Out of date Kyiv

[hadntbeen]

I have a chicken Kyiv that I was planning to eat tonight for dinner, however, just noticed the date on it is 20th of January. Is this still okay to eat or should I bin?

Tbf @hadntbeen if you're going to eat it with baked beans you simply don't deserve Kyiv/Kiev/garlic butterstuffed chicken so it doesn't matter if it's in or out of date.

It means saying things to make yourself look good rather than because you actually care.

I can’t speak for @JassyRadlett - but I read their comment to mean that it’s reached a point where those shouting “virtue signalling” do so as a way of saying “Look at me, I am beyond such petty matters of what is/isn’t offensive” - which in itself is sort of an odd form of virtue signalling.

No, I just think it's twatty.

Have those things actually been re-named then? if not then it really isn't the same thing at all is it?

Are you thinking of chicken supreme?

I do genuinely feel uncomfortable calling it Bombay mix

I haven't had this dish for a while, but when I did, I always channelled the old TV advert and shouted up the stairs: "Mini Kievs!" when it was ready to serve.

I don't think I could shout Kyivs in quite the same way.

I think the sauce on wankery supreme is creamier.

😂

However you spell it, it's not pronounced Keeeeeeeeeeve. And I notice they still say Lugansk on the BBC.

OP may not have any buns to throw about, but maybe some Keeve cake?

Lots of Indian people, including those living in the city, still do call it Bombay. I don’t think there is any need to anguish over it. Wasn’t it named by the Portuguese as Bom Bahia back in the 17th century when it was just a collection of swampy islands (although I think a variety of similar names were used down to Bombay). The change to Mumbai came at the insistence of the Marathi nationalist Shiv Sena party, a very sinister bunch, which won the Maharashtra state elections in 1995. It asserts the Marathis as the true people of the state to the exclusion of other groups. It was anything but a neutral reversion to an pre-colonial name.

Sorry, that was replying to @yousmellnice .

Given the current situation wankery virtue signalling is exactly what it is. The name of chicken kiev is neither here nor there, Putin’s hardly going to be like, lads let’s knock this on the head, they’ve only gone and renamed chicken kievs. People can feel like they’re “supporting Ukraine” despite actually doing nothing and nice bit of PR for Sainsbury’s.

Referring to something by the name on the pack isn't "virtue signalling"

I was referring to changing the name in the first place.

Why don’t we call Germany ‘Deutschland’ or China ‘Zhōngguó’?

Thank you x

Sorry to derail your thread, OP, please eat the chicken if it passes the sniff test!

I actually do find the language wrangling interesting.

On the question OP asked I’m also confused and use dates for chicken (not so bothered with other things). I’d find it easier with plain raw chicken. People saying sniff or look what am I looking out for on something breaded and garlic inside?

We’ve a lot of Ukrainians where I stay, I’d feel uncomfortable using Kiev now. It’s not virtue signalling, it’s being respectful.

But Kiev isn't Russian spelling, it's an English transliteration. By the same rule, we ought to say "Moskva" instead of Moscow and it would be disrespectful to say the "s" at the end of Paris.

Also, a lot of your Ukrainians (especially if they come from the East) probably don't even speak Ukrainian as a general rule!

Yes they all have. Bombay is Mumbai. Peking is Beijing. Burma is Myanmar. Kiev may be “Kyiv” but that doesn’t change the name of the dish!

By the way, Kiev and Kyiv are both romanisations. Therefore neither is technically right.