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To remind you that no photo ID = no right to vote.

377 replies

SusiePevensie · 11/02/2023 14:32

Get ID here: www.gov.uk/apply-for-photo-id-voter-authority-certificate

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NotAlabama · 11/02/2023 17:13

My mum is nearly 90, no passport and no driving licence. Has previously voted in every election all her adult life.

IntentionalError · 11/02/2023 17:14

Quite right, too. Our voting system was wide open to organised corruption so this is a welcome and long overdue change. Well done to the government. 👏👏👏

NotAlabama · 11/02/2023 17:15

Posted too soon. Thank you OP. Will have to help her apply for the voter authority certificate.

ladygindiva · 11/02/2023 17:20

Isseywith3witchycats · 11/02/2023 14:34

Most people have photo Id of some sort passport, bus pass driving licence so i cant see it being that much of a problem

Can't afford a passport and I'm a non driver and don't qualify for a bus pass

StillWantingADog · 11/02/2023 17:25

@ladygindiva
so you apply for voter ID. It’s free and you just need

a recent, digital photo of yourself
your National Insurance number

link above

Menomadness · 11/02/2023 17:29

I have no photo ID. Still have a pepper driving licence and no passport. There must be a fair few of us.
I applied for my voter ID. It was fairly straightforward but I did it online ( lots people don't have access or the skills to do this)
I believe you can apply by post but again you would then need a printed photo which could be a cost to many.
I will say my voter ID cert was very quick to be processed as was my partners so that was a positive.

Menomadness · 11/02/2023 17:29

Not pepper obviously as I would be sneezing up and down the motorways 😀

EngTech · 11/02/2023 17:30

Don’t see a problem as will use my bus pass on my way to work

My work ID has a better picture though 👍

Marjoriehere · 11/02/2023 17:41

Thanks for the link, I'll share with my brother who doesn't have any id and was worried about the cost of applying. 👍

rose69 · 11/02/2023 17:43

Bashfulclam you friend has been briefed incorrectly. The presiding officer keeps a running total of votes issued as all the ballots are numbered. This total is checked at the end of the day and verified against the number of votes in the box. Recounts are done until the number matches. The elector number is written on the back in case anyone challenges the result. The court would have to order the scrutiny of the counted papers to be matched against the corresponding list of numbers from the polling station. It would be a huge job and I don’t know if it’s ever been done. any electoral fraud would be extremely hard as
three officials in the polling station who in many cases would have only met that morning. any voter can walk in at any time, there are independent observers and the box is sealed etc.

for the person who arrived at the polling station to find that their name had a mark on the register to say that they had already voted it’s likely that this was a mistake by the polling staff rather than someone impersonating you. It happens very rarely ie about one case across the whole borough.

Wheretheskyisblue · 11/02/2023 17:46

So they accept bus passes and oyster cards as ID for those aged over 60 but not for younger people? Hmm.. pretty clear who is intended to be disinfranchised.

www.electoral-reform.org.uk/voter-id-list-gives-few-options-for-younger-voters/

MiniEggsz · 11/02/2023 17:47

Thank you.
It is outrageous they're getting away with this

caffelattetogo · 11/02/2023 17:47

It's very worrying. It will suppress votes of poorer and younger people.

Wheretheskyisblue · 11/02/2023 17:49

List of 'acceptable' ID
bylinetimes.com/2022/11/07/voter-id-its-far-worse-than-any-us-state/

Driving licence or passport
An Older Person’s Bus Pass
A Disabled Person’s Bus Pass
An Oyster 60+ card
a Freedom Pass (66+)
Passes funded by the Scottish Government
The National Entitlement Card (over 60s or 16 to 22)
Passes funded by the Welsh Government
A 60 and Over Welsh Concessionary Travel Card
A Disabled Person’s Welsh Concessionary Travel Card
Passes issued under the Northern Ireland Concessionary Fares Scheme
A Senior SmartPass
a Registered Blind SmartPass or Blind Person’s SmartPass
a War Disablement SmartPass or War Disabled SmartPass
a 60+ SmartPass
a Half Fare SmartPass
PASS card though to the list (e.g. holographic and photographic CitizenCards and some student IDs)*

ladygindiva · 11/02/2023 18:03

StillWantingADog · 11/02/2023 17:25

@ladygindiva
so you apply for voter ID. It’s free and you just need

a recent, digital photo of yourself
your National Insurance number

link above

I'm on it! Useful thread this

Regularsizedrudy · 11/02/2023 18:19

Bubblebubblebah · 11/02/2023 16:59

People who are here and don't speak English have photo IDs. We have to prove our right to work, rent etc and that was always our travel docs.
I don't know, unless extremes like homeless or drug addict, a single immigrant with no photo ID.

Cool. I work with women from overseas who don’t speak English and many also don’t have, or usually no longer have photo ID. Their husbands go to work/pay the rent etc so they are the ones who have up to date documents. The women stay at home, raise kids and are not encourage to learn English.

Applesandcarrots · 11/02/2023 18:34

Regularsizedrudy · 11/02/2023 18:19

Cool. I work with women from overseas who don’t speak English and many also don’t have, or usually no longer have photo ID. Their husbands go to work/pay the rent etc so they are the ones who have up to date documents. The women stay at home, raise kids and are not encourage to learn English.

Very frankly, do you genuinely reckon they vote...
As UK citizens they can apply for the free card. If they are not UK citizens they absolutely should have an ID. As a foreigner you have to prove ID all the time.
Of course it's different situation when DA is included, but honestly? If a non citizen lets their ID laps it's seriously negligent. I would assume they have IRL by then but it's still incredibly risky not to have any id/passport.

Kazzyhoward · 11/02/2023 18:48

BashfulClam · 11/02/2023 17:10

He was answering my question why they write a number on your ballot if it’s anonymous. He wasn’t being sarcastic. As I said that’s what I was told and we are in Scotland if it makes any difference.

The boxes have seals fixed across the opening so the presiding officer can see if they've been tampered with. The police officer in attendance certainly has no authority at all to open the box to remove a voting paper - it's one of their responsibilities to ensure that no one (other than the returning officer) opens the box!

FunnyItWorkedLastTime · 11/02/2023 18:53

The backup system hasn't been advertised widely yet because the councils have only just set it up. I expect to see widespread advertising in the run up to the May locals. I've just received my voter registration document and that contained a leaflet advertising the fact that you now need ID and explaining how to get it if needed.

BeckyWithTheGoodHair010101 · 11/02/2023 18:57

**Lol no.

have a little think. I wonder which groups of people might be less likely to have photo id? HMMMMMMM**

@Regularsizedrudy: sorry for being thick... who?

Crunchymum · 11/02/2023 19:08

What does it mean for those of us who have a postal vote?

verdantverdure · 11/02/2023 19:09

Womanofcustard · 11/02/2023 16:05

The voter fraud they’re trying to stop is mainly in the postal votes.

But there's no change to postal votes, is there?

verdantverdure · 11/02/2023 19:11

Isseywith3witchycats · 11/02/2023 14:34

Most people have photo Id of some sort passport, bus pass driving licence so i cant see it being that much of a problem

There are millions of people disenfranchised bu this new law and if they all applied for suitable voter ID today it would take years to process them all.

verdantverdure · 11/02/2023 19:12

Crunchymum · 11/02/2023 19:08

What does it mean for those of us who have a postal vote?

Carry on regardless. For now.

verdantverdure · 11/02/2023 19:14

Wheretheskyisblue · 11/02/2023 17:49

List of 'acceptable' ID
bylinetimes.com/2022/11/07/voter-id-its-far-worse-than-any-us-state/

Driving licence or passport
An Older Person’s Bus Pass
A Disabled Person’s Bus Pass
An Oyster 60+ card
a Freedom Pass (66+)
Passes funded by the Scottish Government
The National Entitlement Card (over 60s or 16 to 22)
Passes funded by the Welsh Government
A 60 and Over Welsh Concessionary Travel Card
A Disabled Person’s Welsh Concessionary Travel Card
Passes issued under the Northern Ireland Concessionary Fares Scheme
A Senior SmartPass
a Registered Blind SmartPass or Blind Person’s SmartPass
a War Disablement SmartPass or War Disabled SmartPass
a 60+ SmartPass
a Half Fare SmartPass
PASS card though to the list (e.g. holographic and photographic CitizenCards and some student IDs)*

So if you don't drive or travel abroad , and are over 22 and under 60...

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