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Sam Smith's New Music Video

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Oioicaptain · 30/01/2023 15:03

There's been criticism in the press over the sexualisation/borderline pornography on the video. I've just watched it. It just seems pretty misogynistic to me. He appears to smash a wine glass onto a woman's head and then it looks as though the women are being urinated upon (although it's not clear ...maybe it was meant to be champagne). What are other people's interpretation/views on it. I may well be mistaken.

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LexMitior · 31/01/2023 12:29

It's not revolutionary to wear nipple tassels. Nor is it radical to look like a bin liner of yoghurt.

Self awareness is sexy, selfishness is not.

afty · 31/01/2023 15:38

He's irritating as fuck and just does this sort of stuff for attention. Good or bad.

Greenfairydust · 31/01/2023 18:00

@NotAnotherBathBomb ·''Just faux concern.''

That is your reading of what is said and it happens to be inaccurate. Faux outrage...

Aspergirl77 · 31/01/2023 19:07

I think I just got a bit of vomit in my mouth 🤮

shouldhavetakenmorenotice · 31/01/2023 19:23

Finally watched a bit of it.

They've put an awfully lot of effort in to disguise what is an incredibly vapid song.

Also I don't care if I'm flamed for it. You might want to have a spray tan Sam love, if you go down the silver and white costume route again, It washes your man boobs out at the moment.

shouldhavetakenmorenotice · 31/01/2023 19:24

You know the stylists were doing 'you do you qween!' to his face and muttering about porridge in a zip-loc bag behind his back.

OliveToboogie · 31/01/2023 19:36

Can't stand him. Won't be watching. Looks ridiculous. Trying so hard to stay relevant.

DesertIslandCondiment · 31/01/2023 19:36

shouldhavetakenmorenotice · 31/01/2023 19:23

Finally watched a bit of it.

They've put an awfully lot of effort in to disguise what is an incredibly vapid song.

Also I don't care if I'm flamed for it. You might want to have a spray tan Sam love, if you go down the silver and white costume route again, It washes your man boobs out at the moment.

But we aren't allowed to comment how revolting THEY look.

Wowjustwow99 · 31/01/2023 19:40

I don't like him!

A few years ago, he fat shamed someone on social media, laughing and being dame right rude about the lady. He soon took it down when everyone said it was nasty.

I have no time for him or his music since.

JuvenileEmu · 31/01/2023 19:45

Could someone with teenage children sit down with them and put the video on? I really want to hear how they react. Unless teenagers have changed entirely in the last couple of decades it must surely be cringing in horror?

DesertIslandCondiment · 31/01/2023 19:48

JuvenileEmu · 31/01/2023 19:45

Could someone with teenage children sit down with them and put the video on? I really want to hear how they react. Unless teenagers have changed entirely in the last couple of decades it must surely be cringing in horror?

I would have my messaged deleted if I put what my teenage lad would say. I woul agree with him.

shouldhavetakenmorenotice · 31/01/2023 19:49

@DesertIslandCondiment to be fair you can't really be bitchy about anything any more.

I work in a phenomenally bitchy industry and the things I used to be able to say would get me fired now.

Joan Rivers wouldn't last five minutes these days.

Pearfacebanana · 31/01/2023 19:56

I haven't watched it and don't intend to

If anyone here follows Nohun on Instagram his critique of it is worth watching "not all queers are like this Sam, it's all about you"

Tamarindtree · 31/01/2023 19:59

shouldhavetakenmorenotice · 31/01/2023 19:49

@DesertIslandCondiment to be fair you can't really be bitchy about anything any more.

I work in a phenomenally bitchy industry and the things I used to be able to say would get me fired now.

Joan Rivers wouldn't last five minutes these days.

Facts and truth have been renamed bitchy, unfortunately.

Stating that someone is morbidly obese is a fact.

CryInToYourCornflakesNicola · 31/01/2023 20:08

Wowjustwow99 · 31/01/2023 19:40

I don't like him!

A few years ago, he fat shamed someone on social media, laughing and being dame right rude about the lady. He soon took it down when everyone said it was nasty.

I have no time for him or his music since.

I don't much like Sam either, when Sam declared Sam Smith's self wants to be a mummy at age 35 that really put me off Sam Smith.

metro.co.uk/2020/10/27/sam-smith-wants-to-be-mummy-in-the-future-as-they-address-the-struggles-of-changing-pronouns-its-really-difficult-13487851/

Octopusmittens · 31/01/2023 20:22

shouldhavetakenmorenotice · 31/01/2023 19:24

You know the stylists were doing 'you do you qween!' to his face and muttering about porridge in a zip-loc bag behind his back.

😂😂😂

unique78 · 31/01/2023 20:23

Sam Smith looks like someone who was plucked out of the queue in B & M, put in a posing pouch, and told to look seductive. It's a no from me.

mum2jakie · 31/01/2023 20:39

Can anyone repost the naked rat picture please? Am still giggling about it

AlwaysGinPlease · 31/01/2023 20:46

Pearfacebanana · 31/01/2023 19:56

I haven't watched it and don't intend to

If anyone here follows Nohun on Instagram his critique of it is worth watching "not all queers are like this Sam, it's all about you"

Nohun is brilliant. Great video .

Mirabai · 31/01/2023 20:51

shouldhavetakenmorenotice · 31/01/2023 19:24

You know the stylists were doing 'you do you qween!' to his face and muttering about porridge in a zip-loc bag behind his back.

Quite.

TheFrozenCanal · 31/01/2023 21:02

I used to like Sam Smith.

Rainbowclimbinghigh · 31/01/2023 21:49

latetothefisting · 30/01/2023 17:20

Just because you don't see "the spray" coming from a penis doesn't mean that's not what's being inferred. It's the same as if there was one shot of someone aiming a can of whipped cream and then another shot of someone getting a spray of thick white stuff over their face (please tell me I don't have to explain that one to you too 😅) - yes the "stated" interpretation is that the persons getting whipped cream to the face but there's obviously another element to it!

Please tell me you don't actually believe "anaconda" isn't about a snake that only eats bread rolls?

Media that has an "innocent" version of a sexual theme is very much a thing! While young kids who have never heard of golden showers/urine play probably wouldn't make the connection its the subliminal element/bringing kink into the mainstream people are concerned about. If people want to do things in private between consenting adults go for it, but making it mainstream has consequences- e.g. the "rough sex" especially choking from pork being used so often in murder cases.

I agree with the posters saying that all the fat shaming is unnecessary and irrelevant though.

This. And @JusteanBiscuits if you look closely (actually, don't), you'll see that the 'machines' are actually urinals!! Still not clear that it's urine?!

I think boys especially would be able to tell that the 'streams' are meant to look like urine 🤢

DesertIslandCondiment · 31/01/2023 21:58

They are making money out of this rubbish. Who are actually supporting them?

Rainbowclimbinghigh · 31/01/2023 22:02

NotAnotherBathBomb · 30/01/2023 21:36

Love it or hate it, whatever, but I don't I understand the 'wouldn't show it to/not appropriate for my child'

Um no, why would it be? The majority of mainstream music is aimed at adults, what a weird take Confused

Surely 'pop' music is more for children/teens than adults?! Didn't we all religiously watch TOTP on a Thursday/Friday night as kids? I don't know half of what's 'in' nowadays, I usually listen to Absolute Radio 90s 🤣

TheFrozenCanal · 01/02/2023 06:44

I agree that children are going to see this. And honestly, I can't say I see the benefit of it artistically either.

On the point that Sam has clearly regained his original weight loss - just to say first that I have not lost the baby weight, and am bmi 30 - pretty much every woman in that video is thin. I also believe in, as a bmi 30 woman, dressing for your weight, and that white number is pretty frightening at any weight. Add the beard and fashion-wise, it's not working for me.

Then there are questions around the CONSTANT cross dressing of these stars. Why? What does it achieve? Years ago a man might have dressed as a woman. He put the clothes on and went about his business. End. This video is clearly trying to provoke, and since most of his audience are women from children upwards, I'm not sure what his goal is. If his goal, let's say, is to make himself feel more "comfortable", why push it in such a, for want of a better word, disgusting way? Children view his work. He ought to keep his private life and his work separate to some degree - the rest of us have to.

Final point, didn't Sam claim, in stay with me, that he was "just a man"?

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