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To give up on heels?

232 replies

Mimmi78 · 17/02/2023 17:41

I have had a life long love affair with heels, tall, shiny, colours, kittens, courts and sky highs.
Roll forward to working from home since 2020 and now spend one day a week in my Central London office.
I have recently found a whole day in them excruciating and painful. just can't wear heels all day anymore! I have been lugging them about in a bag and do the train to office in trainers and any other walking!
Aibu - just keep lugging them about like the rest of us!
Yanbu- Join the revolution and here are some fabulous feel good but not horrid alternatives!

OP posts:
Fairyliz · 19/02/2023 07:18

Nimbostratus100 · 19/02/2023 06:48

what I find surprising, is that there are still some women NOT outraged by the concept of heels

Blimey hope you teach your students to judge people on what they do rather than what they look like.
Your reaction seems very extreme to immediately scorn someone based on an item of clothing. Imagine the reaction if you did the same based on someone’s colour or size.

Nimbostratus100 · 19/02/2023 07:19

jemimapuddlepluck · 19/02/2023 06:59

I doubt they gave a shit 😊i certainly could not give a single fuck whether you respect women choosing to wear what they want. God, other people's insecurities blow my mind.
I love a heel but mainly to look at these days. I have some lovely pairs that I cannot part with even though I don't wear them any more.
Look for some nice chelsea boots and some nice ballet flats for summer op. I wear Doc Martins mainly these days, then straight into sandal/flip flops in summer 😁

I am not insecure, at all, in fact quite the opposite, very confident to express my opinion that no one should be wearing heels in a school, as it is the worst of all possible examples to the girls in front of you

Very happy and confident to express this, and frequently have

Dont know where you get the feeling I am insecure at all!

Nimbostratus100 · 19/02/2023 07:20

Fairyliz · 19/02/2023 07:18

Blimey hope you teach your students to judge people on what they do rather than what they look like.
Your reaction seems very extreme to immediately scorn someone based on an item of clothing. Imagine the reaction if you did the same based on someone’s colour or size.

its not ok to consider heels just an "item of clothing" - they disable the wearer. Clothing doesnt do that

BlackbeardsToast · 19/02/2023 07:21

It's all a bit 'don't wear what they want you to wear, wear what I want you to wear' if you ask me.

I've never really worn heels because I'm pretty tall already and they just made me feel like a giant.

Am kinda glad flats are in as that means there is now so much choice.

HarlanPepper · 19/02/2023 07:24

"the rest of us"? I haven't worn heels since about 2003.

Nimbostratus100 · 19/02/2023 07:25

Busybutbored · 19/02/2023 07:00

I love heels, and I find it very sad that you would hate someone for wearing heels. I can run in my stilettos probably faster than you can in yiir flats, so I'm certainly not disabled. Did you have some sort of child hood incident with a heeled shoe or something to make you feel this way? That is really not a normal reaction. How do you feel about a low cut top or a g string bikini?

of course you cant run faster than I can in flats!

There is no comparison with low cut tops, or G string bikinis, - these dont disable the wearer

ThePaperTrail · 19/02/2023 07:26

Nimbostratus100 · 19/02/2023 06:46

an item of clothing designed to disable women for the viewing pleasure of men!

nothing "unhinged" about hating the very idea

and having no respect at all for any women who go along with it

I can run through in my head all the heel wearing managers in all the places I have ever worked. No respect at all for any of them! Thankfully, even when I started work 30 years ago, most women didnt wear them in my line of work ( education) so actually it was very few.

How any woman manager in a school with girls in, thinks they can parade around in heels and then expect any female student to listen to them about anything I just cant imagine. The very worst possible role model. Certainly these days, teenage girls realise that.

In my current school, no women wear heels. In my previous school, there was one, but she has since had a daughter, and changed her mind about whether heels are acceptable in the modern world. In previous schools, one or two women managers did, I still remember them with scorn

Remind me to dig out a pair of heels to wear.

Sounds like the women who wore heels were senior enough to be your manager.

Wishawisha · 19/02/2023 07:28

I find the idea that it’s feminism and shoes which made us less physically capable are being consigned to history implausible..

I mean yes - it’s mad when you think about how women have been wearing shoes that damage feet and make us slower and less able to walk distances for fashion … BUT what about super long nails which seem more and more in fashion these days? (Not that I ever actually see these in my life). It’s the same thing really - harder to type, pick up things, wipe after the loo (!), cook, use tools, etc etc etc.

In answer to the heels question. A LONG time a go I felt I should wear heels to work but I feel like that changes more like ten years a go. I’d keep a pair under the desk for important meetings but lived in flats 90% of the time at work even, and 100% of the time at home.
Nowadays I keep one or two pairs for earring with a dress for functions that require it… so incredibly rare. I’d go to the pub or a bar in trainers. Still I do feel I need them to wear with a black tie dress or a cocktail dress - fortunately for my feet this happens once a year or so.

Nimbostratus100 · 19/02/2023 07:28

jays · 19/02/2023 06:55

Really sad to see such judgement and hate from women to other women for their fashion choices. No one is forcing anyone to wear heels and I can’t imagine not taking another woman seriously because of her choice of shoe.

Heels are a "fashion choice" like footbinding was a "fashion choice"

It isnt a "fashion choice" if it disables the wearer, both short and long term

The "sad" thing is that anyone thinks wearing an item of clothing that disables a woman for the viewing pleasure of men can be normalised to the extent that it can be considered nothing more than a "fashion choice" and in fact one that became so normalised that some work places in the past felt they could insist on it

eurochick · 19/02/2023 07:30

BitOutOfPractice · 19/02/2023 01:43

I too was an inveterate heel wearer (bite me @Nimbostratus100 😆) but have stopped since Covid. I’ve just lost the knack. It does make me sad because I loved them. But now I simply embrace the beautiful flat and trainers.

Same. My feet got soft during covid and I just can't wear them now. They look dated anyway.

wheresmymojo · 19/02/2023 07:35

I'm the same OP.

I mainly wear flats now and have some beautiful suede loafers and such.

I do still wear heels sometimes to 'elevate a look' but stick to nothing more than a 1-2 inch kitten heel or block / western heel on boots (both of which are 'on trend' at the moment).

Nimbostratus100 · 19/02/2023 07:35

wineandsun · 18/02/2023 23:54

I wore heels to a wedding last year and my feet hurt for a week after. Covid has changed how we dress

exactly, wear them once, in pain for a week, wear them habitually, many women endure years of pain.

This is not ok, to be held up as a "fashion choice" or something women need to look smart, or professional.

Emmamoo89 · 19/02/2023 07:35

Yanbu

Wishawisha · 19/02/2023 07:36

Nimbostratus100 · 19/02/2023 06:48

what I find surprising, is that there are still some women NOT outraged by the concept of heels

This is what I think about when I think about

an item of clothing designed to disable women for the viewing pleasure of men!

So honestly this is why I don’t think there has been any fundamental societal shift.

To give up on heels?
wheresmymojo · 19/02/2023 07:39

For those saying heels are 'outdated' you're a little bit behind.

They were 'out' but kitten heels, especially slingbacks and block/western heels are in.

Its just taking a little time to filter through to the high street but if you look at any retailer - Zara, H&M, etc you'll find these at the mo.

Nimbostratus100 · 19/02/2023 07:39

Wishawisha · 19/02/2023 07:36

This is what I think about when I think about

an item of clothing designed to disable women for the viewing pleasure of men!

So honestly this is why I don’t think there has been any fundamental societal shift.

yes, I do get your point with the nails, but there is a big difference, and that is, however bad it looks with the nails on, she can take them off tomorrow, and her hands wont be damaged.

I agree, the nails do look very silly, and I get annoyed being asked to do things for a colleague at work who cant do normal things for herself

Nimbostratus100 · 19/02/2023 07:40

( not that my colleagues nails are anything like this! but apparently they are fragile and expensive)

AnxiousPixie · 19/02/2023 07:43

I wear what is comfy, I have some great chunky heeled boots and some great flats and trainers. The key is they are comfy. I do think the stiletto court shoe look has fallen out of fashion but I would say in my place of work we have about 50/50 heel wearers and flats, no stilettos though! I too find it sad there is so much judgement for people's clothing choice. 😥

wheresmymojo · 19/02/2023 07:47

I really don't think very long nails like that are for men.

Men don't like nails that long.

It's about self-expression. Whether we 'get it' or not is irrelevant.

And when I wear (my 2 inch) heels it's also about self-expression for me. I'm happily married so don't give one shiny shit about what random men I may encounter or work colleagues I'm not remotely attracted to think about my outfit.

And my husband doesn't care about heels either.

For me it's about aesthetics. In the same way I love interior design. And it's about aesthetics to please me...not anyone else.

Busybutbored · 19/02/2023 07:57

Nimbostratus100 · 19/02/2023 07:28

Heels are a "fashion choice" like footbinding was a "fashion choice"

It isnt a "fashion choice" if it disables the wearer, both short and long term

The "sad" thing is that anyone thinks wearing an item of clothing that disables a woman for the viewing pleasure of men can be normalised to the extent that it can be considered nothing more than a "fashion choice" and in fact one that became so normalised that some work places in the past felt they could insist on it

I'm a heterosexual female and I like seeing them on females, I think they can be beautiful, stop being so close minded and judgemental. And sexist! Me liking them has nothing to do with the viewing pleasure of men, you sound unhinged.

jays · 19/02/2023 08:01

Nimbostratus100 · 19/02/2023 07:28

Heels are a "fashion choice" like footbinding was a "fashion choice"

It isnt a "fashion choice" if it disables the wearer, both short and long term

The "sad" thing is that anyone thinks wearing an item of clothing that disables a woman for the viewing pleasure of men can be normalised to the extent that it can be considered nothing more than a "fashion choice" and in fact one that became so normalised that some work places in the past felt they could insist on it

But they are a fashion choice. I certainly don’t feel disabled by heels, I don’t live in them but I enjoy them with the right outfit and for the right occasion. That is my choice. There is no need to wear a heel to look attractive to the opposite sex, certainly not in this day and age. I don’t why you’ve put sad in inverted commas if you actually do find it sad. What I’m referring to in ky post is the ‘only old women, only stupid women’ only unfashionable women, only pathetic women’ wear heels these days. That is being said here to make women who enjoy wearing heels feel shame. I don’t support that in any way and never will. Regardless of the history behind heels, now, heels are a choice. It disgusts me that women go out of their way to shame other women for something as ridiculous as choosing to wear a heeled shoe.

jemimapuddlepluck · 19/02/2023 08:06

jays · 19/02/2023 08:01

But they are a fashion choice. I certainly don’t feel disabled by heels, I don’t live in them but I enjoy them with the right outfit and for the right occasion. That is my choice. There is no need to wear a heel to look attractive to the opposite sex, certainly not in this day and age. I don’t why you’ve put sad in inverted commas if you actually do find it sad. What I’m referring to in ky post is the ‘only old women, only stupid women’ only unfashionable women, only pathetic women’ wear heels these days. That is being said here to make women who enjoy wearing heels feel shame. I don’t support that in any way and never will. Regardless of the history behind heels, now, heels are a choice. It disgusts me that women go out of their way to shame other women for something as ridiculous as choosing to wear a heeled shoe.

This is when you know it is coming from a place of insecurity. They have to throw in derogatory comments about women to try and make their point. It is always insecurity at play when the insults come out.

jays · 19/02/2023 08:14

jemimapuddlepluck · 19/02/2023 08:06

This is when you know it is coming from a place of insecurity. They have to throw in derogatory comments about women to try and make their point. It is always insecurity at play when the insults come out.

That’s exactly how I feel about it, thank you. I find it really horrible to see that happening.

FordCreek · 19/02/2023 08:18

Aibu - just keep lugging them about like the rest of us!

where have you been? I don’t know anyone who lugs heels around anymore. It’s not the 90s!

Nimbostratus100 · 19/02/2023 08:20

just as an side, it would be interesting to know ( but impossible to calculate) exactly how much current and past wearing of heels is going to cost the NHS this year. Into the millions, certainly

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