Skinny privellege

[Annabella91]

Why is there shops full of clothes for women who are skinnt but nothing bigger i hate going clothes literally can never find anything in a size 16 it's all size 6 and 8 is the fat back in the 90s discrimination trend coming in again?? Shouldn't need to skinny to look nice??

They've gone up by two sizes since the 1980s. Chart in inches.

This thread is a mess.

Holocaust?

Starving Africans?

WELP.

I'm not an expert on it, it doesn't keep me awake at night. But a quick Google suggests it was only ever 50% accurate, doesn't account for all the changes in lifestyle in the last 200 years (can't get middle-aged spread if you die in your mid 30s) and never accounted for women and non-white people.

It seems to hinder more people than it helps.

Hate speech for saying the fact of people don't stick to a healthy diet and go back to overeating their weight will go back up?
Really?!

You need to read the thread then you will realise what this is about. It's certainly not what you have said.

So you were unwell- how does that magically become 'most people'

UK sizes must've stayed 'standard' until at least 2005, thinking about it. I was still buying & wearing size 12 clothes which, by today's charts, would be size 8.

I'd say most underweight adults are underweight because they are unwell. Some, just slightly underweight it may be their build.

It's an arbitrary measure and has its limitations, of course. It's not a measure of health generally, it's a weight benchmark and therefore still deemed to be useful in the round.

How does it hinder people? They feel so stigmatised by their high BMI that they can't lose weight? Is this the 'you can be fat and healthy' debate?

I don't think shouting energy in v energy out is the message key to solving the obesity crisis, but it is how weightloss is ultimately achieved.

The problem is that we as a nation underestimate how much we are consuming due to the unfulfilling calorie dense foods that are cheap and easy. Starbucks is a great example. We go for a coffee and think nothing of it, but a pumpkin spiced mocha chocca whatever can have the same calorie content as a full meal. If you have a slice of millionaire shortbread with it, you're pretty much halfway through that days calorie allowance without really being full. Likewise, an americano served black is zero, thats the sort of choice slimmer people tend to make.

I'm not saying that making that choice every time is how people should live their lives, but just have that knowledge of a rough calorie budget and try to live within that. If you struggle to make those choices subconsciously and are not prepared to give your consumption a second thought, well you wont lose weight.

I don't want to see those who wont make that commitment bullied and given a hard time, but to to call those who take the hard decisions and use their will power privileged is insulting.

In the UK in 2023 I mean

So a size 20 on that chart has a waist of 39 inches

Do you mean that a waist of 39 inches would originally have been a size 24?

BMI is a good starting point. If you are particularly muscly as in a rugby player or body builder BMI might not be good for you. But its small adjustments. You're not a healthy weight at BMI of 30 because you are big boned.

Is this the 'you can be fat and healthy' debate?

Blimey, not this now 😬 You can be fat & healthy. In women especially, body fat has quite a few health benefits. Being significantly obese threatens health.

Since I'm one of those (ex) fitness freaks who was labelled obese despite relatively low body fat, I'm aware BMI is an imperfect measure but, if you're one of the exceptions, you'll know. For the rest of us, the overweight section of the chart is not a health risk.

There is a great Instagram account aimed at helping people with this, especially those who suffer with binge eating. It shows you just how many calories/fat/protein are in your so called 'healthy choice' and gives you a more filling alternative that you are more likely to stick with long term, or better options if you are going to binge to try and keep a lid on it.
Diets like Slimming World completely distort peoples ideas of what a healthy balanced diet looks like.

From reading the thread it’s clear which size is discriminated against and is never in stock.

It is the size you are.

' Skinny Privilege ' 🙄
Get a grip

Erm I'm your age and shop in M and S for basics and workwear!

Old sizes in inches:
10: 32-24-34
12: 34-26-36
14: 36-28-38
16: 38-30-40

So, yes, a 38 inch waist would have been a 24.

😂

Does anyone know what a size 10 was in 2010's and what that size is today?

I don’t think it has changed. I’m not a 10 but I have clothes from back then that still fit, and the labels say the same size I am now.

Thats interesting

And that chart is from the 80s, was it even smaller in the 50s and 60s?

Many zillions? Gosh that's more than I realised

It is the size you are.

Exactly!