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to think that 30p Lee is a scumbag

193 replies

forageintheforest · 09/02/2023 11:01

Listen to his interview with BBC radio Nottingham. The man is a liar and aggressive when challenged. How on earth was he elected in the first place. He goes on that attack when questioned about uncomfortable facts. Still says that no one on £30000 should need a food bank. Has he heard how much housing costs are, how much food and fuel prices have risen?
Sorry, cant create a link to the interview but its on the BBC news page this morning.

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orangegato · 09/02/2023 12:47

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 09/02/2023 12:16

You aren't taking home 2k once you factor in pension and student loans contribution.

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Yes you are as that’s what I earned at one point. Give or take a few quid. Call it 1.9 if you like but the point remains the same people get by on a fuck ton less.

purpleboy · 09/02/2023 12:48

Plinky don't you have 2 incomes with 2 adults in the house?

Crikeyalmighty · 09/02/2023 12:49

@FixTheBone oh I agree, but of the women I know from that area, most still are very much 'non political' - and theres a lot of 'hubby still rules the roost' - There's not actually many great well paying professional jobs for women either (nor men if I'm honest) and a lot of 'a bit of something' and for me it was a huge eye opener when I moved 'down south' - virtually every girl from my class at grammar school moved away at some point. I don't think it's unique by any means but I think it's easy to not quite 'get' why someone like Lee gets the votes. You can get by with a lot less, but as my mums husband said to me 'most of the men here seem to have a giant chip on their shoulder' (he was from the south) He thought the local women were far nicer and not exactly spoilt for choice.

orangegato · 09/02/2023 12:51

CoorieInByTheFire · 09/02/2023 12:18

Should be but isn’t. A 2 bed flat where one of my children lives is £1,450-£1,800pcm. They need a 2 bed flat as they work from home, one being at uni still so has to stay local.

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I earn more than that but no way on earth would I live in an area that costs so much. Rents might cost 3k or 4K in some posh areas but my job excludes me from those areas. Rent is a moot point, a 10, 20% pay rise won’t fix ridiculous rents, why not concentrate on reducing housing costs rather than drop in the ocean pay rises that won’t touch the sides?

PlinkyPlonk1 · 09/02/2023 12:54

He is talking about earning 32,500 and living off it without needing a food bank. So 2 adults earning minimum wage and paying childcare or 1 adult earning 32,500 and not paying childcare.

Ohshitiveturnedintomymother · 09/02/2023 12:57

I have to say that yes, he’s a wanker, but he is making the same point as Jack Monroe, largely beloved of the lefty, oblivious middle classes. She claims to feed a herself and her son at least, if not also the mysterious housemate for £20 a week. 42 meals a week, 3x7x2 is 47p a meal…

CTRALTDEL · 09/02/2023 13:01

That stunt he pulled on Twitter with his assistant, Katy, really peed me off. The only reason katy is going on holidays on her salary is her family are well off... she went to a private school that costs more than her salary now, has no dependents, and of he did the actual maths on her take home pay would realise there's no way she's living off that money anyway without help..

JesusMaryAndJosephAndTheWeeDon · 09/02/2023 13:02

IClaudine · 09/02/2023 11:27

Remind me not to visit Ashfield.

I hope he is booted out at the next election.

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If you were to visit Ashfield it would be very clear why he is popular.

It is a horribly deprived ex-mining area full of the sort of people who would admire his brand of getting things done and not standing for any nonsense.

I'm not particularly surprised they voted someone like this in, but I am surprised they voted a Tory in, I would have thought UKIP would have been more palatable to them.

MissHavishamsMouldyOldCake · 09/02/2023 13:04

Thanks4allthefish · 09/02/2023 12:41

It's not that they won't admit it - we're just sick of the name calling and vitriol aimed at us from the left. So we keep quiet. And the polls reflect that. Until polling day when the left are shocked that so many people vote Tory.

Always the victim. Even with your lot having been in power for the past 13 years.

Crikeyalmighty · 09/02/2023 13:07

@JesusMaryAndJosephAndTheWeeDon - did ukip stand? They pulled candidates out of many Tory marginals.

Fizbosshoes · 09/02/2023 13:09

Cheaper areas to live are often cheaper for a reason ie they are not well served by public transport, do not have a secondary school, have fewer facilities, fewer employment opportunities etc. Even if you do have amenities, it's often cheaper the further you move from a city. But then you might spend more on fuel to get to work/get kids to school or more on commuting costs.
Some families might manage fine on 30k others might really struggle due to different locations or circumstances, it's not one size fits all!

Crikeyalmighty · 09/02/2023 13:11

@Thanks4allthefish I can understand people who are old school Tory's even if I don't vote that way- but am suprised that anyone could look at the current bunch and think 'yep, amazing job- I will vote for them' oh and by the way I struggle with the odd fruitcake on the left too . Anyone who thought Rebecca long Bailey was gvt material I'm afraid for example -

ButItHasCheese · 09/02/2023 13:11

RosaDeInvierno · 09/02/2023 11:32

Still says that no one on £30000 should need a food bank.

But this is not a ridiculous suggestion (taken alone) but with the cost of living its not

It's incredibly stupid considering the cost of childcare alone... never mind everything else.

Bluepiano · 09/02/2023 13:15

I don’t think this is necessarily true. My salary is around £40,000 and my take home is around £2150 a month. This is because I have high pension contributions and a student loan to pay back. This will be similar for many on £30k. With a mortgage of around £1,000 a month (I don’t have a big house, a small 2 bed terrace - I live in the South East), bills and childcare being nearly as much as a mortgage, it’s very easy to see how someone earning £30,000 would need to use a food bank, without previously earning more or being in any debt.

Helpwhatwouldyoudonext · 09/02/2023 13:24

Ashfield, like Mansfield, are extremely deprived since the industries closed. There is very little money, extremely few people are educated past 16 and even fewer leave the area and then return.
Hence the voting population have a particular demographic. I know, I did a research project on the government documents on Ashfield.
This is not the same for everyone, but there are enough idiots mostly retired and entitled white men who think he speaks the TRUTH!
Then, there are the wives of such men who vote far less, the offspring of such men who believe it when their dad says that 'immigrants have your job' and therefore also vote for the twat.
Massive amount of free school meals, significant recorded problem with domestic abuse and a void filled with substance misuse.
This idiot L A LEFT the Labour party, well they asked him to leave after he caused trouble against travellers, and he SWIFTLY joined the Conservatives without a blink of an eye. Yep, the Thatcher party who 'took his job down the pit'.
The man is stupid, unprincipled and hopefully he will be the cause of his own demise v soon.
Stupid can be dangerous too.

jackstini · 09/02/2023 13:40

Phos · 09/02/2023 11:21

He is very popular with his constituents.

He's really not! Certainly not all of them

I live in the area and he is one of the most hated people

There are vast swathes of people around here who cannot stand him and are very vocal about his lies and deceit on local social media

Xol · 09/02/2023 13:46

DogInATent · 09/02/2023 12:21

The only theory I've read that comes close to making sense of it as a sensible strategy is that by appointing 30p Lee as the face of the right-wing of the party, it makes the right-wing of the party a much less attractive place to be. But I think that credits Sunak with too control of the situation. More likely it's a condition of the large part of the party he doesn't control.

For anyone thinking that this is appointment is scraping the bottom of the barrel, may I remind you that there's still Jonathan Gullis lurking below.

Yet even Gullis managed to get appointed as Parliamentary Under Secretary in the Department for Education - admittedly by Liz Truss, so fortunately that didn't last long. Apparently at his first appearance at the Despatch Box he was rebuked by the Speaker for not adopting a sufficiently Ministerial tone.

The reality is that since Johnson got in and booted all the most capable ministers for not supporting Brexit, they have been scraping the barrel. But Lee really does hit a new low.

ODFOx · 09/02/2023 13:50

He is real life version of Nosher Powell in Eat The Rich. Extraordinary.

Hagpie · 09/02/2023 13:53

Ohshitiveturnedintomymother · 09/02/2023 12:57

I have to say that yes, he’s a wanker, but he is making the same point as Jack Monroe, largely beloved of the lefty, oblivious middle classes. She claims to feed a herself and her son at least, if not also the mysterious housemate for £20 a week. 42 meals a week, 3x7x2 is 47p a meal…

No he’s not making the same point. Jack was a single mum on benefits and actually had to live the life they said and began making their own cheap meals out of necessity. They then starts sharing their ideas, advocating for the poor and released several cookbooks based on what you can often find in a food bank parcel. Food banks and their users have also have been given free copies or blanket permission to photocopy these recipes to get the word out to anyone that needs them.

Work camp/30p Lee can’t and won’t live what he preaches because his grift comes from hating the poor.

DogInATent · 09/02/2023 13:59

Xol · 09/02/2023 13:46

Yet even Gullis managed to get appointed as Parliamentary Under Secretary in the Department for Education - admittedly by Liz Truss, so fortunately that didn't last long. Apparently at his first appearance at the Despatch Box he was rebuked by the Speaker for not adopting a sufficiently Ministerial tone.

The reality is that since Johnson got in and booted all the most capable ministers for not supporting Brexit, they have been scraping the barrel. But Lee really does hit a new low.

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Conservative and Labour both lost their way in the immediate aftermath of the Brexit vote. It was a night of the long knives for the centre-moderates of both parties.

Labour has been quicker to correct the swing to the extremists and expel Corbyn and Momentum, but they haven't fixed the damage that period's done to them or really set out a coherent vision. They're so keen to avoid offending anyone they risk not appealing to anyone for any reason other than We're-Not-Them.

The Conservatives, well, they can't make up their mind what they want to be. It makes me wonder what anyone voting Conservative thinks they are voting for - is it Johnson, Truss, Sunak, Anderson, Gullis, or Rees Mogg; is it One Nation, Euro Scepticism, a New Empire, etc. Every time they change leader a new jelly policy is nailed to the wall.

EmptyPlaces · 09/02/2023 14:01

Can confirm, he is very popular in my hometown and I remain unsurprised by this. When I’m visiting family, politics is, erm, interesting. And very depressing.

EmptyPlaces · 09/02/2023 14:04

Crikeyalmighty · 09/02/2023 11:50

@forageintheforest I'm originally from that neck of the woods. I'm afraid he is popular because he and his views are an exact replica of 70% of the males of that constituency and most of that area for 15 miles around.I feel sorry for the women in that area , when the choice isa lot of Lee Anderson's. For anyone who says I'm from that area and he doesn't represent me and my partner, be honest with yourself, maybe not you but a vast percentage of people in that area will agree with him. Of course he doesn't think £30k warrants foodbanks- it probably doesn't in that area. My son and his partner bought a lovely 3 bed semi in an ok area for £175k. You can rent a decent house for £800 a month and there are vast amounts of social housing. Try £30k living in the Home Counties because your job is in that area and rents and house prices are at least double, often triple.

^ This. All of this. Hence why I ran as far as I could the second I was old enough to. The entire town is like a Dementor.

Ohshitiveturnedintomymother · 09/02/2023 14:04

Hagpie · 09/02/2023 13:53

No he’s not making the same point. Jack was a single mum on benefits and actually had to live the life they said and began making their own cheap meals out of necessity. They then starts sharing their ideas, advocating for the poor and released several cookbooks based on what you can often find in a food bank parcel. Food banks and their users have also have been given free copies or blanket permission to photocopy these recipes to get the word out to anyone that needs them.

Work camp/30p Lee can’t and won’t live what he preaches because his grift comes from hating the poor.

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Have you seen her meals? Or her twitter feed? It’s dubious if she ever was a starving single mum, she’s certainly not been for a very long time.

And she makes money out of the poor, by flogging her shitty recipes which are a waste of money, disgusting and certainly don’t come into the price bracket she claims they do.

she is essentially Tory shrill, perpetuating the myth that poor people can survive if they just spend less and eat shitty food. I don’t see why that’s different t to Lee Anderson.

AutumnCrow · 09/02/2023 14:05

He is a thoroughly revolting man, in very many ways.

EmptyPlaces · 09/02/2023 14:09

@FixTheBone tell me you’ve never lived in a deprived, oppressive, suffocating ex mining area without telling me…

  • Education is mocked, the schools are shit
  • Most are in/below poverty
  • High rates of DV
  • High rates of addiction
  • Girls are taught from a young age that ambition isn’t for them and to do as they’re old
  • Lack of, well, everything