Page 6 | 11/12 year old drinking

McCrispy · 2023-02-11T09:39:59+00:00

at a family party allowed 2 drinks with water in between whilst adult is monitoring yanbu - that’s not on abs will lead to alcohol issues and associated dangers yabu - it’s legal and allows kids to learn about drinking sensibly

Maraudingmarauders · 11/02/2023 19:14

In my friendship group we were all drinking at house parties at 13/14. I know today's generation are less alcohol focused, but I think it naive to think that kind of drinking isn't going on. We weren't a bad crowd, highly achieving academic school etc.

Personally, I was brought up 'the European way'. Wine and water from very young (4/5) at the dinner table, with proportions changing as we got older. Would be 95% water to start.
By 11/12 we were definitely drinking lager shandies at family get together. Only one per event though.
By 14 we'd be served wine or beer with the adults if we wanted it.
I don't have any concerns about it. It wouldn't have been forced on us, but if we wanted it we could have it and we'd be shown the appropriate way to have it.

maddiemookins16mum · 11/02/2023 19:17

No from me. Don’t care if it’s 38% Vodka or 4% Cider. Alcohol is for adults not wains barely out of Primary school.

kitsuneghost · 11/02/2023 19:17

Why though?

IhearyouClemFandango · 11/02/2023 19:19

Neither voting option is suitable tbh.

I have a 12 yr old and she has stuck her finger in various drinks to taste, but give her her own? Noooo way. Why on earth would we do that?!

When she is 15, 16 maybe a glass of champagne at a celebration or whatever or a lager or something

kitsuneghost · 11/02/2023 19:20

McCrispy · 11/02/2023 10:23

So what’s the view on energy drinks at that age ?

Also why? There are loads of cool soft drinks as an alternative (I like nix and kix)

WhoNeedsSleepNotISaidMyBody · 11/02/2023 19:23

FrodisCapering · 11/02/2023 09:44

It's a no from me until mine are 18. There is just no need.

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how old are yours now? 2&4???

Johnnysgirl · 11/02/2023 19:27

It wouldn't have been forced on us, but if we wanted it we could have it and we'd be shown the appropriate way to have it
Eh? The "appropriate" way would have been not while you're 14.

Remmy123 · 11/02/2023 19:29

i have an 11 almost 12 year old - no way would I allow this

Saltywalruss · 11/02/2023 19:34

Hungrycaterpillarsmummy · 11/02/2023 09:46

And if someone thinks it means the child is learning to drink sensibly then that is just fucking stupid tbh.
It won't teach them that, it'll just let them develop a taste for alcohol at a younger age.
And it's too much for their liver to deal with.

Why would you(they) even risk this?

Quite. It's a bit like saying it's a good idea to let your 11 year old take your car out for drive so that they can learn to drive sensibly.

Maraudingmarauders · 11/02/2023 19:40

Johnnysgirl · 11/02/2023 19:27

It wouldn't have been forced on us, but if we wanted it we could have it and we'd be shown the appropriate way to have it
Eh? The "appropriate" way would have been not while you're 14.

Thays very much a cultural stand point though.

Saltywalruss · 11/02/2023 19:43

Maraudingmarauders · 11/02/2023 19:14

In my friendship group we were all drinking at house parties at 13/14. I know today's generation are less alcohol focused, but I think it naive to think that kind of drinking isn't going on. We weren't a bad crowd, highly achieving academic school etc.

Personally, I was brought up 'the European way'. Wine and water from very young (4/5) at the dinner table, with proportions changing as we got older. Would be 95% water to start.
By 11/12 we were definitely drinking lager shandies at family get together. Only one per event though.
By 14 we'd be served wine or beer with the adults if we wanted it.
I don't have any concerns about it. It wouldn't have been forced on us, but if we wanted it we could have it and we'd be shown the appropriate way to have it.

I don't understand why parents do that .Why get your child slowly used to drinking more and more alcohol?

TheaBrandt · 11/02/2023 19:45

I would think the adults were weird alkies. Why the desperation to acclimatise your kid into a bad habit? Bizarre

MarshaBradyo · 11/02/2023 19:46

Saltywalruss · 11/02/2023 19:43

I don't understand why parents do that .Why get your child slowly used to drinking more and more alcohol?

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I don’t get it either. Why at 4/5 start and increase

Blueflag22 · 11/02/2023 19:54

No from me at that age and I'm from a country that would allow a some wine mixed with 7 up as I was but be fair I was around 14 -15. Now with my own kids no way, not until their earliest 18. I got drinkers 17 going out and was awful , never really really had it had for alcohol. Always been sensible I think lol

edwinbear · 11/02/2023 19:57

Far too young. DS is 13 and has zero interest in alcohol. He’s tried the odd sip of my wine/DH’s beer but thinks it’s all vile and much prefers a Coke. He’s also very into his sport and fitness and thinks alcohol is bad for you (he’s not wrong). I’m under no illusion he’ll probably change his mind at 15/16 but I’m certainly not going to encourage him to drink.

TakingTime2 · 11/02/2023 19:58

Way too young and unnecessary IMO

winterchills · 11/02/2023 20:20

11 andc12??? Why? I seriously dont understand that

Oopswediditagain2023 · 11/02/2023 20:26

YABU, but it does depend what drinks. I think drinking sensibly at home is really important for having a healthy relationship with alcohol, but they should be drinking things where you can "taste" the alcohol like wine with dinner, and not alcopops etc

elevenplusdilemma · 11/02/2023 20:47

No, not at a party. I'd allow a small glass of wine with a meal (for a special occasion) though.

Soubriquet · 11/02/2023 20:50

I remember my mum heavily encouraging me to drink at family get together a when I was around 13. She and my dad always called me names when I didn’t want to drink.

Bet you can guess my parents are alcoholics.

I don’t drink. Haven’t now for around 10 years.

Hankunamatata · 11/02/2023 21:08

So a small glass of prosecco style wine?

Maraudingmarauders · 11/02/2023 21:17

MarshaBradyo · 11/02/2023 19:46

I don’t get it either. Why at 4/5 start and increase

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Because where my family is from doesn't see alcohol as a terrible drug to be feared. Its just a normal product to be drunk. That's not to say they don't understand alcoholism etc, but by slowly increasing proportions you have an understanding of what you are drinking. If you've never had a glass of wine before and suddenly at 18 you drink it like a glass of squash, you're going to get a shock.
If you've been around it since childhood, you know what it tastes like, there's no excitement to it. It's just another drink you can choose, like having a sparkling water or aranciata. Wine is part of family life, many make their own from their own vines. You can fill a big plastic carton from a giant vat at the supermarket, same as you csn olive oil. My great aunt makes limoncello in a bucket on her front doorstep, and it's served at the end of every meal as a palate cleanser. The limoncello bucket sits next to the mozzarella bucket, where cheese is delivered every few days.
It's a different way of doing things to the traditional British way. I know not everyone agrees but i find it amazing people can't just recognise it as a different way of looking at the world.

MarshaBradyo · 11/02/2023 21:23

Maraudingmarauders · 11/02/2023 21:17

Because where my family is from doesn't see alcohol as a terrible drug to be feared. Its just a normal product to be drunk. That's not to say they don't understand alcoholism etc, but by slowly increasing proportions you have an understanding of what you are drinking. If you've never had a glass of wine before and suddenly at 18 you drink it like a glass of squash, you're going to get a shock.
If you've been around it since childhood, you know what it tastes like, there's no excitement to it. It's just another drink you can choose, like having a sparkling water or aranciata. Wine is part of family life, many make their own from their own vines. You can fill a big plastic carton from a giant vat at the supermarket, same as you csn olive oil. My great aunt makes limoncello in a bucket on her front doorstep, and it's served at the end of every meal as a palate cleanser. The limoncello bucket sits next to the mozzarella bucket, where cheese is delivered every few days.
It's a different way of doing things to the traditional British way. I know not everyone agrees but i find it amazing people can't just recognise it as a different way of looking at the world.

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I wouldn’t say I ‘fear it’ generally, just no way at that young age. We’re not totally British anyway so other cultures influence but still I’d not do this to children.

TheaBrandt · 11/02/2023 21:54

It’s really bad for you too. Limoncello is flipping strong. You give that to kids?

Hungrycaterpillarsmummy · 11/02/2023 22:14

Maraudingmarauders · 11/02/2023 21:17

Because where my family is from doesn't see alcohol as a terrible drug to be feared. Its just a normal product to be drunk. That's not to say they don't understand alcoholism etc, but by slowly increasing proportions you have an understanding of what you are drinking. If you've never had a glass of wine before and suddenly at 18 you drink it like a glass of squash, you're going to get a shock.
If you've been around it since childhood, you know what it tastes like, there's no excitement to it. It's just another drink you can choose, like having a sparkling water or aranciata. Wine is part of family life, many make their own from their own vines. You can fill a big plastic carton from a giant vat at the supermarket, same as you csn olive oil. My great aunt makes limoncello in a bucket on her front doorstep, and it's served at the end of every meal as a palate cleanser. The limoncello bucket sits next to the mozzarella bucket, where cheese is delivered every few days.
It's a different way of doing things to the traditional British way. I know not everyone agrees but i find it amazing people can't just recognise it as a different way of looking at the world.

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But that isn't what's been done here. Some adult thought it appropriate to buy a few 11yr olds a bottle of apple spurs for goodness sake
It's not a limoncello pallette cleanser lolny parents lived in France and we made limoncello. We drove to Italy to get the alcohol cheaper! It was absolutely lovely and I know where you're coming from but your romanticised version here is not the same as a bottle of sourz to shoot.