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Can we have nothing for ourselves? Male fucking menopause

206 replies

GNR2022 · 03/02/2023 12:34

Don’t think I can bring myself to watch this segment on Packed Lunch. Debilitating for them apparently…

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Felix125 · 06/02/2023 09:42

RoseslnTheHospital · Yesterday 22:35
So because some men may rarely suffer from low testosterone when older/elderly, this must be discussed ad nauseam when women are discussing men inserting themselves into menopause discussions? Because one or two of the symptoms are similar??
Never mind that your first contributions to the thread jumped straight into whataboutery regarding male suicide, depression, etc etc, seizing on this idea of men also suffering some kind of "pause" in middle age as a reason for all their ills. And as a handy stick to beat women with for not caring about men and their issues.

Its getting discussed here, because this is what the thread is about.....The title includes the words "male f* menopause"

And I have never said that men suffer from the menopause - what I have said is that they may suffer from similar symptoms. And this is due to falling hormone levels in their body. Just as the menopause is caused by falling levels of oestrogen & progesterone - similar symptoms can be displayed in men due to the falling levels of testosterone. And this is sometime pruely age related.

These symptoms can include anxiety & depression and it could be that no other external influence is causing this - just the falling hormone levels

And anxiety & depression is one of the main factors which often leads to suicide - so it should be taken seriously since male suicide levels are so high. And, no i am not saying that all male suicides are due to this but it must be a factor to consider.

Hence why i don't think it particularly fair or acceptable for some posters (not you) to mock and ridicule men than are suffering these symptoms.

Comment such as:

madeyemoody
And we all know a man's description of "debilitating" is most likely "mild discomfort "

discobrain
But you know what men are like. Poor fragile things.

VickyEadieofThigh
Honestly, it makes my blood boil as do women sympathising with men who do no more than go through a midlife crisis

Kalpatra
I’m happy to laugh at mock any man who claims to be going through menopause. Because that’d make him an attention-seeming ignorant wanker.

StephanieSuperpowers
It's a tragedy when men get menopause and become useless dried up husks of humanity just waiting to die with their disgusting aging bodies and faces. Nobody could find that attractive and they should put it away.

Megifer
Oh no they get reduced beard growth? How awful.

We shouldn't ridicule anyone who is suffering from things which seriously affects their life. I'm not saying that men suffer from the menopause - but they may suffer from similar symptoms due to falling levels of testosterone

RoseslnTheHospital · 06/02/2023 10:32

Hups · 06/02/2023 08:59

What were the chances of this thread descending into a man v woman competition.

Well 100%. The thread title and the opening post are essentially inviting comment on the topic of whether men feel the need to insert themselves into current discussions about the menopause. So, it was already there in the set up.

Felix125 · 06/02/2023 10:50

Men can't suffer from the menopause - by definition

But they can suffer from similar symptoms due to age related hormone levels

I'm not the one making it men v women - the symptoms suffered by both men & women can be debilitating and should be taken with equal seriousness

But since its just men's health - no one really cares or takes it seriously and prefer to just ridicule like the comments mentioned 2 posts above

StephanieSuperpowers · 06/02/2023 11:09

StephanieSuperpowers
It's a tragedy when men get menopause and become useless dried up husks of humanity just waiting to die with their disgusting aging bodies and faces. Nobody could find that attractive and they should put it away.

Ok, so you didn't like this, but I'll be keeping my eye out for any normal and inevitable life stage that reduces men's social value as menopause does for women.

Felix125 · 06/02/2023 11:33

Anxiety & depression can lead to suicide

Is that enough of a reduction of social value for you.

Or is it just a case men being ".....useless dried up husks of humanity just waiting to die with their disgusting aging bodies and faces...."

Or should we take such symptoms a bit more seriously?

RedAndBlueStripedGolfingUmbrella · 06/02/2023 15:43

Floofydawg · 06/02/2023 08:26

Maybe the fact that you haven't hit it yet is why you're not bothered.

No, still won't be bothered.
Think I've started with peri symptoms already, and don't have it in me to think "hey this is my thing, you can't have it!"
If men have got an equivalent due to age (I wouldn't know, I'm not a doctor or medically minded); then so what?!

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