To worry about how right wing...

[TooBigForMyBoots]

...the UK is becoming? The scenes in Liverpool were shocking and I fear this is just the beginning.

Also, how about extreme left-wing angry mobs toppling statues and destroying public property?

The probably do, but they have to accept that they get more dangerous and more fragmented society as a result. The poster was saying it was not as safe as a result of tourism. That’s their choice if that’s what they want is all, and more power to them. Maybe in 30 years it’ll have its ghettos and no go areas like every other city in Europe. If it makes them happy, feeds them, and brings in nice ripe targets, then they are right on course to do what every other nation has done.

No, that’s just right wing propaganda. These were right wing angry mobs and the right wing media tried to paint them as in some way leftward leaning.

Left wing good.
Right wing bad.
Have you not been reading the thread.
Get with the program or we might start thinking you’re a conspiracy theorist.

Because mobs didn’t exist throughout history in the UK.
They were invented after Brexit didn’t you know.

Thats not what I meant. What I was getting at was that there are consequences of inviting abundant wealth into your country, and those consequences are obvious. I care not which path they take. I was merely suggesting that it is foreseeable that one may not wish to corrupt one’s society with excesses of greed, but I believe everyone should be free to choose what best suits them.

Are you being serious? Angry mobs toppling statues were Marxist organisations.

So you believe some news (that fit your bias) but not those that don't....I see

I’ll let someone else explain what sarcasm is.

Are you saying the police are lying and there was no violent right wing contingent that turned up in Knowsley @Trainbear?

We are talking about the extremists here. The extreme right wing. Not your granny who has always voted conservative, but the young man who thinks the Nazis had a point.

No.
What they are doing is pointing out that ‘the police’ have been demonstrably shown to have misjudged, misreported and mischaracterised numerous incidents in the past, and you are using them as your objective truth.
They are questioning just how high your horse really is.

Asylum seekers are not coming to a country with a neutral view on their existence. Nor is the UK particularly accepting of racial differences. Brexit makes that even more obvious.

One thing that was never talked about is the collection of people who did vote for it based on migration. There were a lot who did vote to end immigration. Then there were people who voted because they felt the EU arrangements discriminated against the Commonwealth and it would be fairer for them. To say these groups don't match is an understatement- it's not a surprise there has been much more racial tension since the vote. A substantial number of those voting don't want immigration at all. And they have not got what they wanted. Yes, expect racial tension to go up as long there is not a policy for this class of people. And before you tell me how outrageous that is, the Conservatives have been trying for years to do just that, not very successfully but they dream of Rwanda because then they will have it. Rwanda will be (if it ever works) a fantastic dog whistle policy.

The foreigner who attacks the virtue of a young maid is an old story. Every society has it in one form or another. It is guaranteed to rile up people otherwise uninterested. And ignoring the "but we have moved on or have learned or are progressive", I think the universality of this idea as a basis for revenge against a stranger cuts strongly against tolerant thought. That the police have made such a terrible job in other parts of the country makes it even more potent.

This is not a function of social media or the internet. It is not necessarily right or left. It's a very deep issue which has been festering for decades.

A hotel near me is used for housing asylum seekers. I only know because of a few posts on local social media groups collecting unwanted winter clothing etc. to donate to them. There has been no protest or other backlash against their presence at all, to the best of my knowledge.

Glad to say my bit of the UK is clearly moving healthily to the left! :-)

I'd be willing to bet most people on this thread haven't mixed with or even seen the Far Right in mob form. Terrorising that they are perfectly reasonable people with moderate views who are just a bit cross and frustrated is Grade A bollocks. They are thugs - racist, darkly misogynistic, Islamophobic and violent thugs , often with prior convictions for a range of violent offences.

Terrorising = theorising. Spellcheck aberration.

“Data ranks Egypt high on the list of ‘safe nations,’ though this is misrepresentative,” (Haun) says. “Cultural pressures and fears of social rejection mean certain crimes (such as rape) are often not reported in Egypt.”

Isn't there also an issue around who they're safe for Marsha?

Even if we leave aside that Egypt has had the world's greatest prevalence of FGM, there's still a widespread understanding that their own women are safe from molestation, etc. - probably not least because, in many areas, it's uncommon to see them outside the home

Unfortunately the same can't be said for female visitors, so we have a situation where even some airport security men consider themselves entitled to smirkingly grope teenage girls in full view of their parents

There has always been a very extreme right wing in the UK. My point is, they have never had a more mainstreaming of their ideas since the 1970s. The foreigner attacked my fair maid is a universal fear, and it's easily played on in the current climate. You can have the core racists and pick up a lot of fellow travelers. The latter are much bigger as a section of society.

Agree. I have been on demos against extreme far right when they were trying to get a BNP MP elected. Most attending had serious criminal convictions for GBH, domestic violence, and similar.
Read Hope not Hate website. He supports young people who have got mixed up with groups to get out. They operate like the criminal gangs they often are, so getting out is not straightforward.

There was a video on line showing a 15 year old being propositioned by a 25 year old (assumed) asylum seeker, which was used to stir up trouble. I don't know if the video was genuine, but the girl handled it very well and told him he would get arrested for that sort of thing.

Maybe look at some of the messaging in the Brexit campaign?

Turkey to join EU, flood gates open to 85m Muslims, illustrated on a map showing Syria and Iraq... look whats coming next!
Then there was Farage's We are full poster, all the people in the column of refugee's were dark skinned, the origins of the poster was Nazi Germany....

Its extremely naïve to imply, as you seem to be doing that racism had a marginal effect...

Take the racist vote out of the referendum and Remain would have won by a huge margin.

This was in a letter Bojo signed to Cameron pre vote... "the public will draw the reasonable conclusion that the only way to avoid having common borders with Turkey is to vote Leave and take back control on 23 June"

..and he wasn't the only one to lie about this... but Bojo knew very well Turkey would never join the EU, it would be vetoed but they stoked the racist vote, because if Turkey was a rich white and Christian country, there simply would not have been the fear...

Subsequently Bojo lied and denied ever talking about Turkey.

@Clavinova

The majority of left-wing terrorist groups originated in the aftermath of World War II and were predominantly active during the Cold War.[1] Most left-wing terrorist groups that had operated in the 1970s and 1980s disappeared by the mid-1990s. One exception was the Greek Revolutionary Organization 17 November (17N), which lasted until 2002. Since then, left-wing terrorism has been relatively minor in the Western world in comparison with other forms of terrorism,[1] and is now mostly carried out by insurgent groups in the developing world.[4]

The IRA were/are a nationalist terrorist organisation, willing to do deals to further their aims, left and right wing terror groups don't do this.

The foreigner attacked my fair maid is a universal fear, and it's easily played on in the current climate

What are you on about? No, this is not a hypothetical 'fear'. Incidents are happening as we speak!

Apologies. This thread is bonkers

Roflmao.
Its all political posturing and trolling now.
I’m outa here.

Could you give some links to incidents happening 'as we speak'.