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Sam Smith's New Music Video

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Oioicaptain · 30/01/2023 15:03

There's been criticism in the press over the sexualisation/borderline pornography on the video. I've just watched it. It just seems pretty misogynistic to me. He appears to smash a wine glass onto a woman's head and then it looks as though the women are being urinated upon (although it's not clear ...maybe it was meant to be champagne). What are other people's interpretation/views on it. I may well be mistaken.

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BellePeppa · 30/01/2023 16:18

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ShakespearesBlister · 30/01/2023 16:19

Basically Pat Butcher in a piss dungeon.

K83atie83 · 30/01/2023 16:20

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Couldn't of put i better myself 🤣🤣

35965a · 30/01/2023 16:21

ShakespearesBlister · 30/01/2023 16:19

Basically Pat Butcher in a piss dungeon.

So accurate.

Glittertwins · 30/01/2023 16:22

I'm surprised it hasn't been given a rating - Duran Duran's Girls on Film was but I'm also surprised that other more recent stuff I've had the misfortune to see was also non rated so I suppose it's all fair.
I'm not watching "that" video as I can't stand it

K83atie83 · 30/01/2023 16:22

Sashimito · 30/01/2023 15:21

He just makes me think of Pat Butcher.

Fucking howling now i see it 🤣🤣

HaveYouSeenNancy · 30/01/2023 16:22

It's like the late Mel Smith did a parody of a banned Madonna video in the 90's and someone just found it in the archives.

Elsiebear90 · 30/01/2023 16:22

I don’t have an issue with the theme or the champagne etc I’ve seen much worse in music videos, the problem is that it just doesn’t look good, it’s not stylish, it’s not artistic, it’s not sexy or cool, it’s just cringe. I’m a gay woman myself so it’s nothing to do with homophobia, it’s just not visually appealing to watch. He reminds me of Pat Butcher.

RudsyFarmer · 30/01/2023 16:23

Directly they changed their pronouns i rolled my eyes and kind of switched off from their music. If I hear it on the radio I’ll listen but I’m not seeking it out.

MissFancyDay · 30/01/2023 16:23

OMG what does he look like in that corset thing!!
Relax was genuinely shocking for it's time (and brilliant) It would be beyond Sam Smith's wildest dreams to be banned. Surely people are just laughing at him, sorry them.

EscapeTheCastle · 30/01/2023 16:25

They do say the camera adds 10 pounds.

How many cameras were on him for pity's sake???

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AutumnCrow · 30/01/2023 16:27

LimeTwists · 30/01/2023 15:50

I’m tired of 20 year olds saying that people who object to any of it are transphobic fatphobic old sad old boomers with vanilla sex lives who will regret their criticism of it in twenty years. No. I was living with a transvestite and two gay men at 20. Nothing really shocks me. I still think the video is pointlessly sexual shite. He’s clearly meant to be getting a mouthful of ‘piss’, so yes, that’s arguably too far for a commercial pop video. I think the nipple tassels and corset emphasise his male body in a way that just looks a bit silly and badly dressed, rather than erotic. Madonna’s Justify My Love video did gender bending in a way that was mesmerising.

Some of us 'old farts' ought to do a Memoirs thread called I've seen things you people wouldn't believe, and I reckon I've seen things and experienced things that would make Rutger Hauer blush.

SoMachoHesGottaBe · 30/01/2023 16:27

It’s the most boring, least edgy thing I’ve seen in quite some time. Far too ‘try hard’ but it’s kicked up some controversy so it’s done what it was meant to I guess. Still doesn’t make him any good though.

JusteanBiscuits · 30/01/2023 16:27

Elsiebear90 · 30/01/2023 16:22

I don’t have an issue with the theme or the champagne etc I’ve seen much worse in music videos, the problem is that it just doesn’t look good, it’s not stylish, it’s not artistic, it’s not sexy or cool, it’s just cringe. I’m a gay woman myself so it’s nothing to do with homophobia, it’s just not visually appealing to watch. He reminds me of Pat Butcher.

Yes, it just doesn't look great and isn't sexy!

inigomontoyahwillcox · 30/01/2023 16:28

I'm just confused as to why he's got 2 teabags covering his nipples?

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 30/01/2023 16:28

I took one for the team and watched it.

No one needs to see a tiny todger barely covered in a sock prancing around/

AutumnCrow · 30/01/2023 16:29

inigomontoyahwillcox · 30/01/2023 16:28

I'm just confused as to why he's got 2 teabags covering his nipples?

He's doing it for Yorkshire.

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 30/01/2023 16:29

That chandelier though. Just imagine the fire brigade under it with a tarp in case of an emergency.

Cocolapew · 30/01/2023 16:30

He also had the nerve to say how disappointing it was that no women were shortlisted for a Brit!

Xrays · 30/01/2023 16:30

I don’t think people should be nasty about Sam Smiths weight. SS shouldn’t be misogynistic - and I’m really not a fan- but taking the mick out of SS for being “chubby” and “fat” etc just downgrades peoples moral standpoint. If SS were a woman and people started having a go at their weight people would be the first to complain.

DestinysGrandchild · 30/01/2023 16:32

Just watched it. Wish I hadn't. I want to bleach my eyes.

lifeturnsonadime · 30/01/2023 16:32

Xrays · 30/01/2023 16:30

I don’t think people should be nasty about Sam Smiths weight. SS shouldn’t be misogynistic - and I’m really not a fan- but taking the mick out of SS for being “chubby” and “fat” etc just downgrades peoples moral standpoint. If SS were a woman and people started having a go at their weight people would be the first to complain.

I agree that it's unkind about his weight.

But it's very interesting you are being careful with to avoid pronouns.

ShakespearesBlister · 30/01/2023 16:32

Shades of George Michael, Outside?

Zonder · 30/01/2023 16:32

Ryder68 · 30/01/2023 15:50

How dare you! Pat Butcher was lovely!

😂😂😂