Sam Smith's New Music Video

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There's been criticism in the press over the sexualisation/borderline pornography on the video. I've just watched it. It just seems pretty misogynistic to me. He appears to smash a wine glass onto a woman's head and then it looks as though the women are being urinated upon (although it's not clear ...maybe it was meant to be champagne). What are other people's interpretation/views on it. I may well be mistaken.

It is his piss fetish video that I have an issue with Folly. Hope that helps.

He's a huge bore and a very strange man but each to their own if he makes money off this rubbish well that's his prerogative.
I have always disliked drag or men dressing as women in a way out OTT way I find it distasteful snd deeply mysogynistic and more then anything just very sad

Yes that’s fine, I said the comments about their appearance were uncalled for.

There is nothing remotely healthy or pleasant about his video or appearance.

He is increasingly coming across as someone deeply unhappy and lost , with his ‘weeping on the steps’ video during lockdown to his alleged threatening to sack staff who don’t refer to him as ‘they’.

His performance on Graham Norton’s show, pulling down his top to reveal moobs with nipple pasties was just unpleasant. I hope he decides to take some time out to get away from the madness of the music industry.

Folly. That's a guy with a piss fetish.

It reminded me of this but this has not aged well.

.Sarah Michelle Geller looked uncomfortable sitting next to Sam while he was talking about the video. It was just urgh

Yes, but why does that mean we have to rip their appearance to shreds?

Question and debate the video, the clothes, their opinions and actions. But why on earth are we tearing a person’s appearance to shreds? It really isn’t necessary and weakens the other points being made about violence, fetishes etc.

I just think the thread shouldn’t focus on a person’s appearance. Should fat hairy people not be allowed to have careers in entertainment? Should they hide their bodies in case other people are repulsed?

I'm sorry I misgendered a man. It was the frock.

It's satire. I got caught too. Look at the username

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Well I just hope they them their are proud of they them their selves!

I just watched him on Graham Norton and he came over quite well - able to take a ribbing from Rob Beckett.
I am plus size myself. I loved Dietland and I watched Shrill. Brendan Fraser has just been Oscar nominated wearing a fat suit in The Whale (I shall try to reserve judgement til I have seen it). I am all too aware of the focus on looks but I also agree that the body positivity movement can go too far the other way.
Sam has found a vehicle for dealing with his self-image and esteem. He has been friendzoned a lot allegedly. Given some members of the gay community like hirsute (bears) and bigger blokes (chubby chasing), I am sure he will find someone now he is putting himself out there.
Whether shaking moobs with heart pasties is shocking or not - not really, but nor is it necessary. Like Madge on Jimmy Fallon's desk or when Miley kept sticking her tongue out, it comes over as attention-seeking rather than art.
But I'm not the demographic.
If Madge's antics are calling out ageism and Sam's are calling out sizeist trolls, the message is being lost a little in translation.
I sound like a prude with put 'em away but less is sometimes more. As for body positivity, it is all well and good until you end up with non-alcoholic fatty liver disease which iirc George Michael died from.

HER frock you TERF (to paraphrase Ricky Gervaise)

THEIR frock I believe you'll find 😉

Love it or hate it, whatever, but I don't I understand the 'wouldn't show it to/not appropriate for my child'

Um no, why would it be? The majority of mainstream music is aimed at adults, what a weird take

It’s not his appearance it’s his womanface.

Eddie Izzard can bugger off too.

I know it's supposed to be effortless sleaze chic but it looks overworked, overdone, and frankly, the kind of thing that makes people say they have work in the morning.

They look like they are seeking an audience. Mr Blobby could have arrived in a jewel encrusted jockstrap - the Noel's house party of eroticism.

Well, if he dresses like a complete and utter fetishist and opening up kids to the joys of drinking someone else's piss, then why shouldn't people debate what he is doing?

And there's only one of him. Thankfully.

Yeah SS was much cooler before he went down the sleazy route. The new video is not very sexy - not because of how SS looks but the whole thing is just way too OTT to actually be sexy.

The Unholy song was problematic too. Who wants to listen to songs about a husband cheating with hookers or whatever it was was it meant to be sexy too?!

Sam smith is not a plural he's one man

You can't misgender a man with a penis! He's a man.

Honestly it's maddness!

I'm so with you on those 2 points. The song is sooo bad!
And the video is... yawn.

Worse thing about it is despite all the positivity/sexy new me message Sam Smith looks very uncomfortable throughout.
It's not sexy, it's not edgy, it's just all a little embarrassing.

I rewatched the video with my 16 year old and she couldn't even sit through the whole thing.
Song- terrible. Video-meh.

It was the swinging from the chandelier that got me 😂😂

I’m a little bit tired of saying this now but for the final time, as I said above, it’s fine to debate their actions and their clothes, but I think nasty comments about their weight and body hair are both inappropriate and also cheapens the arguments people are making about things like fetishising and violence.

How odd. Normally messages from MNHQ are a different colour to other messages on my device, but this one is the same as all the other posters.