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Nicola Sturgeon Resigns

364 replies

Blessedwithsunshine · 15/02/2023 10:03

Thoughts?

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Goldpaw · 15/02/2023 10:49

feellikeanalien · 15/02/2023 10:46

All the Scottish parliament needs is some decent opposition now.

Good luck finding that!

Figgygal · 15/02/2023 10:49

I hope the new leader puts forward scotland's needs today and lays off the tedious indyref stuff
I thought she did well with the covid response I'll give her that

Let's see what reasons she puts forward

FadoFado · 15/02/2023 10:50

feellikeanalien · 15/02/2023 10:46

All the Scottish parliament needs is some decent opposition now.

Lol

any day now...

Helleofabore · 15/02/2023 10:50

This seems to be good news.

ismu · 15/02/2023 10:50

Botw1 · 15/02/2023 10:42

@ismu

I don't know much about Jacinda but NS could have stuck up for women and avoided this.

It wasn't an impossible choice

But as I say I doubt its just that

Whatever you think of GRR, if you are a politician who's not right wing it's very hard to find a legal or moral reason to oppose it in the parliamentary process.That's why on a purely legislative basis all parties voted it through.
Opposing it looks incredibly populist and cynical especially on the part of the Tories who actually proposed it in the first place.
So it's a very easy way to put women leaders in an impossible position.

creamwitheverything · 15/02/2023 10:51

I am not surprised in the announcement following the last few months,I disagree with many of her policies, however I don;t think anyone can take away her achievements in being a successful woman in politics. Such is life ,these things happen.either way I will not loose any sleep over it. The popularity of every public figure wanes after a while.

GoodChat · 15/02/2023 10:51

feellikeanalien · 15/02/2023 10:46

All the Scottish parliament needs is some decent opposition now.

Just like the rest of the UK then!

Johnnysgirl · 15/02/2023 10:52

However, MN hates her mainly, it seems, because she is a woman in power
That is absolutely not why. You can't be this dim, surely?

thebellagio · 15/02/2023 10:53

well this was a surprise. Clearly something is about to come out that is too damaging that she's getting ahead of the story, rather than being forced out.

I admit, I don't know anything about financial issues, I'll have to google that but the gender reform backtrack surely made her position untenable.

I find her an odd one. I find that I disagree entirely with her politics, but when we've had times of crisis, she's the only one who has ever been there to immediately step up. Remember back in 2016 after the Brexit vote and the whole of parliament had about 2 days of going "oh fuck we didn't expect that", I remember she was the only one who kept a bit of calm. Same as the start of Covid, when Boris was blustering, she kept her head and made sense (then went utterly looney as well)

MrsFinkelstein · 15/02/2023 10:53

I'm delighted.

Though it's an incredibly shallow pool of talent within the SNP so Gawd knows who we'll end up with.

RJnomore1 · 15/02/2023 10:54

I don’t agree with much of her politics but I do hope she is okay and this isn’t a health related thing.

ismu · 15/02/2023 10:54

Very interesting

MavisFlump · 15/02/2023 10:54

Hallebloodylujah!
Did she jump or was she pushed? The credibility of the SNP must be almost zero with many, many people.

PeeblesQueebles · 15/02/2023 10:54

Delighted.

Intrigued to know more about why, feels like more than just the trans issue.

Personally I hope this is the last time that Scotland, and indeed the UK, elects someone who pretends to care about the country simply to further their own ideological ambitions. There are so many lessons to be learned.

I’ve no issue with her ideology, but she never really stood for Scotland. She was only ever anti-WM and took no responsibility or accountability for anything.

Botw1 · 15/02/2023 10:54

@ismu

I don't think opposing it on the basis of protecting the rights and safety of women is morally difficult at all.

hryllilegur · 15/02/2023 10:54

I doubt the plan to force a ‘de facto’ independence referendum via a Scottish parliament election by resigning is likely to improve support for the SNP or independence.

All that would do is make it clear that they simply do not care about the Scottish people at all. They’re just obsessed with independence at any and all cost.

Blessedwithsunshine · 15/02/2023 10:55

It is a huge lost opportunity in many ways. Imagine Sturgeon had supported and defined women instead of selling us out for a sponsored woke campaign that diminished, damaged and harmed women and girls (assuming there is no financial impropriety)

maybe she could have been remembered as one of the greatest leaders in modern times - certainly one of the best female leaders.

Now it looks very much like her legacy is going down in flames and feathers. God only knows what the investigation findings are going to publish as I am sure she could have found a way to save herself from the other issues.

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Goldpaw · 15/02/2023 10:55

I think she backed herself into a corner with a potential referendum. She made a massive misjudgement after the 2016 Brexit referendum. The polls suddenly went from 55/45 to 45/55 and she believed they'd stay there and it would be all systems go.

But they didn't, they dropped back but she'd already made her move and had to keep going.

At least now there can be something of a reset if the SNP choose to do so.

TheKeatingFive · 15/02/2023 10:55

I don’t agree with this. If you want to be electable, it has been an impossible position. Whatever you personally believe, at least until recently coming out as GC would end you political career (at least until the wind change).

I disagree. No need to foreground it at all. it's not actually something that the majority of the electorate have strong opinions on (until they were confronted with the prospect of rapists in women's prisons that is).

2bazookas · 15/02/2023 10:56

Blessedwithsunshine · 15/02/2023 10:41

I am wondering WHO does support Nicola Sturgeon’s politics on gender in Scotland exactly? Apart from rapists and some of the 1% of the population with gender incongruence?

It is extremely hard to see why Sturgeon was so welded to a minority view that put so many vulnerable women in danger? What possible reason can there be?

Sturgeon sold out the women of Scotland to her obsession with being the woamn who brought home Independence.

Even the SNP finally realised that 50% of the electorate are furious women.

Auntieobem · 15/02/2023 10:56

She used to really impress ne - a v strong female leader. But her stance re GRA changed all if that for me. Her determination to destroy womens rights shocked me. Glad to see her going.

MrsFinkelstein · 15/02/2023 10:57

Pleasegodgotosleep · 15/02/2023 10:16

Waiting to see what big scandal is about go break, or am I just a cynic?

Nope, I'm the same.

It can't just be the GRC, it's financial, must be bigger than initially thought.

FrancescaContini · 15/02/2023 10:57

Apparently she’s “had enough”.

Enough of what? Trying to explain that a man can be a woman?

Good bloody riddance to the NOT “a feminist to her fingertips”.

DidyouNO · 15/02/2023 10:58

Good! But she's merely jumping before she's pushed. But yet again she'll get away with everything just like slimy Salmond did and sadly the SNP will remain in power.