Boris Johnson wants a 2nd bash at being PM. We wouldn't. Would we?

[newnamethanks]

Today BJ is stirring up the DUP to oppose Sunak's N Ireland proposals, whatever they may be. Surely there can't be a second chance for the idiot responsible for our current mess? There aren't enough stupid people in our country to let him in again I hope. Will he unseat Sunak?

In the interests of factual accuracy I would like to point out that 2 years ago in February 2021 the polls showed the Tories and Labour very close together.
I have a feeling @Emotionalstorm you are perhaps misremembering two years ago.

I just wish that man would STFU and leave us all alone. He's a big mouth, a bully, a show off and a con artist.

If Brexit is done and dusted why are the DUP not happy. Johnson’s deal was worse than the May deal that Johnson and the ERG rejected.

The Tories have wrecked the country as well as Women's rights. We are an unstable, uninvestable mess because of their chaos, corruption and incompetence.

Voting Conservative at the next election is a sure fire way of continuing our decline as the rest of the world will give us a wide berth in terms of international trade and investment.

I am a Seer!

Pay talks just announced for RCN/Govt.....

Penny final dropped for Sunak...

@newnamethanks Sunak wants to sign over N.Ireland laws to the EU - they are part of the UK, they should be governed by our laws not another country who have their own rules and regulations. What is the mess Boris has put us in? It was Truss who f**ked us - everything Boris said he was going to do he did: Brexit, first one to help Ukraine, and provided for some people in furlough, which a lot of people took the piss out of. He probably got covid wrong but he could only go by what the scientists were informing him at the time.

As for his partying - everyone was partying, including people at my work place who were moaning about him lying, and that slimy weasel Kiel Starmer who agrees with whatever is popular opinion (other words got no b0**ocks)

The alternative is a border between NI and ROI as most countries have or the status quo which treats NI as a part of the EU ?

What you want that?

Boris is really a remainer... he never got Brexit Done, its still a mess, with loads to sort out on trade/science/education... list is endless.

Poland was the first to help Ukraine, Bojo dived in because he saw an opportunity, he d have backed Russia otherwise & now even Germany gives more military aid.. we've used up all of ours.

Parties? you may have been partying but no one i knew was, my DD wasn't, she was looking after vulnerable people, whilst wearing non existence ppe, thanks to your buffoon hero Bojo and his tory pals that didn't stock up on PPE and ran down stocks built up over 15 years....

I really hope not. Where's Sunak going anyway? Why would Boris think he's in with a chance - Sunaks doing a much less shit job of things than he did. Not that I would vote for Sunak, or any Tory, but he's at least a sensible and hard working person. And he's presentable and isn't as thick as mince.

@Mummysgogetter I take it you do not find it problematic that Boris broke the law while Prime Minister? Would it be acceptable for him to break any law he choose, because well other people steal as well, other people murder too, or is it only specific laws that he is permitted to break?

One wonders why the law was introduced if so soon afterwards it was perfectly acceptable for the person who introduced the law to break it.

Putting a border between NI and ROI breaks the Good Friday agreement, which is illegal and will probably kickstart the IRA again; neither option is a good one. It should be up to NI to decide which option they go with. But they are part of UK not EU.

If Boris was still MP he would be sorting out the remaining issues with Brexit, there are 1000s laws to sort out following Brexit - Rome wasn’t built in a day?

Nato stepped in first with the Ukraine war and 25% of our troops are on the polish border to protect Poland and Europe.

don’t know where you live but the amount of parties happening in pubs (lock-ins) and student digs around here was phenomenal. PPE? How much PPE does a small country need - we don’t stock PPE because people only usually need what they need - so they obviously there was going to be a delay whilst they were manufacturing more.

I do get your point, but let’s not forget he was with people he worked with all day - so he had already mixed with these people.

@Mummysgogetter you're right. He was magnificent and that's why HIS OWN PARTY kicked him out. Fashion reality in your own mind however you choose but dont expect the rest of the world to keep on swallowing it. 'None so blind as they that won't see' as my mother would have said.

@Mummysgogetter NI cannot decide what they want, thats the problem.... DUP on one side, SF on the other... both democratically elected.

So did NATO, Boris or Poland help Ukraine first? Does it matter?

You may not be aware but the UK has kept up stock piles of PPE for many years, i think Blair re evaluated and built up a substantial buffer of PPE, with it being replaced as use by dates expired.. Austerity came along and the Tories stopped renewing it.
This was highlighted in 2016 but was ignored... Hancock under Boris, wasted billions on PPE contracts but did make a few Tories extremely wealthy.

No, in the first Lockdown, people obeyed the law, CV was seen as pretty scary, yes people didn't obey the law as much in the other LD's but they weren't the ones telling us all to do so... Hypocrisy!!!

I don't.

Boris is still an MP. If he wanted any part of solving the problem he created, he could do it. But he's not bothered He's never been bothered. He's only bothered about Boris.🤷‍♀️

When Liz Truss took over from him there was an initial feeling of relief in many that an adult would be in charge of completing the Tories' plan for Brexit. As well as driving the economy off a cliff, she made obvious the lack of any such plan.😱

Six whole years after the vote to Leave.🫣

@Mummysgogetter I would be grateful if you would answer this question so we can further our understanding.

Would it be acceptable for Boris to break any law he chooses in your opinion?

You and rather a lot of people it would seem.

www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/prediction_main.html

Of course not but going to a meeting/informal garden party with people he was working with all day in the overall picture is it really bad? Not in my opinion not but I realise I’m in the minority, but I’m entitled to my opinion.

@jgw1 - amazing website, thank you. Not sure on 308 majority but by dog if that is even half right the Conservatives are finished for a decade and more.

Of course, ONE garden meeting and a few beers... ... but Downing street had weekly indoor and outdoor parties, inc on the night of Prince Phillips funeral.

Bojo may not have gone to all of them but he was the boss and the buck stops with him.

The point is, NHS workers didn't go to the staff canteen and party after their 12 hour shift did they, they'd all been mixing.

and neither should have BoJo.. leadership is about example.

If it wasn't bad why did Boris make it illegal?

Is sharing netflixs accounts with your friends not really bad either? Doesn't really harm anyone does it, and sometimes one watches together with ones friends other times friends watch separately in the own homes. That's alright isn't it?

They could deal with don't knows differently which would paint a bit of a different picture. What one doesn't know is how likely those who say they will vote for a particular party are to vote. I suspect that Labour voters might be quite highly motivated at the next General Election.

Should also remember with Bojo, was the lying...
i think if he'd owned up and come clean, he might still be PM but he lied and kept lying until even his own party had enough of him.

@jgw1 - very likely. But reasonable to say that Labour will overturn what was a solid majority for Boris Johnson.

I still find Johnson's whole story mad. He had it all in political terms and threw it away. He spent his time sending in real crackpots to attack those institutions that he needed, absolutely needed, to deliver his manifesto. You need friends in Westminster and not just in your own party but everywhere. And he failed utterly to deliver on any key domestic policy. When someone writes a book about his government and how it failed, that will be key.

Alexandra2001
Poland was the first to help Ukraine, Bojo dived in because he saw an opportunity, he d have backed Russia otherwise

Nonsense - why would he back Russia?

The UK was the first country in Europe to send military aid to Ukraine, sending thousands of NLAW anti-tank missiles early in 2022.

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/tanks-military-aid-uk-ukraine-b2266154.html

Poland's former Minister of Defence, former Foreign Minister and MEP - Question Time Feb 2022;

"Credit where credit is due."
"Boris' decision to send anti-tank weapons to Ukraine was brave and timely."
"His decision to send British troops to Poland was also good."
"Hearing him in the last few days on Ukraine, I wish we had him on the European Council arguing for proper sanctions."

www.express.co.uk/news/world/1571804/BBC-Question-Time-Poland-MEP-Ukraine-Russia-crisis-war-invasion-Boris-Johnson-EU-latest-vn