to think that 30p Lee is a scumbag

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Listen to his interview with BBC radio Nottingham. The man is a liar and aggressive when challenged. How on earth was he elected in the first place. He goes on that attack when questioned about uncomfortable facts. Still says that no one on £30000 should need a food bank. Has he heard how much housing costs are, how much food and fuel prices have risen?
Sorry, cant create a link to the interview but its on the BBC news page this morning.

@Hagpie Cack Conroe is a middle class liar, a fraud, a thief, and every bit as nasty and entitled as Lee.

I don't blame you for keeping quiet. If I'd voted for the party that wrecked the UK and added £££ to my friends' mortgage bills I'd keep schtum too.

Not necessarily. Our MP is spectacularly unpopular with the constituents. It's a safe seat so he got in because of the party he represents, no one likes him personally and not many support his politics (I'm one of the few who do). Even within the local constituency party he's not popular. They want to deselect him.

Not everywhere is like my constituency, I appreciate. But there's plenty of places where people still vote for the party rather than the personality. The MP might be extremely unpopular, but as long as a) they're seen as better than the alternative, b) they're representing the party that 'we' always vote for, or c) the constituency is highly disaffected and thinks all politicians are the same so turnout is very low ... they'll probably still get elected.

Doesn't apply to Lee Anderson personally. I don't know hos constituency well and he might indeed be popular there. But it's not a given that just being an MP means you're popular locally.

I think in this example, 30p Lee would ask why only one salary is coming into the house.

I'm on 33k and I bring home 1600 after all deductions.

@EmptyPlaces are you a Mansfield girl originally too? I was born at kings mill, lived there till I was 29, escaped after my divorce!

Thing is I think you would have to have lived there as an adult to understand the mentality of a large percentage of the population. The pits actually gave it a better structure because there were levels and professions even with the mines, electricians , engineers, developers , and lots of peripheral jobs in engineering servicing the mines- those jobs are no longer there. Being out the EU isn't suddenly going to create a plethora of well paid skilled jobs - I'm not quite sure what people were thinking.

@jackstini keep at it!! Idiots like LA are self interested twonks- just with a 'local flavour' that fools a lot of people.

He's a hang 'em, flog 'em eejit who blurts out any passing thought,. The BBC local radio interview showed what a vile bully he is. He won't last long.

No choice, at uni and disabled so need somewhere central and easy to access on public transport. People forget that, it’s expensive being disabled.

How TF does 2.7k gross become 1.6 net? That’s not typical. My partner earned that and hit over 2k even paying SL and pension. Either way point remains, people earn less and cope, thrive even.

@Fizbosshoes

Exactly as I would put. You shouldn't need a food bank but people have complicated lives. I'm a debt counsellor and people's past mistakes or dramatic changes of circumstances are the reason most of my clients are in such a difficult situation, many resorting to food banks. But if I were in government the first thing I would do is teach money management and specifically compound interest to kids at 13/14/15 because my clients are generally clueless as so how interest works! If you earn £30k, have a housing association house, no childcare costs etc you should be fine but throw in huge debt repayments and things are very different

No idea who he is, but isn’t it reasonable to say that nobody on £30k should need to visit a foodbank?

You should check your tax code then.

No one on low income should be paying huge debt repayments - default and go bankrupt. Far better that than struggle for years and need food banks

@Thanks4allthefish as I said before, I agree in theory but depends how secure your housing situation is. A lot of peoples housing is precarious if renting privately

As the discussion above has shown, it may be reasonable to think that nobody on £30k should need to use a foodbank (i.e. because the economy should be such that you can afford to live on £30k), it's not reasonable to think that in the current climate many households on £30k don't actually need to use a foodbank, which is what he is implying. That if you're on £30k and need a foodbank, it's just because you're bad at budgeting or waste your money on luxuries you don't need or are trying to make a political point or are a feckless scrounger who just wants free handhouts. In fact, it's a scandal that households on £30k do need a foodbank, but it's not their fault and it's not because they're bad at managing money.

"In fact, it's a scandal that households on £30k do need a foodbank, but it's not their fault and it's not because they're bad at managing money."

That would be better if it sad "In fact, it's a scandal that households on £30k do need a foodbank, but it's not ALWAYS their fault and it's not because ALWAYS that they're bad at managing money."

Many people are because of their own fault and because they are crap with money

Im on 26k (NHS band 4) and take home 1600k after pension and unison costs, it seems strange if on 33k you are taking home the same unless you have a large student loan I guess.

All MPs are, by definition, popular with their constituents.

Ours isn't popular with any of his now...not since his time in rehab and his removal of the whip. He's now an "Independent" and steadfastly refuses to resign , the wanker.

As for "30p Lee" he'll be gone within 3 months.

Just double checked it, as I was walking when I typed so just rounded up/down.

Annual salary
£32,215.32

Gross pcm 2684.61

Deductions
Tax 248.60
Ni (a) 201.89
Pension 442.96
Student Loan 92

Take home
1697.16

Hmm. I suggest you do a bit of research into JM. There is a lot of controversy around her.

If there is a high volume of Social Housing in LAs constituency then housing costs will be much lower than an area where private renting is the only alternative to home ownership.

Funny how fickle people are. Everyone was marvelling at the Red Wall sea change a couple of years ago and Lee Anderson was one of the faces of it.

Brexit is everything to Ashfielders.

@Iwantmyoldnameback There were/are vast amounts of it - but and it's big but I couldn't tell you how much has been sold off.

30p Lee used a worker in his office as an example.

A single female spending £124 a month on travel, which means she lives in central London.
She pays £600 "for a room". £600 for a shared room in zones 1 & 2 is cheap. Turns out she rents it from her millionaire father.

No kids. No childcare. No bills because. Well, millionaire father. She's certainly not watching roaches climb the walls...

Take a single mother nurse in London. Say she takes home £2000 a month. Rent, in even the suburbs, for a 2 bed flat is going to be at least £1500. Once bills are paid, child care, travel etc etc how much would be left for food?