What did she want people to do?

[SkivingSnackboxes]

Recently went to spectate at a sporting event and we got on the tram to get there. It was rammed, we expected it to be rammed. It's a busy event.

The tram was standing room only, and it was busy Ie sardines.

This pregnant woman was standing in the middle of the aisle she wouldn't move further down so there was a huge gap behind her. She didn't look that pregnant tbh, she kept shouting. im pregnant, I need space, you all need to back off, I'm pregnant I need a seat im pregnant I can't be touched
The only people sat down were kids and old people and the families didn't offer her a seat. The guard came down and told her she needed to move down into the gap or get off. She decided to get off and then asked if the trams were going to be busy all day?

She genuinely wanted random strangers to not go to the rugby because she enforced a halo of 'im pregnant and no one can be near me'

Surely if you're that precious about being pregnant you'd get a taxi?

Children are much more vulnerable than adults while standing on public transport as they are weaker than adults and the handholds usually are to high for them anyway. You do not want a child fly through a wagon because of an emergency break.
Jesus wept. Children should always give up their seat for an elderly disabled or pregnant lady. They can sit on a parents lap, hold a parents hand. Yes it is unpleasant for them but it is good manners and a good lesson for them. Didn't do me any harm. Thankfully I have raised children that automatically get up when they see someone in more need of a seat then them. No wonder we are raising a generation of snowflakes if this is the message we are sending them

You know full well if the pregnant woman posted here telling the story exactly as OP has she would be asked 'are you getting any help for your anxiety?' 🤣

Absolutely. If the kids were small, they could have sat on their parents. If they're too big for that, they could have stood.

Why didn't she just quietly say to someone 'I'm pregnant and not feeling well, would you mind if I sat down?' rather than blocking the aisle and yelling it? Also why didn't she back down the aisle into the space if people were getting too close? She wasn't wearing a mask or going on about covid so that argument doesn't stack up. Sounds like an entitled pregnant woman to me.

To me, the title of this thread should be "Not one single person offers pregnant woman their seat on crowded tram". That's surely the discussion point? I got caught out on the tube a couple of times by mid week football matches when I was pregnant. I was offered seats instantly by the fans sitting down. How times have changed....

What an unpleasant thread. Bashing a stressed out pregnant woman. Shame on you @SkivingSnackboxes I assume you are in bed now, seeing as you posted at an ungodly hour! I hope this woman is OK now.

Well, I think attitude has a lot to do with it. People are generally more inclined to help people who are being reasonable. Pregnancy isn't an illness, you don't get on a crowded tram and expect to be treated like a deity.

Pretty disturbing this person wasn't offered a seat even though she was asking, pregnant or not. Feeling dad about humanity 😒

Sounds like she was trying to guilt people into giving her a seat. Being pregnant doesn't give her the excuse to behave like that.

No I'm in work

and then when told she had to put up with it by a guard and move into an even more cramped spot

not what OP says at all. It seemed to me that she was asked to move up so the crowd wasn't bunched up.

Personally? if I'd been there in a seat i'd have given it to her, inwardly i'd have thought she was being a bit dramatic but you never know what is going on in people's lives/minds.

What on earth do OP's sleeping and waking times have to do with anything?

One of the kids should have given up their seat. I never get why parents think their kids are entitled to a seat over someone old or disabled or pregnant! Have them sit on your knee if they’re too little too.

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'Pregnancy is a lifestyle choice' was a ridiculous statement and you've articulated this splendidly.

There was no need to mock ERF, particularly considering so many parents don’t realise the importance of doing it. Your second point was not at all related to your first and completely unnecessary.

I’m not mocking anything. The quite obvious link is that in some situations mumsnet is far more concerned about children’s safety than others.

Its bizarre that someone who clearly cares a lot about child safety in cars is unable to see really obvious dangers on public transport. Children’s safety should be prioritised and not only when it doesn’t inconvenience adults.

Pregnancy isn't an illness, you don't get on a crowded tram and expect to be treated like a deity.

No but you can expect to be offered a seat FFS.

Simply, be rich.

I'm not rich and even I can afford the occasional taxi. 🙄 Are we just assuming she's dirt poor for the purpose of the thread or something?

She shouldn’t need to have to guilt people. Priority seats are literally for pregnant people, along with those with disabilities who might find it more difficult to stand.

Why are people acting like this isn’t a thing?

There are signs everywhere on public transport stating ‘priority seating’ ‘please offer your seat to those who need it’ along with an image of a pregnant woman.

I agree.

I've given my seat to pregant women before.

Perhaps she has difficulty in carrying a baby to term and was anxious. Perhaps she was just a snowflake. Who knows.

But if she was pregnant it is shocking that no-one offered her a seat, or even hauled one of their kids to their feet to offer her a seat.

You’re suggesting she gets a taxi instead of public transport: are we pretending that’s affordable for every trip for nine months of pregnancy for anyone except the rich? Public transport is for the public, which includes pregnant women – there are even priority seats for them, so they don’t have to take taxis instead.

If I was on that tram, I would have asked generally if someone could get up for her or asked for a priority seat to be made available for her.

It's a shame you didn't help her, OP.

Well, if she does it regularly, she's obviously noticed before that it's busy and unpleasant.

I don't think it's unreasonable to expect people to make accommodations for pregnancy. I would always offer a pregnant woman a seat. I'm now pregnant myself. I commute by train and most of the time I do not need a seat, but I still find people offer. I have had to ask once when I was feeling really light headed, which was a bit awkward as I picked on someone who just completely ignored me, and I had to appeal to the rest of the carriage, but someone else did stand up for me. If she has even minor complications, it is completely reasonable for her to want a seat on a busy tram so she won't get jostled.

when i was young we were told to give upour seats for any adult -we either sat on o9r parents laps or held their hand