Page 13 | For not cooking my teenager dinner

Ohdesr · 2023-02-08T21:57:00+00:00

So I am really trying to use everything we have in the house before shopping for more. today i made homemade tomato soup and garlic bread. My teen complained its not filling enough so they dont want that. Cue her complaining for the next hour that she is starved, i gave her a list of things she could eat, tuna pasta, tuna mayo jacket potato, omelette, pesto pasta, even cereal. She has now gone off in a strop because i wont go to the shop to buy her something saucy (?!) she hasnt eaten because nothing sounds nice. And now she’s gotten her dad involved saying i am starving her. Ahhhh

LuckySantangelo35 · 09/02/2023 17:43

zingally · 09/02/2023 16:31

Looking at it from her view, soup and bread (because that's all garlic bread is really, in terms of "how filling it is") isn't really a substantial meal. A lovely lunch, but a bit lacking for the main meal of the day.
The rest of her refusal of anything you offered, was just teenage strop. But I don't think she was particularly unreasonable to think the meal was a bit nothingy.

@zingally

its a perfectly fine and filling lunch. How would it not be?

LuckySantangelo35 · 09/02/2023 17:45

@Wanderingowl

but for lots of people teenagers include a bowl of homemade soup with lentils and garlic bread would be enough food 🤷‍♀️

LuckySantangelo35 · 09/02/2023 17:47

CaspianPlover · 08/02/2023 22:11

To be fair, tomato soup and garlic bread is a light lunch. Teenagers are food hoovers as they are growing so much. I think they would need a bit more than that for their evening meal.

@CaspianPlover

Homemade lentil soup is a light lunch?! Haha
how so?

georgarina · 09/02/2023 18:11

FWIW I'm sat here with a bowl of tomato lentil soup for dinner😂this thread must have given me a craving!

It's definitely filling - and at 9 months pregnant that isn't something I'd say lightly

orchid220 · 09/02/2023 18:28

LuckySantangelo35 · 09/02/2023 17:41

@orchid220

eh?? You don’t think say a big jacket potato with say a whole tin of tuna and some salad would be enough?! Are you kidding?

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No I'm not kidding. A tin of tuna is about 132 calories. A jacket potato is about 250 calories. Salad is practically nothing. How is that a huge meal?

JessicaFletcherscrewnecksweater · 09/02/2023 18:32

orchid220 · 09/02/2023 18:28

No I'm not kidding. A tin of tuna is about 132 calories. A jacket potato is about 250 calories. Salad is practically nothing. How is that a huge meal?

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What to you is a substantial meal? How many calories passes muster for you? 😳

I’d be stuffed after a jacket potato, tuna (with mayo, I believe that’s what the OP was offering) and salad. That’s enough.

Christ. Understanding a bit more about the declining health of the UK population…

DotAndCarryOne2 · 09/02/2023 18:37

orchid220 · 09/02/2023 18:28

No I'm not kidding. A tin of tuna is about 132 calories. A jacket potato is about 250 calories. Salad is practically nothing. How is that a huge meal?

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More calories than that as mayo was mentioned with the tuna. That’s going to take it to around 500 calories which is a quarter of the recommended daily intake for a woman, and a fifth for a man. May not be huge, but it’s not unreasonable.

DotAndCarryOne2 · 09/02/2023 18:39

LuckySantangelo35 · 09/02/2023 17:47

@CaspianPlover

Homemade lentil soup is a light lunch?! Haha
how so?

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Beginning to understand the obesity crisis in the UK. A lot of people considering it a light lunch without any recourse at all to the amount of calories it contains - just a simple appraisal of what’s on the plate !!

Murdoch1949 · 09/02/2023 18:40

Teenagers can argue with their own reflection. Wait for the day when she requires the soup & garlic bread be on the menu, without a bashful glance. Suggest you get her cooking lessons for her birthday, so she can be more resourceful & independent, see if she rises to that bait. I think you were perfectly reasonable with her, offered her alternatives, other than my usual one, eat it or wear it. I continually roll my eyes at my adult children offering alternatives to their own children. As a FT working mum of 4, we all had the same evening meal, if there was a meal no-one really liked, we'd take it off the menu, that's as close as I got to pandering.

DotAndCarryOne2 · 09/02/2023 18:40

LuckySantangelo35 · 09/02/2023 17:43

@zingally

its a perfectly fine and filling lunch. How would it not be?

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And the assertion that garlic bread is just ‘bread’ is wrong - OK it might be from the point of view of how filling it is, but in terms of calories and fat, it’s much more.

KarmaStar · 09/02/2023 18:42

Show her the news and perhaps she will see she's being a princess.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 09/02/2023 18:43

JessicaFletcherscrewnecksweater · 09/02/2023 18:32

What to you is a substantial meal? How many calories passes muster for you? 😳

I’d be stuffed after a jacket potato, tuna (with mayo, I believe that’s what the OP was offering) and salad. That’s enough.

Christ. Understanding a bit more about the declining health of the UK population…

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I'd self describe as a hearty eater and I'd be stuffed as well, even without mayo (dependet a bit on potato size).

hryllilegur · 09/02/2023 18:44

Calories are not a good measure of how filling something is. I just ate a big bowl of (leftover chicken and veg congee). It’s probably about 250 calories of food. But it’s really filling.

The same calories of chocolate would feel
far less substantial.

A large jacket potato, a tin of tuna, a spoonful of mayonnaise and a handful of salad is going to fill your stomach up pretty well. And it’ll provide plenty of protein too.

Sssshh · 09/02/2023 18:46

LuckySantangelo35 · 09/02/2023 17:39

@Sssshh

im still unclear as to why you couldn’t have something like jacket potato, tuna and salad as an evening meal though? And if that doesn’t constitute an evening meal, what does?

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Where did OP say she was throwing a salad with the spud? You're putting words in my mouth. And there's clearly no rule on who can have what and when. My opinion was that a spud with tuna isn't a substantial evening meal on a regular basis. No need to twist what I'm saying to suit what you want it to. I notice you're not making these comments about the cereal, or the cold pasta, or the omelette? Just the jacket potato you're fixating on.

orchid220 · 09/02/2023 18:50

JessicaFletcherscrewnecksweater · 09/02/2023 18:32

What to you is a substantial meal? How many calories passes muster for you? 😳

I’d be stuffed after a jacket potato, tuna (with mayo, I believe that’s what the OP was offering) and salad. That’s enough.

Christ. Understanding a bit more about the declining health of the UK population…

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Oh, you're one of those competitive undereaters. Do you really think people who eat more than 380 calories for their main meal of the day are overweight? I would need at least twice that and I've always been very slim. If you think it is a huge filling amount you either spend all day snacking or you are very short or underweight.

DotAndCarryOne2 · 09/02/2023 18:51

hryllilegur · 09/02/2023 18:44

Calories are not a good measure of how filling something is. I just ate a big bowl of (leftover chicken and veg congee). It’s probably about 250 calories of food. But it’s really filling.

The same calories of chocolate would feel
far less substantial.

A large jacket potato, a tin of tuna, a spoonful of mayonnaise and a handful of salad is going to fill your stomach up pretty well. And it’ll provide plenty of protein too.

Yep, not suggesting calories are a measure of how filling something is, just pointing out how easily you can consume more calories than you need on a daily basis. I’m probably going to get jumped on now from the cohort that don’t believe in calorie counting !!

JessicaFletcherscrewnecksweater · 09/02/2023 18:51

orchid220 · 09/02/2023 18:50

Oh, you're one of those competitive undereaters. Do you really think people who eat more than 380 calories for their main meal of the day are overweight? I would need at least twice that and I've always been very slim. If you think it is a huge filling amount you either spend all day snacking or you are very short or underweight.

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I’m not a competitive undereater. 😆

I am healthy though. And a healthy weight. Something to think about.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 09/02/2023 18:51

My opinion was that a spud with tuna isn't a substantial evening meal on a regular basis

And my opinion is that it is, because a jacket with filling (tuna or otherwise) is a dinner (or lunch) I have often. What in your opinion constitutes a 'substantial evening meal'? and why does an evening meal have to be substantial anyway? people aren't coming home after a day labouring in the fields or mining coal.

Kanaloa · 09/02/2023 18:54

With the ‘cold pasta isn’t enough for an evening meal’ what happens if you microwave that pasta? Is it then enough?

Kanaloa · 09/02/2023 18:56

Although once again I don’t think it really matters whether or not soup is filling enough for a meal. If op had said she doesn’t allow her daughter to prepare anything else it would be reasonable to point out soup might not have been enough. But the girl is 16 and could easily have prepared herself a meal she deemed filling enough. I think far too many people baby teenagers and then act nonplussed that they have whiny babyish young adults. At 16 years old the average person is more than capable of making their own food if they don’t want what’s been prepared for them.

AllThingsServeTheBeam · 09/02/2023 18:57

orchid220 · 09/02/2023 18:28

No I'm not kidding. A tin of tuna is about 132 calories. A jacket potato is about 250 calories. Salad is practically nothing. How is that a huge meal?

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Why does it need to be a huge meal? It's a meal. A meal good enough for tea in the evening.

midgemadgemodge · 09/02/2023 18:58

Large jacket 300+
200g tuna 200
2 table spoon mayo 200
Salad - I never count it

That's not far from your required 750 calories

Lcb123 · 09/02/2023 18:58

YANBU. I wouldn’t even offer any alternatives she needs to learn the value of money and food. And she needs to learn budgeting, shopping and cooking

MillicentTrilbyHiggins · 09/02/2023 19:01

I asked DS2 (16) if he would consider soup and bread a 'decent' filling dinner, and how he would feel if that's what we had. Eg would be complain/expect me to cook something else. He said,
He thinks soup is more of a lunch food than dinner, but depending on the soup it could also be a filling evening meal. He said he wouldn't ever complain because he loves everything I cook, and it would be rude to complain even if he didn't.

He then said he'd eat the soup (2 portions if allowed/wanted) and then make mug cake for us both if we were still hungry.

orchid220 · 09/02/2023 19:01

DotAndCarryOne2 · 09/02/2023 18:37

More calories than that as mayo was mentioned with the tuna. That’s going to take it to around 500 calories which is a quarter of the recommended daily intake for a woman, and a fifth for a man. May not be huge, but it’s not unreasonable.

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It would depend on now much you eat rest of the day. It is unreasonable if it's the main meal (i.e. lunch much smaller) and you don't spend all day snacking.