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What did she want people to do?

576 replies

SkivingSnackboxes · 16/02/2023 05:35

Recently went to spectate at a sporting event and we got on the tram to get there. It was rammed, we expected it to be rammed. It's a busy event.

The tram was standing room only, and it was busy Ie sardines.

This pregnant woman was standing in the middle of the aisle she wouldn't move further down so there was a huge gap behind her. She didn't look that pregnant tbh, she kept shouting. im pregnant, I need space, you all need to back off, I'm pregnant I need a seat im pregnant I can't be touched
The only people sat down were kids and old people and the families didn't offer her a seat. The guard came down and told her she needed to move down into the gap or get off. She decided to get off and then asked if the trams were going to be busy all day?

She genuinely wanted random strangers to not go to the rugby because she enforced a halo of 'im pregnant and no one can be near me'

Surely if you're that precious about being pregnant you'd get a taxi?

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Thatboymum · 17/02/2023 20:36

Ifnothat82 · 17/02/2023 15:42

@Andthatstheend

you have “never been on public transport”? and that is your “only downfall”

you would “laugh” at any “mug” that gave up their seat for a pregnant woman

It’s been an education reading your posts. That’s for sure

I assume this is for me but no I’ve never used public transport I was driven everywhere I needed to go until I was 18 and could drive myself and as an adult now the thought of like a bus or a train terrifies me it’s not something I’d ever want to experience crammed into a small space with strangers and germs and weird people , No thanks

fitzwilliamdarcy · 17/02/2023 22:18

DZbornak · 17/02/2023 15:44

@fitzwilliamdarcy I'm so sorry that you went through all of that, I hope you are as ok as possible now. And I completely agree with all of your points.

Thank you, that’s really kind. I’m doing OK now - will be in the menopause for 25 years but at least I don’t have periods anymore? 😅

ConcordeOoter · 18/02/2023 02:39

Thatboymum · 17/02/2023 20:36

I assume this is for me but no I’ve never used public transport I was driven everywhere I needed to go until I was 18 and could drive myself and as an adult now the thought of like a bus or a train terrifies me it’s not something I’d ever want to experience crammed into a small space with strangers and germs and weird people , No thanks

I can see why you're judgmental about people being precious about their space, now. It all makes perfect sense. 🙂

Mississippi6 · 18/02/2023 03:56

Thatboymum · 17/02/2023 20:36

I assume this is for me but no I’ve never used public transport I was driven everywhere I needed to go until I was 18 and could drive myself and as an adult now the thought of like a bus or a train terrifies me it’s not something I’d ever want to experience crammed into a small space with strangers and germs and weird people , No thanks

I came from a well-off family and they‘ve never used public transport either. I totally understand, they are all germaphobes and terrified of public transport. I must have been adopted 🤷‍♀️

PoseyFlump · 18/02/2023 06:16

@Thatboymum

I wouldn’t have offered her a seat I’d have offered her some advice that she’s only pregnant not disabled and isn’t the first or last woman either

as an adult now the thought of like a bus or a train terrifies me it’s not something I’d ever want to experience crammed into a small space with strangers

How do you know the woman on the train didn't also feel like this? You're coming across as a hypocrite. IMO you like the attention 'controversial' posts get you 🙄

Ifnothat82 · 18/02/2023 09:06

@Thatboymum

so let’s be clear

You have never ever travelled on public transport
You have never been abroad
You admit to having difficulties with people and relationships
You are happy that you don’t have colleagues because you WFH
You would “laugh” at the “mug” who would give up a seat for a pregnant woman
and you are “terrified” at the idea of public transport

A very clear picture is emerging of you

and it ain’t pretty!

LuckySantangelo35 · 18/02/2023 09:56

@SkivingSnackboxes

kids don’t need to sit down

one of the kids sitting down should have got up or been prompted to get up by a parent to give her a seat

LuckySantangelo35 · 18/02/2023 09:57

@Thatboymum

if you’re that terrified of public transport you really cannot criticise this pregnant woman can you?!

LuckySantangelo35 · 18/02/2023 10:05

Dominoeffecter · 17/02/2023 18:44

I’d be taken aback if a child offered me a seat because I’m 40ish 🤭

@Dominoeffecter

Well it would be more out of respect than risk of being infirm wouldn’t it
I think it’s a good thing
kids can stand

Dominoeffecter · 18/02/2023 10:39

LuckySantangelo35 · 18/02/2023 10:05

@Dominoeffecter

Well it would be more out of respect than risk of being infirm wouldn’t it
I think it’s a good thing
kids can stand

Regardless, I’d still be taken aback.

SelkieDreaming · 18/02/2023 17:40

Perhaps she was having an anxiety attack to some degree. Perhaps she couldn't afford to get a taxi. As for not looking very pregnant... some people don't always show as much as others and be quite far along.

EstherGreenwood19 · 18/02/2023 17:44

Give the woman a break. We’ve all had mental days and people do ram up against each other in rush hour and it’s gross even when you’re not mad and pregnant.

EstherGreenwood19 · 18/02/2023 17:47

PoseyFlump · 17/02/2023 19:23

This thread's not really about a pregnant woman having a bad day. It's about someone thinking it's fair game to tear her down on MN for having a bad day.

This

Missingpop · 18/02/2023 17:52

Should have told her pregnancy is a condition not an illness 😂😂😂

Kteeb1 · 18/02/2023 17:56

I would have no idea whether rugby was on or not. Or football or any sporting event. Someone should have offered her a seat, for whatever reason she wasnt coping who knows why. I'm always amazed by how.many parents have young children and don't have them on their lap when it's busy. I always did.

alwaysoutdoors · 18/02/2023 18:03

I'm currently pregnant and feel far far better now at 29 weeks than I did when I didn't look very pregnant. The first 14 weeks were hell. Anything could make me throw up, I would suddenly feel like I was going to collapse, I overheated frequently. Unfortunately when you're pregnant you have to continue with your commutes etc but it's nice when someone offers you a seat!

Pupinski · 18/02/2023 18:14

Seems like a strange thing to trouble yourself with enough to rant here. She might not be familiar with trams on event days and not anticipated how rammed it would be once she was on it. People have different physical reactions to pregnancy at different times in the pregnancy (not looking that pregnant is neither here nor there). I can well imagine she might well have needed space or to be offered a seat (children don't have a priority need over pregnant women). Maybe she could have moved up a bit but you don't know what she was experiencing so lighten up, OP, and move on...

Carriecakes80 · 18/02/2023 18:16

Last time I was pregnant on the bus I was terrified, I felt like I couldn't get a breath in, I ended up being dropped off near the hospital and luckily I knew one of the other passengers, and she helped me get sorted. I was crying and I think I even said 'I think my baby is dying!'

Turned out I had really low iron, which doesn't sound like much, but I truly felt like I couldn't breathe and I thought I was losing my baby An iron injection and some orange juice and I was completely fine...but I went really weird on the bus. I guess I might have seemed a tad unhinged even! I was terrified!
You never know what someone's going through, so maybe some folk need to understand pregnancy aint always plain sailing and offer help where its sought instead of criticism!

Clarabell77 · 18/02/2023 18:21

Yes you are being unreasonable. So were the people in the seats not to offer her one.

ilo · 18/02/2023 18:23

YABU and rude saying ‘she should’ve got a taxi’. Taxis are so expensive and she might not have been able to afford it. Pregnant women are entitled to use public transport and she should have been offered a seat, as is common courtesy. Put herself in your shoes, I’m sure she wasn’t doing it for fun.

Pingu2245 · 18/02/2023 18:23

I mean, I don’t have a visible disability but I struggle to stand on public transport, I would look like I should give up a seat, but I absolutely can’t.

GUARDIAN1 · 18/02/2023 18:26

No way of knowing how she was feeling. I'd have made one of my kids stand up and let her have the seat

Justbefair · 18/02/2023 18:27

Kids should always give up their seats for pregnant women, yhe elderly and vulnerable. She was clearly feeling anxious and maybe did sound a bit over the top but being in a crowded tram isn't pleasant. Where have manners gone? I would've given up my seat and most people I know.

DobbleBobble · 18/02/2023 18:30

It's pretty bad that none of the families offered her a seat, parents and older kids could have stood, younger kids can sit on a lap.

T1Dmama · 18/02/2023 18:31

SkivingSnackboxes · 16/02/2023 05:41

@Ursuladevinia82 I'm not stewing just pondering. Am I allowed to do that or must every post on Mumsnet need to happen within a certain period? Perhaps you could apply to Mumsnet to be their independent advisor on whether something has been 'too long' to be posted

Ignore Ursula….. all their posts gets removed…. Earlier they were ursulaursula and their posts were removed then too!! Just a troll!!!

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