Out of date Kyiv

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I have a chicken Kyiv that I was planning to eat tonight for dinner, however, just noticed the date on it is 20th of January. Is this still okay to eat or should I bin?

It’s an English transliteration of the Russian pronunciation. I’ve no idea if they speak Ukrainian or not, most speak pretty decent English and as I speak neither Ukrainian or Russian and I’m not going to ask them it’s irrelevant. It’s just being nice to pronounce their capital the way they say it, supportive to people who’ve had to flee their country. If that makes me a virtue signalling wanker then I’m happy to be one.

I’d also not eat out of date chicken, I can’t see the point in risking being ill.

Google told me the dish originates from France not Ukraine.

Would I eat out of date chicken? No.

I might feed it to the kids though.

If it was due to expire yesterday it is fine today. Manufacturers give themselves a nice bit of leeway.

Call it what you want but choose tactfully depending on who you have invited to the table.

It isn’t something I’d normally have, but we bought a packet in the summer, just because, and renamed them Kyivs, because we are like that and have the luxury of not living in the range of difficult conditions the relatives are living under in Ukraine.

no, you referred to people feeling good about themselves.

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yes, the places have been renamed. I referred to the things

This thread is utterly bonkers.

That's the Russian spelling, since the 23 invasion most English companies are respecting the Ukrainian spelling.

Everyone knows food goes off at 11.59 pm on the date on the packet. It’s life-threatening to eat it even a minute later.

The thing hasn’t been renamed either!

2022 invasion sorry. And to explain further why we should say Kyiv: It's like ignoring Mumbai because you grew up calling it Bombay or ignoring Beijing in favour of Peking. Basically respect the people who live there and try to not reinforce colonialism if you can manage it.

She’s right. If it’s a day out and smells fine, it’s clearly fine.

Eat it. It is one day out of date, it will be fine.

I don’t care wham if people change the name of garlic stuffed chicken or not - but the point is it’s the name of the dish not the city. Saying Bombay mix or Bombay Sapphire Gin or Peking Duck doesn’t make you a screaming colonialist does it.

No, @Luredbyapomegranate, it doesn’t. There seems to be something of a category error going on.

Yes it has. The chicken thing has

Yeh feeling good about “campaigning” to change to the Ukrainian spelling, eg
www.independent.co.uk/life-style/food-and-drink/chicken-kiev-kyiv-ukraine-russia-war-b2027660.html?amp

Where I live (area of London) there are a lot of people from affected areas - whether Russia, Ukraine or Eastern Europe - so it doesn't feel like virtue signalling so much as making a tiny change to make people feel a bit more comfy

There are Ukrainians/Eastern Europeans who don't give a crap but equally there are those who do

This is curious. My son has just asked me the same question (his are also kyivs not kievs).

Oscar is that you?

so did I 😂🤦‍♂️

i think you should have put chicken in your title, along with the kiev or kyiv or whatever

I think that worry about the names and pronunciations of things is quite a British thing, in my observation anyway. I was always a bit amused by the pains the BBC go to spitting in their throats to say Macron Frenchly (but with the emphasis wrong) while France24 called Boris Johnson, "BoreezhonSON". And the Russian media call Biden "Yosip Baydin".

Oh god I LOVE chicken Kiev! Unfortunately I'm now severely allergic to garlic, so just on here for descriptions and hopefully photos 😃