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Playdates there always one sided

158 replies

Douse · 05/02/2023 15:05

Playdates always seem one sided for us . My children have friends over for tea and a play but the offer is never received back to the friends house . Its something that really bothers and makes me not want to carry on having playdates

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iminvestednow · 05/02/2023 21:30

my daughter has an extremely disabled brother and it would not be practical or nice for my daughter to have play dates. It was such a shame as I would have loved that for her but in all honesty some of her brothers behaviour could have been very difficult to understand and embarrassing for my daughter. I always made sure I gave wine and take the kids out to activities but would be mortified to think that any parents thought I was taking advantage. I always made sure I said are you sure it’s ok as we can’t reciprocate.

UsingChangeofName · 05/02/2023 21:44

I find it extremely ironic that @Blessedwithsunshine pulled another poster up for her language earlier then
a) has used language that is hardly elegant in virtually every post since
and
b) has been really offensive to another poster.

and talks about setting examples to dc Hmm

Blessedwithsunshine · 05/02/2023 21:46

UsingChangeofName · 05/02/2023 21:44

I find it extremely ironic that @Blessedwithsunshine pulled another poster up for her language earlier then
a) has used language that is hardly elegant in virtually every post since
and
b) has been really offensive to another poster.

and talks about setting examples to dc Hmm

And your point is?

Blessedwithsunshine · 05/02/2023 21:49

I feel sorry for some of the dc of pp on here. They can’t educate themselves at a young age and will have to learn the hard way re: reciprocity and probably lose a bunch of good friends in the process or be doomed to carry on the CF cycle as parents themselves.

Hopeandglory · 05/02/2023 22:04

It is a shame that some people feel the need to apologise or justify the lack of having a play date for their children, I always had them for both my DD's purely for the selfish reason as both were only children (due to ages) and they were far happier with a companion. It would never occur to me that play dates should be reciprocal purely because I gained from them. I now have my GD and will often have her friends round for her amusement. Would like to point out I live in a small semi detached with a tiny garden.

PinkSyCo · 05/02/2023 22:43

Blessedwithsunshine · 05/02/2023 21:28

No one forced you to overextend yourself to such a ridiculous level with FIVE young children!

If that has turned you into a CF, and this thread is hitting a nerve then perhaps you should reflect on the example you are setting for your children.

It’s embarrassing as a child not inviting friends back, they do notice after a while. Leaving your children to roam the streets is hardly a lesson in social etiquette is it!

Overextending myself? Letting my children roam the streets? Hitting a nerve, when it’s you that has resorted to absolute ridiculousness? 😂 Okayyyy 👍

Yoyo2021 · 05/02/2023 22:46

Yes, have been there doing all the play dates and none in return. Many time I took children out for lunch too and activities like roller blading or play zones. I did it more because my child is an only child.

PinkSyCo · 05/02/2023 22:46

ShirleyPhallus · 05/02/2023 21:25

Ummm and if someone offers you something you don’t want or appreciate then don’t accept it

You aren’t doing someone else a favour by accepting an invitation

Ummm I try not to, but often these mums accost my kids first and they are too polite to say no.

Goldenbear · 06/02/2023 00:25

My DC are both at secondary school so the playdates are over - thank goodness but the 11 year old still has sleepovers. Despite hating both, having a job that sometimes involves WFH when they have friends over so not the easiest, there is no way I can/could get away with not having them. I mean I don't want your bottles of wine- I can buy my own but can't drink it on. Friday night when your lovely DC are with me as it isn't appropriate! Again I don't need lifts for my DC as I dont really want other people driving them, I will drive them home. I really don't understand how people don't think it is burdensome especially as I work all week and another child to look after is frankly not a treat to me! I do it for my DC but I don't really want to and I personally don't know anyone who feels this makes their life easier- we are all doing it for the DC! Plus, it is actually quite expensive feeding DC with pizzas on playdates and sleepovers now. In fact for me it is a hassle as I often have an empty fridge due to lack or organisation not money, in this scenario I may have enough my DC with one pizza but then need to go and buy another one

Blip · 06/02/2023 03:49

@PinkSyCo so your kids are too polite to refuse invites to play dates that neither you nor they want to go on and that you plan to never reciprocate and you are the ones doing the hosts the favour by going????

This sounds martyred and misguided and entitled. So strange.

sjxoxo · 06/02/2023 03:58

I’m going to be honest and say that there’s one person I don’t reciprocate deliberately because I don’t enjoy having her around… she invites us and I go because she’s quite insistent, but I often feel it’s very ‘showy’ and competitive..she wants us to come and look at X new toy or whatever. Last time she showed me her babies’ food diary and went through all the veg they’re eating! I didn’t ask. I’m not really interested in that kind of dynamic and we’ve got zero in common so I don’t make the effort to host them. Harsh but that’s how I feel! X

Mummyoflittledragon · 06/02/2023 04:35

I used to be one, who did the most play dates. I have an only child. Any working parents, who didn’t reciprocate often were busy, I understood. The one, who particularly upset me was the mum, who didn’t work or have other obligations and appeared to me as though she couldn’t be bothered to reciprocate even though our dds were firm friends.

One day, the girls came over to me after school and asked if they could have a play date at mine. They were year 1. I said go and ask your mum if she can do one at yours. So they bounded over and my dd came back in tears. In front of my dd she said ‘no, we need to invite x child first’. I am very obviously not a well person, nothing infectious btw, and this was really upsetting. It told me not only was it fine for me to have her dd but she didn’t think or care about mine at all. I knew this was code for NO btw and she never did invite my dd back.

I learned that day was the mum knew she should reciprocate for certain people, but dd and I didn’t matter. I had already forced her hand once before by texting her saying dd had been asking to go to theirs and maybe she could do a play date some time. No idea what the issue was but I stopped inviting the girl round until finally 2/3 years later dd was asked again by this friend. We then restarted play dates with me doing the lion’s share by far but it was easier as they were older and just needed feeding rather than more supervision.

As for x, she was the dd of a popular mum and the mum continued to have reciprocal play dates with x. She was all chatty and smiles, trying to make in roads to be part of that mum friendship group and it definitely made me feel like absolute shit on her shoe when she was monosyllabic with me. Neither friendship blossomed btw. As teens, my dd is still firm friends with the girl but neither really are with x.

I find people like friend’s mum really tricky to work out tbh. I don’t understand how someone can go from warm, chatty, all smiles with some to standoffish with others. Why make it so obvious who you do and don’t want to be friends with? Can’t you just be friendly? I’m not like this and endeavour just to get on with everyone. One of my family members is married to a woman, who seems to have a similar character to her. Their dc is a very lonely only child. She doesn’t like having people in the house and doesn’t do play dates. She doesn’t work either.

I don’t understand the mentality of not putting your child first to give them a well-rounded, happy childhood. Playmates are important developmentally. I wasn’t properly socialised as a young child, didn’t learn how to play with my peers, only older children and it had lasting damaging effect on me. I have always strived to make it easier for my dd and part of that is putting myself out.

NumberTheory · 06/02/2023 05:02

I was a SAHM so I did host more play dates and I didn’t mind, I had a pretty easy life once they were in school and I appreciated that quite a few of the parents were more strapped for time. But I don’t think any didn’t reciprocate at all. Even those who were squeezed into small flats would have mine round from time to time. I would likely have stopped inviting kids whose parents didn’t reciprocate in any way because it’s upsetting for the kids to feel so unwelcome. They always loved seeing different homes (yes, even the small flats) and having a bit of a different experience.

ShirleyPhallus · 06/02/2023 07:27

PinkSyCo · 05/02/2023 22:46

Ummm I try not to, but often these mums accost my kids first and they are too polite to say no.

Oh behave, accepting something you have no interest in doing then never reciprocating is not polite

As476 · 06/02/2023 07:37

Both DH and I work 9-6. My lovely friend has my daughter for play dates a lot but understands that I cannot reciprocate. I sometimes have her DD in half terms when I’ve got some time off.

when I worked a 5-12 in the evening, I’d have her DD once every 2 weeks on one of my days off but I just can’t do it anymore on a school night.

thefamous5 · 06/02/2023 07:51

I very very rarely host play dates

I have four children

They have various clubs and things after school

My eldest is at high school and has homework to do and often needs my help

I live a 20 min drive from school so don't have the space in the car to bring them

I don't do weekend play dates - that's our time together to go out as a family, catch up on housework and relax

To be honest I also hate my children going on play dates as well because it makes life much more stressful and difficult

ButterCrackers · 06/02/2023 08:59

thefamous5 · 06/02/2023 07:51

I very very rarely host play dates

I have four children

They have various clubs and things after school

My eldest is at high school and has homework to do and often needs my help

I live a 20 min drive from school so don't have the space in the car to bring them

I don't do weekend play dates - that's our time together to go out as a family, catch up on housework and relax

To be honest I also hate my children going on play dates as well because it makes life much more stressful and difficult

Agree. Well said.

Blessedwithsunshine · 06/02/2023 10:44

thefamous5 · 06/02/2023 07:51

I very very rarely host play dates

I have four children

They have various clubs and things after school

My eldest is at high school and has homework to do and often needs my help

I live a 20 min drive from school so don't have the space in the car to bring them

I don't do weekend play dates - that's our time together to go out as a family, catch up on housework and relax

To be honest I also hate my children going on play dates as well because it makes life much more stressful and difficult

Just say no to invitations? It’s not hard.

BloggersBlog · 06/02/2023 10:46

Douse · 05/02/2023 15:05

Playdates always seem one sided for us . My children have friends over for tea and a play but the offer is never received back to the friends house . Its something that really bothers and makes me not want to carry on having playdates

Thanks for posting and then not replying to people.

Makes SUCH an interesting thread .

ChildminderMum · 06/02/2023 10:51

I really think people are overthinking playdates and putting a lot of adult social-anxiety onto their kids!

Does your child want their friend round to play? If yes, invite them - don't do it with expectations of being paid back or keep scores or grudges, just do it to make your kid happy.
Does your child want to go to their friend's house? If yes, let them go and play - don't stress about whether or not you can return the invite.

I actually much prefer to host as I don't have to worry about other people's dirty kitchen/creepy husbands/vicious dogs Grin

The play date phase is pretty short anyway, it won't be long until your kids are playing out or making arrangements with their friends without your input.

Blessedwithsunshine · 06/02/2023 10:55

ChildminderMum · 06/02/2023 10:51

I really think people are overthinking playdates and putting a lot of adult social-anxiety onto their kids!

Does your child want their friend round to play? If yes, invite them - don't do it with expectations of being paid back or keep scores or grudges, just do it to make your kid happy.
Does your child want to go to their friend's house? If yes, let them go and play - don't stress about whether or not you can return the invite.

I actually much prefer to host as I don't have to worry about other people's dirty kitchen/creepy husbands/vicious dogs Grin

The play date phase is pretty short anyway, it won't be long until your kids are playing out or making arrangements with their friends without your input.

How sweet and naive.

ChildminderMum · 06/02/2023 11:01

Blessedwithsunshine · 06/02/2023 10:55

How sweet and naive.

Do you struggle with friendships and social relationships yourself? It's important to try not to pass your anxieties on to your children.

PinkSyCo · 06/02/2023 11:09

Blip · 06/02/2023 03:49

@PinkSyCo so your kids are too polite to refuse invites to play dates that neither you nor they want to go on and that you plan to never reciprocate and you are the ones doing the hosts the favour by going????

This sounds martyred and misguided and entitled. So strange.

I’m pretty sure I never once said that I NEVER reciprocated. I usually did if it was their best friend, but not always. When you have a lot of children, who had each other to play with as well as their home friends as well as clubs and hobbies, then yes them being invited for a play date did me absolutely no favours. 🤷🏻‍♀️

Passivhaus · 06/02/2023 11:13

Our house is currently in need of renovation I'm not having playdates here out of embarrassment until we can afford a new kitchen 😂

tellmewhentheLangshiplandscoz · 06/02/2023 11:14

arethereanyleftatall · 05/02/2023 16:07

@NuffSaidSam
I didn't punish the child whatsoever. I just had other friends over for play dates. I'm not apologising for that.

Agree.

You host said child, maybe a second time. It's not reciprocated you don't do it again.

It's hardly isolating that child.

And if indeed it's deeply unpleasant and isolating then perhaps on occasion their parent should make the effort to occasionally in some form return the favour even it it has to be planned in advance due to busy lives. If it's all about preventing their child from feeling isolated.

OP I used to be the mug that hosted and provided tea all the time. And after a few occasions of it never being reciprocated I just stopped and invested the time and effort into the few that did

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