Super nanny

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Watched what I assume was an old show on tv today (is super nanny still going?) and fairly shocked by the tactics used. I remember seeing it on Sunday mornings many years ago, before dc and Dh and I saying to each other, what a nightmare having kids looked, as we lounged around probably hungover and with no commitments for the day 🤣
I do remember thinking she was great, but then, I had no kids or no idea 🤷🏻‍♀️
Did you ever follow her?

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i remember the episode too.

for those of you commenting about how you can’t overfred a baby, that’s sort of the point of the episode clip!! The woman couldn’t remember when she had last fed baby, so every time baby cried she went straight to a bottle to try and feed again. Inevitably the baby suckled a bit, gagged it back up, and 90% of the formula got left on the side in a collection of partly used bottles. The whole point was the woman was trying to feed the baby when it didn’t need feeding, it was in need of comfort/changing/ another reason for crying.

@PinkButtercups that’s great but your opinion doesn’t trump actual research and the opinions of infant feeding specialists

She did some fantastic work. So many parents had absolutely no idea... filling their children with snacks then wondering why they wouldn't eat dinner; running up and down the stairs 40x to deal with bedtime; never letting their children do anything that might mess up the house etc. There were some shocking situations: one where the dad "looked after the baby twins" while wfh...except that what he actually did was leave them in their cots all day. And another where 2 teenage girls had to homeschool in order to look after their little siblings all day while their parents worked. Straight up child abuse.

Weirdly was talking about this yesterday. I think a lot of the children on the programmes were undiagnosed SEN and her methods weren't appropriate. Then, now or ever.

She walks them back repeatedly, that was shown a million times

She's very marmite and the older episodes do have a lot of methods that now seem very outdated.
Some of the American episodes were very different due to the way punishments in America are (were?). In America it seems that 'spanking' is very common - spanking that included using a belt or cane. Apparently perfectly legal and many families accept it as normal.
In American episodes there was a lot of trying to get toddlers to nap in the afternoons - 'toddlers' that were actually 4 years old and clearly didn't need a nap but the parents were insisting on it and wondering why the children were up and down like yoyos. And the 'snack time'. They were obsessed with snacks before bed (ie supper I suppose) but quite often the children didn't want or need them - cue more "they're misbehaving".
It was all quite fascinating.

I used her getting them back to bed method and it worked very well. I also found the naughty step useful but only if my kids understood why they were on the step.

I use the naughty step technique with my dog

I think a lot of people forget that before the naughty step or time out or whatever you want to call it, the main form of discipline was smacking. Jo Frost’s techniques were a movement away from this.

I think with older children giving them a place where they are deprived of attention for a bit (like with the above example re spitting) or somewhere to calm down a bit if getting overly silly/angry/worked up is fine. I agree using it with toddlers is largely pointless - my two year old wouldn’t have a clue what I was doing if I tried to put him on a naughty step - but that doesn’t mean it’s always the wrong method.

I thought she was great when I used to watch her years ago- many years before I had kids! I've also rewatched some recently and there's no way we'd use any of her methods such as naughty step etc with our daughter. I was very surprised at how strongly I disagreed with alot of what she did.

Her style would be really counter to how we parent and wouldn't be right for us as a family at all, but then i guess times move on (and our hypothetical baby was very different to our real child in so many ways lol).

You absolutely can over feed a bottle fed baby!

We used the naughty step and the stay in bed technique when going from cot to toddler bed. Worked a treat!

Hasn't scarred my child at all and they are a very well behaved pre teen

Nothing wrong with the naughty step

You can over feed a bottle fed baby. Its breastfed that you can't

You can overfeed a bottle fed baby. Can't a breastfed baby

You can absolutely overfeed a bottlefed baby because they have the sucking reflex, so they can and do take more than they need because they’re sucking on a comfort level too.

I think you definitely can in the early days. My son is 10 months and will move his head when he's had enough like when I give him expressed breast milk

Yes, a lot of obvious SEN ignored

Her techniques were very much of their time but have dated badly so aren't really that popular now.

She had a horribly ableist comment about neurodevelopment conditions not too long ago too which, again, reflects the attitudes of the time when she was relevant however it is not acceptable now.

I overfed my first child. She was hospitalised to find out why she was projectile vomiting. Turns out inexperienced me was feeding her too much and she was taking it just not keeping it down.

I didn't like her production company's approach to recruiting families for the show.

They sent a lot of communication to nurseries and children's centres asking them to distribute to their families on their mailing list.

I struggle with vulnerable families being offered a silver bullet to fix their problems and 5 minutes of fame. The aftercare isn't there, the family has no editorial control, and their privacy really is invaded for the entertainment of others.

Many families who went on the show very much regret it.

I like Supernanny and think she is 100% spot on personally.

I think she's great. I binge watched her on YouTube last summer out of desperation as my oldest has NEVER slept and I was on my own with two under three. It was recommended by my GP at the time.

I implemented the naughty step for DS1 (but I modified it to have restorative conversations with DC), I stopped having dinnertime battles or cooking 3 meals a night, and DC started actually eating something other than the one thing he would eat before I implemented Jo's advice, and I did bedtimes as well and he actually goes to sleep now. In his own bed.

I didn't see anything harsh or mean in what she did, just a firm set of boundaries and teaching parents to be strong for their children and to be leaders.

Supernanny changed my life and my DC is so much happier and healthier now he's eating and sleeping properly.

I also like her too. Think she's great

My DD would volunteer to sit on the naughty step in exchange for not tidying up her toys or for being allowed to eat her brother's chocolate.😂