To remind you that no photo ID = no right to vote.

[SusiePevensie]

Get ID here: www.gov.uk/apply-for-photo-id-voter-authority-certificate

“Papers please!”

13.5 million U.K. adults don’t have a driving licence

8 million don’t have a passport.

Female pensioners are one of the groups most likely to have neither, and female pensioners living alone are also one of the groups least likely to be claiming all the benefits they are entitled to, possibly because applying for things by filling in forms is a barrier for some of the generations who left school at 14.

Female pensioners over 75 living alone are one of the groups least likely to have internet too.

No.

5% of the people surveyed which would equate to "nearly 2.6m voters" in a general election. (I make it 2.3 m based on the ONS's 46,560,452 parliamentary election registered voters but that may be a rounding issue)

What's interesting is that the previous "it's a conspiracy to stop young people voting" narrative has fallen victim to the fact that the oldest age group is far less likely to have a valid form of ID, even including bus passes, and are less able to access the offficial alternatives. But it is true that the poorest and hence Labour voters are less likely to have ID.

Good job I'm not clumsy! 😉

It's only my driving licence I've got in it along with a bank card, clocking in card and that sort of thing.

Not like I walk around with every piece of ID I've got! 🙈

Definitely need my driving licence at all times though.

Those aren't the only two forms of ID available, you know! You'd have an argument if they were, but since they aren't you don't. 🤦‍♂️

Once again, if someone can't afford to pay for ID they can apply for the free Voter Authority Certificate ahead of the next set of elections.

Should they wish to, of course....

The things I do for you, verdant. I even ummed and ahhed about going but then I felt I had to, to keep you happy!! But my local councillors do work hard to keep the area nice so it would be wrong not to show my thanks.

So I took my old ID and I wore glasses instead of lenses to test the system for you. They hardly even looked at it and they didn't check it against my name on the list! So they gave me my id back, she took ages finding my address, then she asked me if I was MarshaMelrose!!! Surely they should have checked my ID against the name? Very poor.

Anyway, the good news is they're not that fussed by the quality of the photo so people should be OK.

And this is exactly why there was crystal clear instructions on your voter card telling u how to get you free Id card to solve this problem

Saw a report saying this was mainly affecting older people.

I’ve 180-d. WHY DIDNT WE BRING THIS IN PRE-BREXIT?!??

Anecdotally, offline, it’s all old ladies being turned away at the polling station that I’m hearing about but we should remember that bureaucracy itself turns away people who find it stressful or difficult. They won’t even make it as far as a polling station

Thank you for your service @MarshaMelrose 😁

From the Daily Mail

Worked at polling station on Thursday/- id was a total non issue - everyone just produced it without issue. Only had one person all day whosecid was

Whose Id was not accepted!

Multiply that by 35,000 polling stations and then understand that some bigger ones had dozens.

And then wrap your mind around the fact that the bureaucracy of having to apply had already disenfranchised an unknown number of people who used to be able to vote.

If you care about democracy you know this isn’t ok.

ID cards ARE fully democratic in order to vote. I've told you on multiple occasions now there was a case brought to the Supreme Court which obviously lost.

They're democratic all over Europe. 🤦‍♂️

If there were any significant problems with ID at polling stations, this will be refined ahead of far more important elections such as General Elections and devolved elections.

Remember, the Electoral Commission has been in favour of voter ID for the last NINE years.

Daily Fail.....Christ on a bike! 🤣

Voter ID would be democratic if we all had one.

As they do in the countries you keep referring to

But we don’t, do we?

And until we do it isn’t democratic to withhold people’s right to vote unless they produce what millions of voters don’t have.

Give it up the only people who couldn’t vote were the one who didn’t follow the instructions about ID and get themselves a free card

can you explain to me why a person registered to vote got a card with instructions on (they must of read it or they wouldn’t know where the polling station was)
why it’s anyone’s fault but there own that they didn’t follow the id instructions

But everyone who requires the FREE Voter Authority Certificate had the opportunity to get it.

Applications for the VAC will either be open again or soon will be now the local council elections are over.

There obviously needs to be a deadline ahead of any type of election, but applications are not permanently closed, you know.

So, there's nothing undemocratic about it in any part of the UK from Great Britain to Northern Ireland.

If it was...well, try bringing a case to the Supreme Court if you're so worried. Your own lawyer will tell you what I'm telling you. 🤷‍♂️

There’s a whole Electoral Commission report into why this law was expected to disenfranchise people, including which groups would be disproportionately affected, how and why.

If you’re interested.

Do you think people are disenfranchised by having to register to vote in the first place

No as if you don't send back the form, they do send someone to your home who will help you fill out the form. I know as I used to do this.

The problem with the photo id is that you either need a passport/driving licence/bus pass etc or the internet with a camera and know your NI number or have access to copies of bills that you pay at the home address. Not something everyone has access too. You can easily not have internet access or if you do, not have a digital camera or that your partner hasn't put your name down on the bills or not know your NI number as you lost it years ago and haven't changed jobs.

Probably, but then principles don't matter much to the Labour Party until it is convenient to them. Just like disenfranchised voters, racism, the safety of children from grooming gangs, welfare of elderly people, street crime, the safety and rights of of women, the list goes on.

None of these things matters a shiny shit to them until the day they can scream about them for fake PR brownie points, then when the election is won, normal service is resumed.

Tories are the same deal, anyone who still hilariously "believes in" either party at this point has information problems, and if tjat story really happened (which let's be honest it probably didn't), voter would be about 50% of the way to where most people are at already.

Just leaving this here:

“Parties that try and gerrymander end up finding their clever scheme comes back to bite them, as dare I say we found by insisting on voter ID for elections”,

(Jacob Rees-Mogg)

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/jacob-reesmogg-electoral-commission-england-parties-conservatives-b1081147.html

I didn’t want voter ID because it disenfranchises.

However, if a load of SCUM introduce it, and then it disenfranchises the WRONG people…

A ban on allowing the retired to vote would just solve all these problems. A beautiful sledgehammer to crack this voter ID-nut.

I bet you are!

But if we employ critical thinking we'd be saying Rees-Mogg is talking out of his arse on this and doesn't want to consider other reasons for the Conservatives' own poor showing at the local elections.

Indeed, Rees-Mogg said this about voter ID in 2021:

“We have confidence in our voters… who won’t find it unduly onerous to turn up with an identity document of some kind."

There is no evidence at present to support any assertion from anyone that thr Conservative Party lost the council elections due to pensioners not being able to vote for them.

Rees-Mogg can sit down! 🤦‍♂️

Voter ID is obviously NOT anything close to gerrymandering by any means. Considering the same voter ID requirement extended to Scotland and Wales in addition to England, its very clear that it cannot be considered to be gerrymandering by any means. What possible benefit would the Conservatives get in Scotland, for example? It's an SNP stronghold where the Conservatives aren't suddenly going to beat them, you know.

To say nothing about Northern Ireland where the Conservatives get significantly fewer than 1,000 votes!

If voter ID itself is considered to be gerrymandering, you'd have to explain why its NOT viewed that way in the rest of Europe, never mind most of the rest of the world! In Europe, the UK was the only one not to require government issued/approved ID for voting.

Rees-Mogg is talking out of his arse and voter ID is NOT gerrymandering at all.

Funny how the GB lefty fears DIDN'T come to pass.....isn't* *it?!

You're very quiet about it despite your earlier posts. You're scrabbling around now for anything to shore up your earlier arguments and using Rees-Mogg to do it!🤦‍♂️