Skinny privellege

[Annabella91]

Why is there shops full of clothes for women who are skinnt but nothing bigger i hate going clothes literally can never find anything in a size 16 it's all size 6 and 8 is the fat back in the 90s discrimination trend coming in again?? Shouldn't need to skinny to look nice??

I was considering that it hinders people who can't access the medical care they need due to their BMI, even if their weight isn't an issue. Not to mention all of those people trying to fit a scale that was never meant to apply to them anyway.

The key thing is that it's not a measure of health, especially in isolation.

'Being overweight is not a health risk'. Are you serious?! I get the point that some body fat can have protective effects but being overweight is a compounding factor in all sorts of health issues.

@YourApplePie The 'obesity crisis' isn't a simple fix of eat less, move more.

Yes it is.
It’s very basic maths.
And I am most definitely not a thin girl.

No-one is eating cream buns thinking this is good for them. No-on is on their second Zinger burger thinking they are eating a normal portion. No one buys their lunch by the bucket.

No one thinks driving their car to the corner shop is healthier than walking it.

But we are all willing to lie and justify what we do and pretend that ‘society’ or ‘modern living’ or ‘my genetics’ did it.

The food industry spend billions a year on studies to prove that crap food doesn’t make people fat, simple so that they can create confusion and doubt about very basic cause and effect that we have known since the Middle Ages.

40% of the research budge comes from big pharma precisely because if we don’t create enough I’ll people they don’t have customers for their products.

Yes, if calories going in are greater than calories expended you absolutely do get fat. If calories going in are less that calories expended, you absolutely do lose weight. That is why starvation is the rarest cause of death among fat people.

Let’s stop gaslighting about the causes of obesity. Be honest with people and tell the truth. It might help save lives.

Size 10 was always 32” bust, 22” waist and 34” hips

10” difference between bust and waist and 12” difference between waist and hips.

BMI should be split into different ethnicities really because while the average White northern European people might not (might not) suffer too much risk at overweight levels, there is a problem for people from the Indian subcontinent and African Caribbean ethnicities where only being a small amount overweight significantly increases their risk of diabetes and heart disease.

If you look at the NHS website, it is different by race.

I think what PP was pointing out is that there is a fundamental difference between BMI and ‘body weight’. Muscle is substantially denser than body fat, and two 16st girls can be the exact same weight but be substantially different shapes and in very different states of health. She’s talking about muscle mass not the volume of fat being carried by a person.

Excuse me don't tell me what to do I feel shit about not being able to get anything nice to wear 6 weeks after giving birth Don't need to be told to diet starve etc.

And you assume I'm lazy eat everything in sight etc you don't know me to even say that.

Is the advice ever 'diet and starve' or 'eat less move more'?

You're clearly not a size 16 or above then!!!!! 🙄🤦🏼‍♀️

Absolutely untrue, there's loads & loads of shops that only go up to size 14. Sometimes 16 but they're always sold out first!

Yes, you're right!
So the 38" waist would have been a size 26.
And the only clothes you could get in that size looked like floral duvet covers!
These are better times for us fatties.

Looking nice 6 weeks after giving birth is mostly about draping a pretty muslin or tea towel over your shoulder.

I'm a size 16, 5ft 10 and the only thing I struggle with is tops
(Feel free to recommend some!)
Big boobs, small waist, can only wear V neck or I look like tits on a stick, and need longer length as the boobs/height take up the length

Mostly shop at M&S, Dorothy Perkins, JD williams

I get it all believe people aren't happy until your living on salad leaves and water 🤣

BMI should be split into different ethnicities really

It is. On the NHS BMI calculator, the ranges are common for everybody, but the written advice changes depending on ethnicity and other factors.

If you go to Asian countries, Singapore for example, the healthy range is narrower at between 18.5 and 22.9.

I get it all believe people aren't happy until your living on salad leaves and water 🤣

You don’t need to live on salad leaves and water to stay slim.

Unless those girls are 6 foot 7 they are both overweight. Of course one might be less unhealthy than the other or one might be part of that tiny, tiny number of outliers where BMI isn't a useful tool.

For the vast majority of people BMI is a useful and quick tool. It has a very big range which takes into account many different factors.

Well that is very helpful. I try to steer clear of looking at it for obvious reasons!!!

What a wanky thing to say. You are being ridiculous.

I agree with calories in and calories out as a basic tool but I will say that I have found, not just me but also friends who have a certain trigger food that is kryptonite where dieting is concerned.

For me I can stick to the calories and with in those calories I can eat 2 slice of bread and I will lose weight

However sticking to the same calories if I eat 3 slices of bread I won’t lose any weight.
If I eat 4 slices each day within the same calories I will put on weight.

Friend who is quite slim loves a whiskey at the end of the day. Large tumbler filled with ice and a small whiskey is her night time treat. But even sticking to calories she found she was actually putting on weight.
She changed to red wine and the weight fell off.
Went back to whiskey and the pounds went back on.

Stick to the calories but find which food it is that is making losing weight harder
As a tip it is usually the one that you really like.

Wow so Ive just lost 3 stone. My current waist is 44 inches. Im wearing a size 26 but am pulling out my 24s and 22s

So what am I actually, about a size 30?

Good god.

‘Overweight’ is such a naff term, because both height and weight vary, and it doesn’t take into account muscle mass. It’s a broad brush generalisation that is blatant misrepresentation of the differences in people who weigh over some dictated norm.

That is why I prefer to refer to myself as ‘fat’. It is an honest depiction of my body shape, and I prefer honesty when I discuss things with my doctor and friends. I don’t need the medical establishment or those around me to pander to delusions I do not have, or treat me like I am some fragile little girl who may be offended by having the blatantly obvious pointed out to me.

Pretending doesn’t help anyone.

@Annabella91 At the very least, if you were not carrying excessive weight before pregnancy, you should not find it too difficult to lose weight. I was a size 16 short before DD, with the odd size 18 thrown in there. I game up my veggie diet during pregnancy and did not return to my old diet and lifestyle choices after giving birth.

I am not saying you should do anything specific, and with hindsight I would have changed my diet after I stopped breastfeeding.

I am merely pointing out the absurdity to some on here that believe shops should design clothes specifically for them regardless of the losses it would incur.

Every single larger size clothing brand has failed simply because we do not buy cloths even when they are specifically designed by larger women for larger women. If we are not willing to support clothing stores, we have no right to expect privileged treatment.

Why does it matter?

Its just a number. Nothing changed before or after you found that out.