To wonder how the strikes will end?

[Wingingit11]

This isn’t a thread about whether you agree with strikes as a concept or not (there have been soooo many) but to question how you think the strikes will end?! To me, the longer they go on, the less likely there is to be movement on either side ?

I just wish they were over and done with for now tbh so everyone can get a bit more stabilised for a while. If they want to do another similar protest in say six months time I personally wouldn't have an objection to that. But this has gone on for far too long now IMO, bordering on attention seeking territory.

When the government sit down and listen then things can change

When the government is prepared to negotiate in a meaningful way we might see an outcome.

I think a lot of people are wondering the same. A level of disruption is being baked in, people expect plans to be affected by train strikes, there was notice of the teachers and healthcare workers and people tried to act accordingly, things like the driving examiners only went on a day, the airports seemed to work better when border force were out. I’ve lost track of the Royal Mail stuff completely, are they done or are we due more strikes?

The public support for strikes seems generally quite high but that’s because the majority aren’t really suffering from them taking place. I have a small business and was inconvenienced by the postal strikes but they were spread over a long period so I just got used to it and tried to work around them.

If groups of workers downed tools indefinitely it would be more dramatic, the public would be hugely impacted, the government would have to respond properly. But the drip drip makes it easier to accommodate and for the government to ignore and I can’t see how it’s going to end.

Our bills are going up month on month, just like yours. We've had pay rises below inflation for 13 years now, and this year, we've been given below 2% while inflation runs above 10%.

I hate attention, and I don't like losing pay to strike, but I'm not going to sit tight through six months of worsening finances so 'things can stabilise'.

In answer to the OP though - sadly I can't see resolution without a change in government. The nurses might manage a better outcome than the rest of us, but in general the paymasters aren't coming to the table. I'll keep on voting to strike until they do though.

I think we are at impasse already to be honest. They can keep striking but the government isn’t moving.

I don't think anything will happen and we'll just have to get used to it and factor the strikes into every element of our daily lives. The government don't seem interested in resolving anything and are probably just trying to strip as much money as they can before the general election. They literally don't give a shit at this point.

Hopefully they will end with the fall of this corrupt Tory government.

When the government comes to its senses and realises that you can't shit on workers providing essential services for years on end without them eventually getting pissed off about it and taking action.

I think that’s my thinking too. It doesn’t seem strikes are actually going to result in anything, presumably because if the govt “fold” on one area it will be difficult to justify not on another and I don’t see that happening. I guess then strikes will have to massively gain momentum for people to take notice but how many days leave will strikers be happy to swallow financially?

I suspect it will end with a tiny pay increase and many more public sector worker leaving.

So you think that the striking workers didn’t get their own way so they should just roll over and continue to be shafted for another 6 months, then try again?

Striking workers need to not back down.

I imagine they will peter out, tbh. Don't think the govt will compromise and workers will not be able to afford to strike indefinitely.

Sadly, this.

Exactly.

I’ll keep striking until I get the pay I deserve. Even if I need to work an evening job to make up the shortfall.

Once I get the pay I deserve I’ll support others to do the same.

Its a disgrace.

I don’t think the government will move, or if they do, it will not be by much.

Me too

I have no idea. DP says they're in talks again with another deal. That is the Network Rail strikes though.

Something has to give.

The government won’t move. People will have to vote with their feet and leave their jobs. This will be terrible for our public services.

The strikes are planned to minimise financial impact on striking workers, while keeping the strikes in the media to continue to pressure the government.

For example, teachers on Scotland have only lost about 3 strike days pay but the strikes are ramping up - we did a single day, then 16 days of rolling strikes (each council striking twice in that period for a single day each) and we are now going to have a further two consecutive nationwide strike days followed by 20 days of rolling two day strikes.

It looks like I won’t lose more than 2 days pay in each pay slip.

Just reading that strike deduction is not one day it’s 1/365 of salary so maybe more manageable to sustain

Good thread OP, as I have been wondering the same lately. Tbh, I can't see how this is all going to end if neither the government, nor the workers are going to give in 🤔

Sunake might decide pay for nurses and teachers will be increased over several years, leaving the next Lab Govt to fund it (assuming they win) if Labour don't, just tear up the agreement.

However, I did say at the very beginning they will not budge on pay, the Govts hope is to wait it out, until folk cannot afford the time off and/or mandates run out and new anti strike laws come in.

Not sure that will work with NHS, they can do bank to make up pay or leave.....

End result will be totally collapse of the NHS and state Education... not a problem for the pro Tories with PHI and private education.

I think at this point people who are unhappy with their pay will probably move jobs.

Then we will have even fewer teachers, firemen, nurses etc

Yes that sounds right.
is there any stats on average private sector increases in same period? Ours was very low!