a dog like that. It would be a constant worry that the continuous crating had damaged the dog's mental well being and tbf, it's got form already, having fatally attacked a little dog.

I'm sorry OP but this venture looks like a massive gamble, potentially with disastrous consequences. I can't see how the risks aren't outweighing the positives for you.

KettrickenSmiled · 20/02/2023 20:10

Uktousa2022 · 20/02/2023 19:52

I have seen him for 2 weeks a time, about 4 diff occasions, twice he has come here

Great stuff. 8 weeks with an "alpha male" dog abusing man who wants you to give up family, friends, home. job, country & your beloved dogs, so you can live entirely on his terms while he gets you knocked up, is a spectacular catch.
You must feel very proud to have snared him.

JesusMaryAndJosephAndTheWeeDon · 20/02/2023 20:12

Solonge · 20/02/2023 19:59

Long haul flights can be dangerous for any animals and especially animals that are not particularly young or those who have conditions that can cause problems. My daughter flew her cat from Dubai to UK from UK to Saudi and from Saudi to UK...on the last flight...these were over four years he had a massive epileptic fit and didnt live long after, the vet said he was quite sure the flight was the cause.

Similar happened to a friend. Pet flown USA to UK following a marriage breakdown and died less than a week after the flight.

pastaandpesto · 20/02/2023 20:12

Does your current boss actually have experience of overseeing international transfers of employees? "Waiting for your work permit to come through" is very vague. There are a wide range of different visas, which may or may not grant the right to work. There will be different eligibility, timescales and costs associated with them. For example, I was on an L2 visa and had to wait until I was in the US to apply for an EAD to be able to work, which took six months.

What kind of visa are you looking at? If it is a K-1 it only lasts three months and doesn't grant the right to work. And you have to marry within 90 days.

SignOnTheWindow · 20/02/2023 20:13

CousinKrispy · 20/02/2023 17:12

If it's too much to think of backing out of the relationship now, at least have a think about your Plan B if it doesn't go well.

See if you can leave your dogs in safety with a family member for a few months.

Keep an emergency fund that will be enough for plane tickets back to the UK (and emergency accommodation if you need it) and do not touch the money for any other purpose.

Have some friends or family who could put you up temporarily if you needed to return to the UK on short notice.

Do you have any other friends in the US, would you have anywhere to go temporarily if things didn't work out? Or would you be completely isolated?

good luck OP. I know it is hard when you are swept up in the excitement of a relationship, and maybe the other person is pressuring you or you just don't want to hurt them. But this is a huge step.

This is really sensible advice, OP - give it some serious consideration!

KettrickenSmiled · 20/02/2023 20:15

Uktousa2022 · 20/02/2023 19:55

I mean i get the judgement, its on every other comment, im just trying to focus on the question i actually asked. In all fairness I have known couples to be together months before getting married and lasting longer than couples that knew each other 7 years.... also it has worked out for my bro who actually only met his fiance once! I love my fiance and we have spent a fair bit of time together, face time every single morning and night, and he has come here to the UK to propose

Oh well then. A PROPOSAL makes all the problems go away, sure.
No way you'll be caught out on the other side of the world & unable to return unless you;re prepared to abandon the kids you plan on popping out for this geezer.

If you were genuinely a dog lover you'd have dropped this guy for the way he treats his own dog. But ... PROPOSAL, yay!!!! Love's young dream innit.

KettrickenSmiled · 20/02/2023 20:16

Uktousa2022 · 20/02/2023 19:59

I guess he has moved into a whole new house for me to come over, moved all his stuff out his mums, and obviously is willing to support me financially (pay all bills) until i pick my job back up again

It just gets better & better. He was living with mummy til he met you, & is still working for daddy.

Mum2jenny · 20/02/2023 20:17

Please stay in the UK, the USA seems a very bad move to live with a chap who has an uncontrollable dog. Just don’t!

Fancysauce · 20/02/2023 20:18

KettrickenSmiled · 20/02/2023 20:10

Great stuff. 8 weeks with an "alpha male" dog abusing man who wants you to give up family, friends, home. job, country & your beloved dogs, so you can live entirely on his terms while he gets you knocked up, is a spectacular catch.
You must feel very proud to have snared him.

This about sums it up. Can't you see the red flags here op?

You've known him for a few weeks, all told. What is the desperate risk to hitch yourself to him and give up EVERYTHING and become completely reliant on someone you hardly know on another continent?

As for your brother meeting his fiance once... He's only been married a few weeks. Don't get too ahead of yourself about the longevity of his relationship.

pastaandpesto · 20/02/2023 20:18

DH did an intra-company transfer to the US. The process took nearly a year from planning to us flying out. Relocating an employee internationally is a big investment - the visa process cost the company £££ and involved jumping through a lot of hoops. It is absolutely nothing like transferring from one UK office to another. Are you sure your boss understands this?

Cocobutt · 20/02/2023 20:20

I hope he chooses the dog

Of course he will.

You wouldn’t choose someone you’ve only known 4 months over a dog you’ve had for 7 years.

This is someone who has got engaged after less than 4 months, who wants to start having kids soon, has told her he’ll financially support her and they don’t even live together yet - there’s so many red flags.
Most people would at least move on together for a couple of months before even thinking about getting engaged or kids.

He’s a fantasist and OP is naive.

OP can ask him to get rid of the dog and he’ll say no.

Or he’ll say yes but have no intention of doing it and then she’ll get there and be forced to give up her dogs.

RedDogBlueDog · 20/02/2023 20:20

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The OP has privacy concerns and so we've agreed to take this down.

Cocobutt · 20/02/2023 20:22

I want to know how old you both are too as you seem to be avoiding that question.

ItchyBillco · 20/02/2023 20:24

This reply has been deleted

The OP has privacy concerns and so we've agreed to take this down.

He’s 27, the OP is 30. It’s on one of her other identical threads.

Uktousa2022 · 20/02/2023 20:26

Fancysauce · 20/02/2023 20:18

This about sums it up. Can't you see the red flags here op?

You've known him for a few weeks, all told. What is the desperate risk to hitch yourself to him and give up EVERYTHING and become completely reliant on someone you hardly know on another continent?

As for your brother meeting his fiance once... He's only been married a few weeks. Don't get too ahead of yourself about the longevity of his relationship.

My brother has legally been married 4+ years covid restrictions meant they had there big wedding last year.

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