Manager said no to holiday request

[Buddythecat1]

I'm probably going to get my arse handed to me on a plate here but fck it.
I asked for two days off on Monday just passed
I asked 10 days in advance.
Just been told today that it's been refused.
I asked why, was told 'I don't know'

I am very hot headed and I have such strong temptation to walk put right now. (I have another thread about my contract if anybody cares)
I've been spoken to like shit by this manager, talked down to on a daily basis, I've been micromanaged.
I dread coming to work, I cry most days. Management allowed another employee to verbally abuse me and no consequences were ever brought to the other person.

Would I be totally unreasonable to walk out? The thought of never having to work in this place again gives me great relief. Or am I just being stupid and should suck it up

I got the new job

Congrats.

Once you get the formal offer go on sick leave from this job.

On and if possible get signed off with work place stress.

congrats! I agree, get signed off and don’t give them any notice. People like that shouldn’t be able to get away with it though, I wish you’d have complained.

Well done. This gives you some breathing space to look for another 😁

Yes it can be ‘argued with’ by management. There is no legal obligation for an employer to grant time off for a medical appointment unless it’s for a protected characteristic such as disability or pregnancy. They can ask that the employee rebook the appointment in their own time or if that isn’t possible, take annual leave, unpaid time off, or if paid, they could be asked to make up the time.

Amazing news! Get out of that place ASAP!

Can you be signed off with stress from your doctor?

Yes it can be ‘argued with’ by management. There is no legal obligation for an employer to grant time off for a medical appointment unless it’s for a protected characteristic such as disability or pregnancy. They can ask that the employee rebook the appointment in their own time or if that isn’t possible, take annual leave, unpaid time off, or if paid, they could be asked to make up the time

Yes, but it didn't sound like they were allowing the OP any of those options. At the very least you should be able to take annual leave and if you don't have any left, unpaid leave. It seems like there's a gap in the law here, you should be able to take time off for hospital appointments, as long as you present evidence. No obligation on employer to pay but definitely leave without question.

Congratulations on the new job OP. As you have so much holiday to take you shouldn't have to give your current employer much notice. All the best!

Anyone can be in a union, regardless of industry.

Well if they won't give you annual leave, what do you do, other than just phone in sick?

OK the kid's birthday could be celebrated on a day off. You might be able to miss a parents evening if you see the teacher frequently anyway.

But you can't keep missing things.

congratulations.

I was reading your posts with my jaw on the ground.

hope your new job is a million times better.

for the poster who needs to give a years notice for holiday 🙄 where I am we can put in for AL the day before.
Ive authorised parental leave for parents evenings as well, parental leave is unpaid and some of my team want to keep paid holidays in tact and take an unpaid afternoon off for kids.

Wether you are right or wrong to ask for time off, you are unhappy at work and it won't get any better. Leave.

Glad to hear that, congratulations.

Whilst I agree the manager sounds like they are being unreasonable it is incorrect to say they have to allow annual leave. They have to allow the legal minimum (usually 28 days in the UK for full time employees) but even that can be dictated as to when you can take it. In terms of when you can take your leave we were always taught “leave is a privilege not a right”. That said, your manager sounds a bit of a cock if they are unprepared to give a good reason for the refusal so I would look for a different job and when you get one tell your manager to shove the job.

congratulations on your new job. The previous one sounds like a situation where you couldn't win. Best of luck

Congratulations

If you leave you will be paid any accrued and untaken holiday up until your end date. It’s very common not to allow employees to carry over holiday they’ve not taken unless they have been on long term sick or maternity leave!

I would check your rights here with cab

The ya bldefinitely need to speak to cab and get yer holiday pay, you are entitled to this at the end of your contract and I would sue their asses to get it, had a company try this with me, it's safe to say I got it all

You really need to get some professional advice, EVERYONE is entitled to a lunch break of they work more than 6 hours a day, and I mean legally EVERYONE IS ENTITLED and he is breaking the law. If I was you I would collate everything you have resign and then take them to a tribunal for constructive dismissal. If there is a HR department you need to go to them or go above this guys head and tell his boss he is breaking the law

Massive congrats on your new job op.
💐

She can’t sue anyone as she hasn’t got two years service. And there is absolutely no obligation for an employer to pay an employee for untaken holidays unless they were prevented from doing so due to operational issues - in any event the employer would have to have allowed 28 days as a statutory minimum, and there is also no obligation to allow an employee to carry over any unused holiday to the following year. Where the employer is obliged to pay for untaken holiday entitlement, is where the employee leaves before this is possible. In that event the pay is limited to 28 days statutory and if the employee has to work a notice period the employer can insist that the employee take unused holidays as part of that.

She doesn’t have two years service, she has no protected rights, she can’t initiate a case for constructive dismissal or anything else.

She can’t sue anyone as she hasn’t got two years service

She can for holiday pay, it's not the same as unfair dismissal or redundancy.