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Sam Smith's New Music Video

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Oioicaptain · 30/01/2023 15:03

There's been criticism in the press over the sexualisation/borderline pornography on the video. I've just watched it. It just seems pretty misogynistic to me. He appears to smash a wine glass onto a woman's head and then it looks as though the women are being urinated upon (although it's not clear ...maybe it was meant to be champagne). What are other people's interpretation/views on it. I may well be mistaken.

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Xrays · 30/01/2023 16:34

lifeturnsonadime · 30/01/2023 16:32

I agree that it's unkind about his weight.

But it's very interesting you are being careful with to avoid pronouns.

Yes because it’s not the point I’m trying to make.

CassTheFox · 30/01/2023 16:37

It’s meant to be shocking and divide people, surely that’s why they’ve done it, and I do agree it’s getting talked about when it certainly wouldn’t be otherwise, as the song is weak.

Lots of music videos are made to shock, I still remember seeing the Prodigy video on late night MTV in the 1990s and thinking, woah, that packs a punch! You could only see it on late night mtv though, shocking music videos weren’t so readily available then..

Worriedlip · 30/01/2023 16:38

I thought the champagne was meant to be come - as in bukake style

either way it’s embarrassing.

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 30/01/2023 16:39

I don't think it's shocking though.

It's trying hard to be shocking but all it's managing is ridiculously silly.

knittingaddict · 30/01/2023 16:40

JusteanBiscuits · 30/01/2023 15:13

Drag Queen isn't a fetish though

It's not? I'm flabbergasted.

Badger1970 · 30/01/2023 16:40

Absolutely grotesque.

His sexual fetishes are only of interest to himself and his partner, not sure why the rest of us have to have it rammed into our eyeballs.

Put me right off my breakfast seeing it on GMB.

Midge75 · 30/01/2023 16:43

I had a quick look and it does make me cringe - like others have said, to me it's too obviously trying to shock and he just doesn't pull it off. I've always wondered what I would do if I were a pop star, or even an actor doing seductive-type scenes, because I could never ever pull off that sultry look to camera or at another person - I know I would just look ridiculous - and this is exactly what SS looks like - he just can't pull it off - it just looks funny, like he's doing it as a joke. I always wondered if it was just me who can't pull off that sort of thing - Sam Smith has shown me it's definitely not!

ElEmEnOhPee · 30/01/2023 16:43

twitter.com/RickParkin/status/1620064043318001664

Do people REALLY not see the how the imagery is conveying a golden shower? I think the picture in this tweet shows that it's quite obvious that exactly what it is.

Mummyoflittledragon · 30/01/2023 16:43

Glittertwins · 30/01/2023 16:22

I'm surprised it hasn't been given a rating - Duran Duran's Girls on Film was but I'm also surprised that other more recent stuff I've had the misfortune to see was also non rated so I suppose it's all fair.
I'm not watching "that" video as I can't stand it

It should have one. Unfortunately in this ‘progressive’ society, it may not be deemed necessary.

SaltanVinegar · 30/01/2023 16:44

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 30/01/2023 16:39

I don't think it's shocking though.

It's trying hard to be shocking but all it's managing is ridiculously silly.

I feel the same. I’m not shocked, I’m a little grossed out, but mainly think he looks like a big eejit.

Mrsjayy · 30/01/2023 16:44

Oioicaptain · 30/01/2023 15:03

There's been criticism in the press over the sexualisation/borderline pornography on the video. I've just watched it. It just seems pretty misogynistic to me. He appears to smash a wine glass onto a woman's head and then it looks as though the women are being urinated upon (although it's not clear ...maybe it was meant to be champagne). What are other people's interpretation/views on it. I may well be mistaken.

Sam Smith is a creepy Fecker and should keep his sexual fantasies to themselves!

pawprintseverywhere · 30/01/2023 16:45

Can't stand the prick.

Emotionalsupportviper · 30/01/2023 16:47

Flamingogirl08 · 30/01/2023 15:06

Haven't seen it, he is beyond annoying though so I wouldn't bother

This. An attention-seeking twonk.

JohnPrescottsPyjamas · 30/01/2023 16:50

For those of you that are old enough to remember, the Two Ronnies used to do a piss take song each week - usually based on something current and deliberately going over the top for laughs.
Unfortunately, Sam Smith just looks like Ronnie Barker dressed in a basque doing exactly the same. It’s so naff, it’s actually unintentionally hilarious.

Amybelle88 · 30/01/2023 16:51

There's parts of it that are vile.

The thing that shocked me the most was how overweight and unhealthy he looks. I'm not fat shaming I'm hardly skinny myself but I did get a shock because he looks so unhealthy with it.

Wearing nipple tassels on man boobs does nothing for anyone tbh 🤦🏻‍♀️

ChaToilLeam · 30/01/2023 16:54

It’s sleazy, glorifies unpleasant fetishes, and he looks like Rab C Nesbitt dusted in glitter.

Lockheart · 30/01/2023 16:55

Sam Smith is a complete wazzock (IMO) but no-one is forcing you to watch the video (it's not being rammed into anyone's eyeballs), he's by far not the only one to do an explicit video / song (WAP, anyone?), and the fat-shaming on this thread is totally uncalled for.

This is just an excuse to have a go at someone who dresses outside his gender norms really, isn't it. If you have something to say about what he did to the Brits then sure, let's talk about that because it was fecking awful, but a thread full of "eww, he's such a creep, fat ugly loser, pervert" etc is just bullying.

Mummyoflittledragon · 30/01/2023 16:56

JohnPrescottsPyjamas · 30/01/2023 16:50

For those of you that are old enough to remember, the Two Ronnies used to do a piss take song each week - usually based on something current and deliberately going over the top for laughs.
Unfortunately, Sam Smith just looks like Ronnie Barker dressed in a basque doing exactly the same. It’s so naff, it’s actually unintentionally hilarious.

You’ve hit the nail on the head there. They would be considered pretty unPC these days. But we really could do with some mainstream humour again. Too many channels is great but brings along a lot of other issues.

GreenWheat · 30/01/2023 16:57

Ohy God, the bit with him in the white basque 😂
It looks like David Walliams doing one of his piss-takes (if you'll pardon the pun given the conversation!)

StrawberryWater · 30/01/2023 16:59

Can’t stand him but I had a watch of the video and he just looks like a prat. It’s all very sleazy.

The song is rubbish too.

Seasonofthewitch83 · 30/01/2023 16:59

Its not at all shocking, its contrived as all fuck.

Anyone clutching their pearls at this should maybe consider Sam Smith just isnt their cup of tea and go back to watching Countdown or whatever.

Seasonofthewitch83 · 30/01/2023 17:00

Amybelle88 · 30/01/2023 16:51

There's parts of it that are vile.

The thing that shocked me the most was how overweight and unhealthy he looks. I'm not fat shaming I'm hardly skinny myself but I did get a shock because he looks so unhealthy with it.

Wearing nipple tassels on man boobs does nothing for anyone tbh 🤦🏻‍♀️

I mean...you absolutely are fatshaming. At least own your vile opinion.

Ryder68 · 30/01/2023 17:00

1980s, we had young Marilyn and Boy George. Is SS the best of the genre this decade can come up with?

HeadNorth · 30/01/2023 17:00

Pah, it is no more shocking than the 'Welcome to the Pleasure Dome' video by FGTH way back in the 80s - but not such a good song. It's not original, it's all been done before - and better. I wouldn't play into his PR's hands by being shocked.

lifeturnsonadime · 30/01/2023 17:02

This is just an excuse to have a go at someone who dresses outside his gender norms really, isn't it.

No.

It's the normalisation of fetishes.

If he'd just got a frock on you might have a point.