What did she want people to do?

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Recently went to spectate at a sporting event and we got on the tram to get there. It was rammed, we expected it to be rammed. It's a busy event.

The tram was standing room only, and it was busy Ie sardines.

This pregnant woman was standing in the middle of the aisle she wouldn't move further down so there was a huge gap behind her. She didn't look that pregnant tbh, she kept shouting. im pregnant, I need space, you all need to back off, I'm pregnant I need a seat im pregnant I can't be touched
The only people sat down were kids and old people and the families didn't offer her a seat. The guard came down and told her she needed to move down into the gap or get off. She decided to get off and then asked if the trams were going to be busy all day?

She genuinely wanted random strangers to not go to the rugby because she enforced a halo of 'im pregnant and no one can be near me'

Surely if you're that precious about being pregnant you'd get a taxi?

Poor woman. Don't know who dragged some of these PP up but of course someone should've offered her a seat.

All very well until she vomits on you or collapses on top of you. Would you have continued to insist on this then?

@Thatboymum you sound like a real peach 🙄

Actually pregnancy can cause both illness and disability.

I had HG during my pregnancy leading to dangerous sudden fainting spells and also suffered a disability due to the the weight of the baby on my slim frame, so I absolutely needed a seat when I commuted to work.

I think someone should have offered to move for her, the fact she got off shows she did need to sit rather than her just being dramatic about being pregnant.
i generally had a easy pregnancies and would say no to going in front in queues and taking seats etc but got on the tube in London one day and it was awful, if I hadn’t been able to sit down I wouldn’t have coped. I don’t suffer with travel sickness but when pregnant something about the back of a car and the tube made me feel horrendous the second it moved. I would have moved for her/asked my children to move for her

Seriously? What an arse!

She is pregnant. Someone should have had the class and kindness and basic good manners and compassion to offer her their seat. Why you want to side with sports fans and rude people sitting on their behinds ignoring a pregnant woman is baffling. Basic human compassion 101.

I can't believe how many people are ignoring/dismissing the fact that offering your seat to a pregnant woman is a thing.

For anyone in doubt, it's literally on the websites of train companies (here's a handful from major rail companies and Transport for London).

Let me get this right.

Whilst you were pregnant you were also blind, deaf in one ear, had lost the use of your left arm and leg, and still didn't think you were entitled to a priority seat on the train?

Sure, Jan.

I found the early part of pregnancy very difficult and nobody would have known I was pregnant, I definitely sat on the pregnant lady seats on the tube! I would get incredibly dizzy when standing and had sciatica from the first trimester. You just don’t know really.

I remember being very obviously pregnant and not one person - mostly men off to a football match - offered me or my 2 year old a seat on a 2 hour train journey. It was a horrid experience which I've never repeated. No, of course they didn't HAVE to offer, but I wouldn't dream of behaving like that. Where have all the gentlemen gone??

Thatboymum
I wouldn’t have offered her a seat I’d have offered her some advice that she’s only pregnant not disabled and isn’t the first or last woman either
you do realise that women have different pregnancy experiences.
I more or less sailed through both of mine but I recognise that some people develop complications, others just completely struggle.

I find it more respectful to be kind to people and was doing this before people had to be told to ‘Be Kind’ and have it as a Facebook meme as reminder on hie to live your life!

I'm surprised noone asked their kids to move. A bit of turn taking and she could have sat down as well and freed up space.

I hate the #bekind clam but his is obviously one of those situation when any adult with a few brain cells could find an answer to the problem and instead people would rather argue about being right.

It sounds like she (Thatboymum) got what she deserved 😆Not a nice person

A lot of people are very selfish unfortunately

Absolutely @AllOfThemWitches People can deny it as much as they want, but we all know 'some' (not all of course) people come on here and will disagree with the OP no matter what their argument is and try to make them out to be an idiot, I see it on literally every thread I look at.

i actually think the beginning of pregnancy is the hardest part it’s not pathetic to need a seat or space I remember fainting if I’d get too hot with low blood pressure

I had a really easy pregnancy but I can see how you'd be cautious and afraid of being bumped. I'd never see a pregnant woman standing if I could give up my seat. I'd tell my child to give it to her. Poor woman.

Rubbish.

I don't disagree that often in AIBU people will go out of their way to disagree with the OP, but it's standard practice to offer a pregnant woman a seat on public transport.

You keep suggesting that if this had been written from the perspective of the pregnant woman then everyone would say YABU but that isn't the case here. The people saying that others should have given up their seat (myself included) on this thread would be saying exactly the same.

And then there’s the boosters like yourself @Barneysma2 that “come on here and will” claim that anyone disagreeing with their stance must be lying or faking it 😂

Boosters??! Posters!

Poor woman! I really feel for her. My pregnancy was absolutely horrific and there were times I had to get off public transport because nobody would let me sit and I felt absolutely at risk of fainting/vomiting if I didn't sit down.

I'd have been gutted if people were calling me pathetic behind my back.

Do better OP

Yup.

My hunch is that this isn't the first time this has happened and the pregnant woman finally lost her shit.

As I said upthread, the last train journey I took whilst pregnant involved a bus replacement service that I missed because multiple people rushed past me in the queue when it was apparent there were more passengers than seats. This wasn't the first time bad experience using public transport whilst pregnant. Another involved having to show another passenger my baby bump to get him to move out of my reserved seat (up until that point he had been ignoring me), plus multiple bus journeys where the driver sped away before I had chance to sit down.

I made a decision after the last incident to stop using public transport, because it became clear that pregnant women weren't a priority after all, but I was fortunate enough to have that as an option. If this woman was using public transport to commute to work, and having to deal with selfish arseholes with zero manners on a regular basis, I can totally understand how she might have reached this point.

Not really @Ursuladevinia82 it is merely what I have noticed on Mumsnet as a whole. I have no opinion specifically on whether she should have been offered a seat or not, my original post was merely to point out that I see alot of posters on here gunning for the OP no matter what the narrative and I am fairly confident if the pregnant lady had come on here telling her story, alot of people would have told her that just because she is pregnant it doesn't entitle her to a seat. Hence why I said people can be fickle on here. But I will gladly accept you have a difference of opinion to me. And I wish you a lovely day @Ursuladevinia82

. I have no opinion specifically on whether she should have been offered a seat or not,

Interesting. Have you ever been pregnant? Would you offer your seat if you saw a pregnant woman standing?

And I wish you a lovely day @Ursuladevinia82

oh thank you!! 😂