Skinny privellege

[Annabella91]

Why is there shops full of clothes for women who are skinnt but nothing bigger i hate going clothes literally can never find anything in a size 16 it's all size 6 and 8 is the fat back in the 90s discrimination trend coming in again?? Shouldn't need to skinny to look nice??

Because Im interested in how it works and how its being sold, whats wrong with that?

Because you seem horrified!

Indeed.
I thought “skinny privilege” was the supposed privilege of not being judged for what you eat.

Seems OP just disproved that theory 😂

"zillions" - an indeterminately large number

I’ll say it again.

Clothes sizing pre 2006 was based on post war sizing. That’s why it was smaller.

However was no ‘standard’ size 12 etc. Each individual shop has their own set of measurements which reflect their target market. This is true now and was the same 40 years ago.

I’d love to know where people are finding these ‘charts’ as the only reliable standardised source is BSI and they cost a fortune, and are copyrighted so not freely available on Google.

The change came in 2006, but Mand S size 12 is very different to River Iskand size 12.

AND, for further info, all manufactured clothes are made with ‘ease’ in, to accommodate the different sizes within a size 12/14/etc.

This explains it a bit

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ease_(sewing).

But all the charts and arguments in the world make no difference. The key things are:

Accurate anthropological charts are not in the public domain.
Each shop has their own definition of a size measurement depending on their target
market.
The only change in measurements hapoened in 2006
Clorhes are made with ease to accommodate a range of sizes within set measurements.

Haha agreed with you my little lady likes to give me the odd milk shower but id still like to dress nicely I'm more than just a mum lol.

If obesity could be fixed by 'eat less, move more', we'd have cleared it up long ago.

The problem isn’t that eating less and moving more doesn’t help with weight loss - because it does - but that people often find it difficult to change their habits and consistently follow a healthy diet and exercise regime.
Fair enough, most people will probably agree that losing weight isn’t easy. For many, food is not just nutrition, it’s also comfort.
That doesn’t mean that lowering one’s calorie intake, eating healthily and exercising regularly won’t make any difference though.

I didn't say anything about anyone else diet only my own experiences I didn't assume slim people only eat salad to stay slim jeez 🤣

What are you actually talking about now?

That’s entirely a body metabolism thing. I have a friend who is a similar weight to me but she eats far less than I do and for the past two years we have maintained very similar weights. Her body metabolism is just slower than mine. She’s tried eating more in the morning when her metabolism is higher, and not eating at all after six at night. Whereas I’m eating pretty much what I feel like when I feel like it, and don’t have any set meantime’s per se.

But it’s still a calories in < calories out thing, and we still control both ends of that equation. The only thing we do not control is the rate at which our body burns calories, and as such we have to watch our weight to gauge the second part of the equation.

There is no skinny 'privilege' the term privilege is only appropriate for fixed characteristics that we have through an accident of birth. Male privilege, white privilege, even pretty privilege. While some people cannot control whether they are slim or larger, by far the majority of people are slim because of choices they make. They are not 'privileged', they diet and/or excercise to achieve their body shape.
You will always get people to whom this doesn't apply, but very very few of us are born with the 'privilege' of being slim.

That is an excellent point and really, why diet culture is so toxic (and makes billions in profits) because if it was just that simple, it would work, right?

I remember being taken to Slimming World age 14. still had some puppy fat but victim of my mum and aunties own self hatred towards fatness and lifelong (and yet to be achieved) goal of thinness.

When I lost weight, I was rewarded with a big bar of chocolate.

It has taken me YEARS to undo diet culture and disordered eating. I was full of self hatred at my perfectly fine body.

Ironically the thinnest I ever was, I was drinking daily and eating utter shit.

I'm replying to a comment from another poster lol.

The muslin cloth

Those times when DD brings up her milk all over you, or coughs and spits it all over you. They’re great ‘cos they are more shocked that you at what just happened. I miss that.

@bellac11 That's an amazing weight loss! Well done 🤗 Keep going, and don't fret over the sizes on the labels. (When you've reached your target weight, you can splurge at M&S and luxuriate in the tiny size they claim you are now 😉)

I was a size 14-16 before pregnancy i put on a lot of weight my daughter was 9lb 2oz i didn't really have an appetite while pregnant due to morning sickness and heartburn now size 16 tops and 18 jeans 16 leggings.

I am a size 8 top- 10 bottom, I have two teen daughters one a size 4 (she’s disabled, gastrostomy fed and has muscle wastage before anyone says that’s a privilege ffs!) other daughter a size 14, I would say the range of clothes available for my size 14 daughter is much wider and more fashionable, than it is for my size 4 daughter. Also really not liking that people think skinny is a privilege. I’m not skinny I have a strong muscular frame, and am 5”8 the amount of comments I receive when eating, particularly whilst at work or out and about is horrible. Comments on my portion size if I have birthday cake that’s been brought in, if I bring treats in for the office, it’s non stop, and I have never heard anyone comment on what other larger colleagues are eating ever!!

Yes Ive got my eye on M+S, they've always come up mega big

Im just fascinated with this concept of the changing sizes rather than fretting but I long suspected that I was well over a true size 30 or more.

We are content. Short of a Type 2 diagnosis of shattered kneecaps, I don’t see either of us having the motivation to change our habits

I think this statement sums up the problem. The thinking that it won’t happen and if it does then you can ago something about it.

You can’t believe the pain I am in without any dramatic diagnosis. Friends and people I have met over the years who have been post menopausal all say/said the same thing.

Getting old is painful. The more weight you are carrying the more painful it is.

The issue is that by the time you realise that losing weight will ease your pain. Your bodies metabolism has slowed so much that your calorie intake to lose 1-2lb per week is below 900calories per day.

@Annabella91 do you like jumpsuits / dungarees? New Look online have some really nice ones in at the moment which look nice on top of white t shirts

www.newlook.com/uk/womens/clothing/playsuits-jumpsuits/c/uk-womens-clothing-playsuits-jumpsuits

Congrats on the baby x

I usually post old sizing, but I see that others have done. I get my sizing from my Mother's vintage dress patterns. Across Butterick, burda, Macalls, the sizing was the same. Which was two sizes down from now.

I was trying to say that the same person eating exactly the same calories each day can either lose weight, stay the same or put on weight depending on eating or not eating a particular food within those calories.

Not about comparing 2 different people on the same calories.

Vintage would suggest post war era as l said.

However, those patterns which may have identical measurements would be aimed at a similar audience. Were they ‘Misses’patterns which were aimed at young women? Even pattern houses had different measurements for different age groups.

The M&S click and collect service works really well for me. I look online then order the sizes/colours I'm interested in to be delivered to the nearest store, pay by credit card

Everything will be waiting for me when I go it, try everything in, return anything g I don't need on the spot for a credit back to that card.

I'm sure other shops will do the same, including Gap and Next.

If you think about it, you will see how much stock shops would need to carry, to keep stocks of all sizes and colour ways all the time.