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Naked children in mixed changing rooms-am I pearl clutching?

212 replies

AutisticLegoLover · 26/01/2023 16:38

Ds is 8 and goes to swimming lessons at a local pool. It's mixed changing. Just lately there's always been children aged around 5 showering naked after their swim. It's an open shower area with no cubicles. So when you walk in they are there in your line of vision. The changing room is full of all ages from babies to the elderly. Ds commented today that he doesn't want to see naked people. Surely it's inappropriate to be showering your dc naked in a mixed setting? Or am I clutching?

OP posts:
DillDanding · 26/01/2023 22:16

Very, very precious. I wouldn’t bat an eyelid.

Cantseethewindows · 26/01/2023 22:19

Am I the only who finds it waaaaaay more problematic that there is a mixed sex changing room for all ages??? Surely changing necessitates being naked, so people of all ages and both sexes would be naked in view of others? That I would feel uncomfortable with, my barely school aged kids I'd just tell that it's not always appropriate to run around naked!

yellowtwo · 26/01/2023 23:25

ImmigrantAlice · 26/01/2023 21:51

You absolutely are if you are talking about five year-olds, little children.

Is this a religious thing?

Op said "It's mixed changing" ...."The changing room is full of all ages from babies to the elderly"

yellowtwo · 26/01/2023 23:28

Cantseethewindowsm
I the only who finds it waaaaaay more problematic that there is a mixed sex changing room for all ages???
Going by a lot of posts, people are replying but haven't read OPs post in which she says these are mixed sex all ages changing rooms.

Upsidedownagain · 26/01/2023 23:46

A mixed changing room isn't uncommon. At our local public pool there are also lots of cubicles and nowhere really to get changed outside of them - obviously, since it's mixed. But some of the showers are poolside and in full view of everyone, others in another area, one with a door.

willstarttomorrow · 27/01/2023 00:28

Never go to Holland, Germany or Scandinavia. They are obviously all deveints as nudity is just accepted and in fact any swimming costume clad person will be chased out of the sauna due to hygiene.......I am sure children in the UK are far safer because rather than being sensible and pragmatic loads of people just see risk everywhere rather than manage it.

Ericaequites · 27/01/2023 01:52

@Itsnotallblackandwhite in the United States, even toddler girls wear bathing suit tops. It doesn’t make a lot of sense, but it’s expected. A mixed sex changing room would never fly here. It’s just inappropriate. Yes, we are puritanical. What else would you expect?

Led92 · 27/01/2023 02:10

Cantseethewindows · 26/01/2023 22:19

Am I the only who finds it waaaaaay more problematic that there is a mixed sex changing room for all ages??? Surely changing necessitates being naked, so people of all ages and both sexes would be naked in view of others? That I would feel uncomfortable with, my barely school aged kids I'd just tell that it's not always appropriate to run around naked!

Although mixed there’s typically cubicles for actually changing.

thirdtimeluckyorwhat · 27/01/2023 07:35

Led92 · 26/01/2023 22:01

Why would people shower DC’s naked when any weirdo could be in the changing rooms. And any camera can be tiny.

It’s not about being offended by the DC’s it’s about being aware of safeguarding in a f*cked up society where images of children are widely shared online.

Your DC has good instincts not to like it, the children shouldn’t be naked.

And btw I agree it’s rubbish and sad but it’s the world we live in.

This this this one hundred percent.

StubbleAndSqueak · 27/01/2023 08:08

Christ @MasterBeth , what are you on ??? I've certainly got under your skin for whatever questionable reason Hmm

thirdtimeluckyorwhat · 27/01/2023 08:31

supersonicginandtonic · 26/01/2023 21:48

@thirdtimeluckyorwhat no need to be so rude! I am extremely experienced with safeguarding and my partner is a senior probation officer working with sex offenders. You don't work in safeguarding you have no clue.

Your telling me what you wrote is true when you see no safeguarding issue in children showering naked in a public changing room. Yeah ok jog on love

WendyAndClyde · 27/01/2023 08:55

no need to be so rude! I am extremely experienced with safeguarding and my partner is a senior probation officer working with sex offenders. You don't work in safeguarding you have no clue

Your partner is a senior probation officer working with sex offenders, and you think he thinks this is ok?

I don't think so. Either he's (or she) shit at his job, he doesn't work in safeguarding, or you didn't actually ask him what he thought.

And what is it exactly you safeguard, with all your safeguarding experience?

Phos · 27/01/2023 09:06

bythere · 26/01/2023 19:46

What do you mean by "mixed changing", though? Same sex except for young children but just different ages? Certainly not adults together, I would believe. If it's only very young children of the opposite sex that's one thing.

I thought most swimming pools were mixed changing now.

ThreeblackCats · 27/01/2023 09:09

I do wonder sometimes, are these threads written just to get into the Daily Mail?

Teach your child not to look at naked people if he finds them offensive. They are children, it’s not offensive.

Devoutspoken · 27/01/2023 09:14

Yeah it's a bit odd this all started with the offended senses of an 8 year old!

AutisticLegoLover · 27/01/2023 09:19

I'd already said I'm obviously clutching a few posts in but just to clarify:

Nowhere have I said it was offensive.

The changing room is one big area for both sexes of all ages. There are cubicles to get changed in but the shower area is open so you have both sexes of all ages in the showers and open are at the same time. You have to walk past the showers to get to the cubicles. The children are going between the showers and cubicles naked. The changing room is really busy with staff returning children to parents/grandparents after their lesson and collecting those starting lessons. The staff are in there checking the facilities/cleaning etc,

I wouldn't want the general public seeing my dc naked and was surprised that other people were ok with it.

OP posts:
Devoutspoken · 27/01/2023 09:26

But your ds thinks it's offensive

takealettermsjones · 27/01/2023 09:31

WendyAndClyde · 27/01/2023 08:55

no need to be so rude! I am extremely experienced with safeguarding and my partner is a senior probation officer working with sex offenders. You don't work in safeguarding you have no clue

Your partner is a senior probation officer working with sex offenders, and you think he thinks this is ok?

I don't think so. Either he's (or she) shit at his job, he doesn't work in safeguarding, or you didn't actually ask him what he thought.

And what is it exactly you safeguard, with all your safeguarding experience?

I don't think so. Either he's (or she) shit at his job, he doesn't work in safeguarding, or you didn't actually ask him what he thought.

Or..... s/he just disagrees with you.

Why are so many people on this site unable to disagree without insulting others/suggesting they are thick etc?

WendyAndClyde · 27/01/2023 09:36

takealettermsjones · 27/01/2023 09:31

I don't think so. Either he's (or she) shit at his job, he doesn't work in safeguarding, or you didn't actually ask him what he thought.

Or..... s/he just disagrees with you.

Why are so many people on this site unable to disagree without insulting others/suggesting they are thick etc?

I didn't suggest they were thick. Clearly you must be thinking they are though to read that into my comment.

takealettermsjones · 27/01/2023 09:53

WendyAndClyde · 27/01/2023 09:36

I didn't suggest they were thick. Clearly you must be thinking they are though to read that into my comment.

😆 nice try. I have already said what my opinion is on this issue, so no I don't think supersonicginandtonic is thick.

The difference, though, is that if I did disagree with her, I wouldn't automatically assume that a) her partner is shit at their job or b) she is lying about what her partner does/having asked them.

I can see that you didn't call her thick; I was making a general comment. I'll make a direct one, though: why can't you disagree with her without assuming her partner is shit at their job or that she is lying?

WendyAndClyde · 27/01/2023 10:19

why can't you disagree with her without assuming her partner is shit at their job or that she is lying?

Because a probation officer or someone who genuinely had considerable work experience and knowledge of safeguarding / assessing risk would not say this.

newnamethanks · 27/01/2023 10:29

On a lovely summers day in Kew Gardens I changed my 6 month old son's nappy. This was back in the day before disposables so took a few moments in which he was naked on his back. Someone 1. Noticed and 2. Dispatched a Royal Parks policeman to tell me how offensive this was. He was incredibly embarassed as he mumbled I'd be let off this time but if I did it again, my family would be escorted out. Some people haven't got enough to do with their time.

takealettermsjones · 27/01/2023 11:30

WendyAndClyde · 27/01/2023 10:19

why can't you disagree with her without assuming her partner is shit at their job or that she is lying?

Because a probation officer or someone who genuinely had considerable work experience and knowledge of safeguarding / assessing risk would not say this.

someone who genuinely had considerable work experience and knowledge of safeguarding / assessing risk would not say this

You're incorrect.

Devoutspoken · 27/01/2023 13:06

What ever, throwing insults doesn't help the debate

MrsSkylerWhite · 27/01/2023 13:07

They’re 5. Get over yourself.

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