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DH wants master bedroom to be entirely office/workout space, I don't. AIBU?

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orchid55 · 06/02/2023 10:40

Moving to a new house with toddler and newborn. The house is split over 3 floors - 3 bedrooms on the first floor (2 decent size, one a bit more boxy but still fits a single bed) and then a nice spacious master with an ensuite on the top floor.

My husband works from home and wants the top floor to be his office/workout space so that he can have a quiet working space and the children don't disturb him. We have also discussed having a sofa bed in whichever room ends up being the office so family or friends can occasionally stay over. He says having the office/spare room in the loft means guests can have their own space and an ensuite which would be nice to offer.

Initially I could see practical reasons for this set up but I am now engaging my emotions more and don't feel happy with this set up at all. He will effectively have a whole floor to himself and will end up with his own quarters given it will have an ensuite and a sofa bed so he has a sofa to relax on when he needs a break. Whereas I feel relegated to the "children's floor" and the only space I get is when I am asleep - and even then, with a newborn not much of that will be happening for a long time. I know we would obviously share the bedroom but it is only big enough to sleep. It might fit a chest of drawers or a wardrobe at a push but I'm not even sure if it will as we have a king size bed and would at least like to have our bedside tables in there. This room would, however, fit a sofa bed and his office stuff.

Also, when it comes to people visiting, we might have somebody stay over maaaaybe once a quarter for a night or two. Surely them having their own space doesn't trump us having a nice space to ourselves since we have to live in this house every day.

But if we had the bedroom he suggests, most clothes would end up in the loft room. No space for me to have a dressing table or anything that's mine at all. Having to go to the office to get dressed every day - or multiple times a day. But then only having free access to it when he's not working.

I feel like I need our bedroom to be a sanctuary for us. A peaceful place, with enough space that I feel I can breathe at the end of the day after having two children attached at the hip all day. A little corner just for me even to have a dressing table - I've never had one and my bedside table is bursting at the seams with my things I would rather be able to keep nicely laid out and set up. I am happy with our bedroom also being a workout space, we have always done this since being married and it's worked out great for us since all the workout gear gets put away afterwards anyway.

I've expressed this and I do have some strong feelings about looking after my mental health with two young children. I have told him that the top floor will inevitably become his living space and he says I am attacking him by saying that and why can't I just share my feelings. But I am just stating the practical facts alongside my feelings. I did tell him that I crave a peaceful place, that daily life with 2 little ones is hard and I want to look after myself. That I would want that nice big room to be our space together, that I don't want to sleep in a cramped room with no room for my clothes let alone any tiny corner just for me. He still says I am attacking him but I think I am just stating the obvious problem here.

He has also asked why the bedroom has to be the relaxing space which I honestly thought was a bit ridiculous because where else? Having two kids rooms next to us means we have to talk quieter too whereas being upstairs means we can talk and laugh and not worry about waking the sleeping children. It just seems unreasonable. Am I supposed to put my dressing table in his office? Shall I permanently get dressed in the office? Shall I only have access to my clothes and our ensuite when he is not working and only ever shower in what will be the kids bathroom?

AIBU? Am I attacking him? How would I share my feelings in this situation without him feeling attacked? I am aware I can be quite intense when feeling overwhelmed but I am feeling overwhelmed as the demands of two young children are hard and sharing things without any intensity feels pretty impossible at the moment.

He is a very kind and loving man, not unreasonable the vast majority of time and definitely does care about me and my wellbeing but I am struggling to get through to him with this. Help!

OP posts:
chupachump · 06/02/2023 12:37

I know this isn't the point but does this house actually work for you and your family if the other three rooms are so small they're not suitable for having even a dressing table in?

musingsinmidlife · 06/02/2023 12:40

Snugglemonkey · 06/02/2023 12:33

I don't think the house is suitable for a family with small children tbh. I would hate being in a different floor than the children. I also see that it would be problematic for him to have a giant man cave, while you can't even have a dressing table. It doesn't work.

He would be working most of the week in it. Spending 40 plus hours working, not larking about. She is at home with the kids all day - he needs a quiet work space.

TheChoiceIsYours · 06/02/2023 12:41

We have the same house layout and until very recently we used the top floor for an office/spare room. To be honest it’s the only way wfh with two tiny kids was possible, as soon as our office was on the main floor it was constant noise and disturbance - luckily that coincided with lockdown being over and them being back in school so it’s less of an issue.

Working in isolation on the top floor was much easier for both of us - peace for whoever was working as the kids knew to stay away from that staircase and whoever had the kids didn’t have to shush them and keep them away from the office door all the time.

Also I didn’t want to sleep on a different floor until the kids were bigger. We now have the set up that you want but only since the kids are both over age four. Before that your husband’s suggestion was best for us.

TBH you sound like you’re being a bit dramatic about the size of the other bedrooms and how you can’t possibly fit all your stuff there. Why not make a corner of the top floor your dressing room/getting ready area?

I would err towards your husband’s suggestion tbh but the main concern here should be that you apparently have a chat about something quite mundane that you don’t agree about, without being unpleasant to one another. My husband wanted us to use our top floor for our room from day one but we discussed it like adults and compromised without drama.

lowclouds · 06/02/2023 12:43

It doesn't sound like the house is very well suited to your needs tbh.

You have two very young children so ideally they wouldn't sleep on their own on one floor whilst you're upstairs.

However the lovely bedroom on the top floor is inevitably going to cause issues between you and DH over who gets to use it and what for.

I think the house was just probably not the best choice for you. If everything was on the same floor then it would be different.

Robinni · 06/02/2023 12:44

Ideal world bedroom is relaxing nirvana.

Practical terms, he’s working from home and - depending on the job - may need some element of being removed from the children in order to function effectively. If he is next door to screaming/crying/general mayhem how is that going to work if for example there are a lot of teams meetings etc?

Secondly, I would agree that being on a separate floor to young children in the night is a fire risk, and generally more risky - if one of them starts choking or is distressed you’ll have more chance of hearing them close by. I wouldn’t rely totally on a monitor.

So all in all DH job/children’s safety would trump preening station for me.

Alternatively have you thought about a garage conversation or one of those garden rooms to shift DH into. Then everybody wins.

Robinni · 06/02/2023 12:45
  • garage conversion!
Cony23 · 06/02/2023 12:46

You sound childish, I would agree for him to have the office. As long he is working he needs some room isn't it? Or you would like him to do childcare whilst working? There's 2 kids not 6 ffs!

Snugglemonkey · 06/02/2023 12:48

musingsinmidlife · 06/02/2023 12:40

He would be working most of the week in it. Spending 40 plus hours working, not larking about. She is at home with the kids all day - he needs a quiet work space.

Both myself and my partner manage to work from home. Without having an entire floor to do it from. Willing to bet my house that most people WFH do not have an entire floor for the purpose.

Maireas · 06/02/2023 12:49

A 4 bedroom house is ample size for your family, even with someone working from home. When you looked at houses, did you think the design was problematic, or did you think you'd have the top floor bedroom?
What was discussed?

Snugglemonkey · 06/02/2023 12:49

musingsinmidlife · 06/02/2023 12:40

He would be working most of the week in it. Spending 40 plus hours working, not larking about. She is at home with the kids all day - he needs a quiet work space.

But my point is that this house is not suitable for their needs.

bussteward · 06/02/2023 12:52

musingsinmidlife · 06/02/2023 12:26

I would make the top room a room for both of you. He uses it as an office during the day and then you make yourself a little nook there as well with maybe an oversized chair and whatever you want. Split the room so both of you have functional spaces for what you want it for. You can go up and have a bath and relax in the room too. Sleep on the main floor where the kids are but maximize the use of the upstairs room for both of you.

It’s a nice idea in theory but a man who says OP is “attacking” him for expressing a basic need like “a bedroom with room for clothes and makeup” is going to edge her out of the supposed shared space. It’ll quickly turn into: now? I’m working late. A bath? Oh, there’s an international zoom tonight. Lying down? Ah, when I’ve finished my workout. He’s there 8 hours 5x a week, it’ll be primarily his space with OP grudgingly allowed a corner.

Soothsayer1 · 06/02/2023 12:52

SpacePotato · 06/02/2023 11:52

No, you are not attacking him. He is using the word 'attacking' to make you question yourself and back down so he can get his own way.

This
You need to be strategic, beat him at his own game and start manipulating him right back.

UserNameSameGame · 06/02/2023 12:53

I think also an important question is whether he needs to work from home or is choosing to. Maybe he could work from the office.

Also does OP work, and if so what is her work space like?

bussteward · 06/02/2023 12:55

Soothsayer1 · 06/02/2023 12:52

This
You need to be strategic, beat him at his own game and start manipulating him right back.

That sounds healthy.

lowclouds · 06/02/2023 12:55

Soothsayer1 · 06/02/2023 12:52

This
You need to be strategic, beat him at his own game and start manipulating him right back.

A recipe for a healthy marriage 😂

OP, what did you agree when you first looked at/ bought the house? Surely you discussed this?

Soothsayer1 · 06/02/2023 12:55

An acquaintance of mine, his wife is in not very good health, she becomes breathless very easily, I know that the reason he moved them into a 3 story house was because she can't make it up to the top floor so he can hide up there and not be disturbed.

He wants to be up there in his ivory tower feeling young free and single while you grapple with the domestic drudgery out of sight out of hearing out of mind

Blessedwithsunshine · 06/02/2023 12:56

I wfh and need a desk and some quiet! Not an entire floor and en suite!!! It’s really selfish to take up so much of the house!!
Can you convert some garden space if he is permanently wfh or better still send him back to the office!!

Soothsayer1 · 06/02/2023 12:57

I might be tempted to let it happen and then I would forget that he existed and stop doing any washing cooking and cleaning for him 😁

fandjango · 06/02/2023 12:57

Could you have the smaller room for yourself with a dressing table in and a work from home space if you need it? I would want to be sleeping on the same floor as the children. I understand your frustration but surely the work out space/sofa and chill out area can be used by you too? just because you are staying at home looking after the children doesn't mean you shouldn't get your own time to relax/work out and just have some time alone. I'd pitch the top floor as a joint area for both of you

CleaningOutMyCloset · 06/02/2023 12:58

Children being on another floor is always why I've not wanted a 3 storey house.

I think having a lovely dressing room would be nice on the top floor, that way you could have your dressing table and maybe even a comfy chair, you could set it up so if your dh is on a conf call you are not seen (he has his back against a wall), maybe even screen it off, that way you do also get a bit of 'space' that's yours

TheChoiceIsYours · 06/02/2023 12:58

Soothsayer1 · 06/02/2023 12:52

This
You need to be strategic, beat him at his own game and start manipulating him right back.

Sounds like a pretty exhausting and miserable way to be married 🙁

gamerchick · 06/02/2023 13:00

Why do men use dramatic language when they really want their own way?

I personally wouldn't want to be on a different floor to my kids. I think I'd be saying fine to him, however it's his bedroom as there is no room for a king sized bed and the room the way you want it. So a smaller bed will be bought so you can have your dressing table and other bits and thats your space. He can sleep and work in one room out the way. He doesn't get it all his own way.

nettie434 · 06/02/2023 13:00

It's a bit of a conundrum because the large en suite room would be better as a bedroom but then it means you are not on the same floor as your children who are still very young. If you do go with that arrangement, the study should really be the smallest room on the first floor. It does look selfish for one occupant to have a floor to themselves.

TheChoiceIsYours · 06/02/2023 13:00

Soothsayer1 · 06/02/2023 12:55

An acquaintance of mine, his wife is in not very good health, she becomes breathless very easily, I know that the reason he moved them into a 3 story house was because she can't make it up to the top floor so he can hide up there and not be disturbed.

He wants to be up there in his ivory tower feeling young free and single while you grapple with the domestic drudgery out of sight out of hearing out of mind

What the actual…? Where do some posters GET this crap from 🤣 The level of projecting, assumption and general insanity on MN reaches new heights every day!

Man wants quietest and most separate room to work in = man wants to be single. Ok then…

pairofrollerskates · 06/02/2023 13:00

I think his plan sounds perfect! the work space is almost entirely separate from family life, and ideal for guests. At the same time, the whole family sleeps together on the same floor. YABU