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Sam Smith's New Music Video

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Oioicaptain · 30/01/2023 15:03

There's been criticism in the press over the sexualisation/borderline pornography on the video. I've just watched it. It just seems pretty misogynistic to me. He appears to smash a wine glass onto a woman's head and then it looks as though the women are being urinated upon (although it's not clear ...maybe it was meant to be champagne). What are other people's interpretation/views on it. I may well be mistaken.

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MistressoftheDarkSide · 03/02/2023 09:03

When I originally saw this thread I sort of shrugged and thought "whatever" cos I hadn't seen the video....

Well this morning, by the power of YouTube advertising this video was the first thing I saw.

😳

And I say that as a theatrical type. And a vintage Goth with a toe in the kink scene and a very open mind.

Fuck me, what a waste of sequins. Whoever was supposed to be responsible for the "artistic vision" had too much ket on their cornflakes.....

I suppose as far as young people go, it could be used as an object lesson in poor taste all round.

And honestly who is this Sam person anyway?

Note to "them" precious self - Tim Curry did it first and better. In fact probably the best. Back to cool school for you, pouty pants. Try harder (but preferably don't - just stop).

Not how I envisaged the first five minutes of Friday morning going....

Need more tea and eye bleach.

Mirabai · 03/02/2023 09:07

On the plus side it sent me back to the Rocky Horror soundtrack to sing along.

DesertIslandCondiment · 03/02/2023 09:31

Did anyone see him on Graham Norton? Sam & Graham giggling away, especially when the clip of him crouching in his basque "Oh Oh Oooh".

I think Graham quite liked it.

Mrsjayy · 03/02/2023 09:36

Yes I saw him on Graham Norton but tbf Grahams job is to butter up and laugh along with his guests, Sarah Michelle Geller looked uncomfortable 😳

DesertIslandCondiment · 03/02/2023 09:57

Mrsjayy · 03/02/2023 09:36

Yes I saw him on Graham Norton but tbf Grahams job is to butter up and laugh along with his guests, Sarah Michelle Geller looked uncomfortable 😳

Yes, I suppose he had no choice. Yes, she really did.

Octopusmittens · 03/02/2023 16:44

MistressoftheDarkSide · 03/02/2023 09:03

When I originally saw this thread I sort of shrugged and thought "whatever" cos I hadn't seen the video....

Well this morning, by the power of YouTube advertising this video was the first thing I saw.

😳

And I say that as a theatrical type. And a vintage Goth with a toe in the kink scene and a very open mind.

Fuck me, what a waste of sequins. Whoever was supposed to be responsible for the "artistic vision" had too much ket on their cornflakes.....

I suppose as far as young people go, it could be used as an object lesson in poor taste all round.

And honestly who is this Sam person anyway?

Note to "them" precious self - Tim Curry did it first and better. In fact probably the best. Back to cool school for you, pouty pants. Try harder (but preferably don't - just stop).

Not how I envisaged the first five minutes of Friday morning going....

Need more tea and eye bleach.

Fuck me, what a waste of sequins.

This is the best line of the whole thread, and says it all 😂

HandyLady · 04/02/2023 11:45

I don't think there were any women in the video. They were all men dressed as women. I agree with the OP...the content was pornographic. It's very concerning that children will watch this video. I started a government petition entitled, 'Introduce statutory age ratings for music videos' because of this video. Please sign it because music videos will only get worse if something isn't done to curtail this rampant free-for-all.

Tamarindtree · 04/02/2023 11:54

HandyLady · 04/02/2023 11:45

I don't think there were any women in the video. They were all men dressed as women. I agree with the OP...the content was pornographic. It's very concerning that children will watch this video. I started a government petition entitled, 'Introduce statutory age ratings for music videos' because of this video. Please sign it because music videos will only get worse if something isn't done to curtail this rampant free-for-all.

I agree with you.

I will try and find the petition, sign it and share it in Facebook. Thank you.

Tamarindtree · 04/02/2023 11:57

HandyLady · 04/02/2023 11:45

I don't think there were any women in the video. They were all men dressed as women. I agree with the OP...the content was pornographic. It's very concerning that children will watch this video. I started a government petition entitled, 'Introduce statutory age ratings for music videos' because of this video. Please sign it because music videos will only get worse if something isn't done to curtail this rampant free-for-all.

I found it and have signed it.

HandyLady · 04/02/2023 12:13

Tamarindtree · 04/02/2023 11:57

I found it and have signed it.

Thank you so much! Sadly, it has very few votes. Not enough people take action.

NewUserName2023 · 04/02/2023 18:33

Tim Curry did it better and with more class

justasking111 · 04/02/2023 22:01

Tim Curry was absolutely brilliant. Hell Mrs Doubtfire was better

MeinKraft · 04/02/2023 22:33

bathsh3ba · 01/02/2023 13:59

Not to mention the song is about how unfair it is to be friendzoned - incel anyone?

Just watched him on GN and you and your daughter were right!

Doyoumind · 10/02/2023 14:13

Forget about the video. Just been inadvertently exposed to some other SS images on Twitter. This is total Emperor's New Clothes territory. The people around him are not being honest with him. It's not edgy. It's awful. Some absolutely hilarious takes on Twitter though.

BigMandysBookClub · 10/02/2023 14:34

Do we really know that this is what Sam Smith would want? Record companies push their own ideas. Maybe I'm being naïve.

I won't watch as I don't want to give that sort of thing attention, so I don't know if it is genuinely that grim. Perhaps Madonna, Myley Cyrus, Sam Smith and Rhianna could do a video together? I expect Madonna will be trying to trump Sam smiths efforts soon.

We've just got to not watch it and teach our kids that this sort if thing is desperate and attention seeking and makes you look a bit if a twat.

There will be a parody out soon and I will probably watch that instead.

OneTC · 10/02/2023 14:43

JusteanBiscuits · 30/01/2023 15:12

Where do you all get the idea about it being urine being sprayed??

It's being sprayed out of whatever they were just pissing in

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 10/02/2023 15:49

BigMandysBookClub · 10/02/2023 14:34

Do we really know that this is what Sam Smith would want? Record companies push their own ideas. Maybe I'm being naïve.

I won't watch as I don't want to give that sort of thing attention, so I don't know if it is genuinely that grim. Perhaps Madonna, Myley Cyrus, Sam Smith and Rhianna could do a video together? I expect Madonna will be trying to trump Sam smiths efforts soon.

We've just got to not watch it and teach our kids that this sort if thing is desperate and attention seeking and makes you look a bit if a twat.

There will be a parody out soon and I will probably watch that instead.

Miley Cyrus' last single is lovely.

BigMandysBookClub · 10/02/2023 15:55

OK, I caved and watched it. Though it would be worse going on what was said here.

The thing that bothered me the most was the glassing of someone at the beginning.

The pissing bit is similar to Frankie Goes to Hollywood.

Not bothered about the clothing or lack of, but dislike young people being sexualised like in the Robin Thicke video. Didn't really get that from this.

I think people have forgotten Take That's first music video. Lots of leather thongs and smearing food on each other and a woman mopping jelly off their bare arses! That was Gary Barlow for fucksake.

Agree that it isn't a strong song, so maybe the video needed shock factor.

BigMandysBookClub · 10/02/2023 16:02

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 10/02/2023 15:49

Miley Cyrus' last single is lovely.

Has she calmed down now? I always found her a bit cringey when she was trying the whole outrageous thing years ago.

ImJustMadAboutSaffron · 10/02/2023 16:06

www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-11736229/Former-grid-girl-Leilani-Dowding-hits-praise-Sam-Smiths-video.html

This is interesting, but what has shocked me more than Sam looking like a twonk is the picture of Katie Price. What went wrong, Katie?

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 10/02/2023 16:22

BigMandysBookClub · 10/02/2023 16:02

Has she calmed down now? I always found her a bit cringey when she was trying the whole outrageous thing years ago.

She seems to have. It's called Flowers. look it up on YouTube. It's really good.

tinx · 10/02/2023 16:56

I just had to go watch it … omg I think I vomited a bit

gross is an understatement

Cocobutt · 10/02/2023 17:30

I’ve not seen the video but I’ve just seen this gem.

Tamarindtree · 10/02/2023 17:31

Leilani Dowding -

I remember all those angry women who made sure to ban grid girls and podium girls. Where are their voices
now when
Kids can watch graphic hardcore porn at a touch of a button, and pop stars wriggle around in simulated golden showers..

Me on left doing what’s now banned.
Doing what made me great money and set me up for life...
Sam Smith doing what’s totally fine

Sam Smith's New Music Video
Tamarindtree · 10/02/2023 17:33

Cocobutt · 10/02/2023 17:30

I’ve not seen the video but I’ve just seen this gem.

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