To wonder how the strikes will end?

[Wingingit11]

This isn’t a thread about whether you agree with strikes as a concept or not (there have been soooo many) but to question how you think the strikes will end?! To me, the longer they go on, the less likely there is to be movement on either side ?

Yeah that does make a difference, people that don't want to disrupt the public have to reach a higher threshold to actually do it, but I hope they will carry on until they get results. Would help if they weren't losing so much pay though (Unions pay strike pay here so its not such a struggle for workers to strike but I understand that's not so common everywhere).

Unions pay strike pay here

This will be a big factor.

When the government realise they need to meet their conditions. It may well be after the next election!

I can't see an end to these strikes, until the government start listening and talking to the unions.

These strikes are a consequence of this government have underpaid teachers, nurses etc for years, while adding more and more work to their day to day work.

Or the government call a snap election just to make someone else make decisions.

That is what will happen. It’s already happening. This will make those sectors devolve further. And it isn’t just about pay, it’s about working conditions. Really, it’s within everyone’s best interest for the government to negotiate a pay deal.

The country would be screwed if they do.

bordering on attention seeking territory.
WTAF does that mean?

DontStopMeNow7
But that’s the thing if they did leave by there tens of thousands, it would make more of a point, But obviously they won’t because they are already on a good wage when you add in the in job benefits,

Why is it in the best interests of the government to negotiate a settlement, Can’t they just tough out the high inflation, it will come down,

So who is going do the job of nurses, teacher when they all leave and get other jobs.

You can't be stupid enough to think that what the country needs. We need to keep highly trained staff to do these jobs. We also need to have these jobs to be something that young people coming up through education want to do.

If being a nurse had good pay and conditions then nursing jobs would be sought after and the labour market would ensure that vacancies are filled.

Since they're not, the pay and conditions must be sub-optimal.

The NHS has 100,000 unfilled vacancies, I think I read that 40,000 of them are nursing vacancies.

Nurses and teachers etc have been underpaid for a decade or more. Why should they wait?

I feel like both sides will dig their heels in further. My union is striking for 18 days in the next 2 months. I simply cannot afford the loss of 1k wages but feel like a scab continuing to work. It's bad for everyone's mental health.

I read so where that the government have spent more money fighting the strikes than they would have spent on the requested pay rises.

Clutterbugsmum
They will not leave, they will not be-able to get a well paid job with the Pension benefits they are getting now, why don’t they all, rail workers, nurses, teachers etc, all hand their notices in tomorrow, that would make the government think, but come on look at the pay and benefits they are on, £60,000 for driving a train,

verdantverdure
what have they had to pay out?
you just can’t give in to every strike

verdantverdure
underpaid compared to what?

The government will wait it out until the strikers can't financially hold out any longer.
I'm a rail employee, our people have lost so much money that they'll never get back through any pay rises.
We're not only holding out for better pay, it's also about safety, terms and conditions and job security.
We'll be driven to back down as with COL we can't afford to hold out.
We were the forgotten essential workers during the pandemic,we worked through it, maintaining the infrastructure, keeping freight running, train services for the other essential workers etc.
Promises were made by the employers, we haven't had a pay rise for 4 years.
Then we read the nonsense about how we're greedy, we get paid a lot of money, the public don't support us, it's a joke

Underpaid compared to the private sector

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verdantverdure
Avarage teacher’s salary 35,000 plus pension, sick pay , holidays, above the national average wage,
what private sector jobs, They could always get a teaching job in a private school instead of depriving children of their education esp after Covid

That’s a lot, it is much harder when pay at the end of the month reduces. Which sector is it? (If you want to say)

@MarshaBradyo higher education sector.

If these workers didn't have valuable skills and experience the companies involved would fire and rehire some randoms on a lower wage like P&O did.

The fact that they haven't tells you they can't get cheaper Labour for this job.

It’s also not just those striking who lose pay - those teaching unpaid leave lose more per day (one day rather than 1/365th)