AIBU?
To not want to drive?
Annie802 · 19/01/2023 11:23
My partner has booked us to go see his friends 300 miles away for a big night out as part of his birthday, I’m a new driver and while I’m comfortable on the motorway I haven’t driven further than 30 miles yet. No reason for not doing it I just haven’t needed to and have a very young baby so only recently feel more confident on the roads.
He didn’t ask me to drive , just assumed that I would drive us there even though I’d prefer to get the train. He doesn’t drive so that’s not an option.
As it’s part of his birthday and he booked hotel (I’m on statutory pay on maternity leave and can’t afford it) I thought ok fine I’ll drive.
We had a miscommunication where I thought we were staying two nights, so one day driving up there, we drop off our baby at his parents and then we go to the next town which is another hour-hour and a half away to meet his friends for a big night out. I thought we would have an extra night to relax after and get over any hangover and then I would drive us back.
He now says no he booked one night, and expects me to drive all the way there, drop off baby, go to his friends, have a big night out, then the next day get our baby and drive home!
I’ve never driven that far before and I’m extremely nervous but he doesn’t see the issue at all. I won’t be able to enjoy the night out either as I now have to really watch what I drink, and he goes back to work the day after we get back.
he won’t pay for the train and I can’t afford the train for both of us, and he won’t take a day off extra from work so we can stay two nights to ease the travel time.
AIBU to just say no to this now? Or should I just drive us and do it.
Am I being unreasonable?
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Chatachukchatter · 19/01/2023 13:15
I regularly drive long distance
Suggestions
Check the air in your tyres before you travel & water in the car washer. Fill up with petrol before you get on the motorway, because fuel is extortionate price on the motorway
It's much easier to drive during daylight at this time of year
Take food, drink, warm clothes, in your car incase the motorway gets closed & you can be stuck for hours
Do you have breakdown cover like AA or RAC
dottiedodah · 19/01/2023 13:15
On a separate note ,why cant his parents come and see the baby? No doubt they dont fancy the drive either! He is being very immature and putting yours and the babys safety at risk
Steakandquinoa · 19/01/2023 13:17
No way. I can't add anything that hasn't already been said. I did a drive like that once with my two young children, and I promised myself NEVER again! Faaar too dangerous-my brain was fried. He needs to learn to drive so you can share the visits to his parents, or understand you will need at least a day to recover before you do the return journey.
I hope you can find the confidence to say no, because you've got goodness knows how many Mumsnetters standing beside you in agreement.
WhereYouLeftIt · 19/01/2023 13:17
I'm a confident driver of 30 years standing, and I used to regularly go up and down the motorway from the Midlands to Scotland, about 320-350 miles each way. I ONCE went up for one night only, and I was never fool enough to do it again! I was exhausted and it took me several days to feel right again. And that was as a single childless woman who could fully relax after that very taxing drive.
At heart, your partner is a total wanker. He can't be bothered to learn to drive. He doesn't like doing housework. He chooses not to understand why you don't want to make this MASSIVE trip. I mean, what is the point of him? What is the point of a partner who sees you only in terms of what you can do for him and not vice versa?
It's very telling that you have a new baby. The pressure of this point in your life tends to show you all to clearly the cracks that were already there. I'm sure he's always been a selfish prick, but it didn't impact you before to the same extent, so his good qualities outweighed the selfishness. But now - raising a baby needs to be a team effort and he is refusing to be a team player. His selfishness is on display front and centre, and it can be a bit of a shocker, can't it?
Selfish pricks love to exploit situations in their favour, and the situation he thinks he can exploit here is - he thinks you're now trapped in this relationship because you now have a baby together. You're not trapped. You will always have a shared child with this man, but you are NOT trapped in this relationship. Relationships end. Especially when one party chooses to treat the other party badly.
"He still doesn’t get it and now I’m feeling guilty because now he’s saying his parents won’t get to see our baby. I feel shit"
He wants you to feel shit, he's trying to manipulate you to agree to his shitty non-starter of a 'plan'. If he really wanted his parents to see the baby he'd take the train. Or invite them to visit. But no, no - the woman who's recently given birth is to exhaust herself at his behest, chauffeur him to the door and to hell with whether or not such a long time in a carseat is any good for the baby, just so long as he can present himself to his parents as a man who is fertile and has a subservient woman at his beck and call! Really - fuck him and his parents<shrugs>. You have nothing to feel guilty about. He does, but selfish pricks are incapable of feeling guilt for their selfish behaviour.
Bottom line - see him for the bully and the prick that he is and tell him 'no', that is a ridiculous amount of driving he expects you and the baby to shoulder. And have a good think about this relationship, because it frankly isn't working for you.
WeRateSquirrels · 19/01/2023 13:17
You are not being unreasonable AT ALL. I essentially did this for a university open day last year, without the night out and the baby. It was fine, but knackering, and I've been driving over 30 years. Also it was summer, so long days and no chance of bad weather.
Don't do it, he's being a dick.
Shinyandnew1 · 19/01/2023 13:18
His parents can come and visit you, can’t they? Or are you the only person he knows who can drive a car?
Sunny1234567 · 19/01/2023 13:19
I've been driving for a while and I would not want to go this at all. Sleep deprivation plus baby, no thanks. Not a great combination for a long drive.
Bedazzled22 · 19/01/2023 13:20
You are not being unreasonable but he definitely is. Ive been driving 35 years and wouldnt would fancy that and certainly not with a baby. Is he always unreasonable?
BunchHarman · 19/01/2023 13:20
What? He’s stroppy with you when the lazy cunt can’t even be bothered to learn to drive? Prick.
I bet he does fuck all in every other aspect of your lives, and due to the fact that he’s given no consideration to dumping a baby in the car for hours, I bet he does fuck all with them, too.
katmarie · 19/01/2023 13:22
If you're on mat leave, the baby must still be young. So, there are limits to how long they should be in a car seat for their own safety. Some organisations recommend no more than 2 hours at a time. Some even say no more than 2 hours in 24. Plus, they will need feeds and changing etc. 300 miles without stopping in the uk is a 6 hour drive if you're lucky, and it's mainly motorways. Add in the stops you would need for even a 6 month old baby, the odd bit of traffic or roadworks, and you're looking at it taking more like 8 or more hours. For a smaller baby, you would need to stop every 30 minutes or so, and that makes the journey impossible and frankly dangerous for baby imo.
And then do the same again the following day. When tired. With a cranky baby who has spent the night in an unfamiliar place. No way. Purely from the baby's perspective, it's dangerous and irresponsible.
To ask you to do that, and to expect you to pay as well, is the height of cheeky fuckery, and I would be thinking hard about what value this arse really brings to my life if I were you.
WhereYouLeftIt · 19/01/2023 13:22
NewFoxOldTricks · 19/01/2023 13:01
How much are you planning to drink that you won't be able to drive the next day??
Quite the accusation there!
tryihd · 19/01/2023 13:24
If you will be drinking till late, you need to aware of drink driving.
autumn1610 · 19/01/2023 13:24
I’m surprised not many people are even talking about the fact you will likely be over the limit in the morning when you need to check out the hotel, if you’re having a big night out. It’s actually really surprising how long it takes to get out your system totally. (We had a H&S call at work before Christmas and I was shocked with the time as they did a thing on it with parties etc) anyway if I had a baby in the car I would want to know I had no alcohol in my system, maybe you won’t feel the same and will just want to be under the limit (not judging) so you won’t be able to drive depending on what you drink until the afternoon most likely. Then a 300mile drive with regular stops for baby….absolutely not. Give him 3 options, train, hotel an extra night or find your own way im not going
www.confused.com/car-insurance/morning-after-calculator
ZeldaWillTellYourFortune · 19/01/2023 13:25
Ridiculous of him.
I've bern driving 40 years & really enjoy it, and I wouldn't do that. Period.
Not to mention subjecting your baby to that much time strapped into its seat.
SpaceshiptoMars · 19/01/2023 13:25
This man isn't your partner is he? He thinks he's a slave owner, and you are his slave.
pinkpotatoez · 19/01/2023 13:25
You won't have even cleared the alcohol out of your system if you drink spirits. If you got pulled over you'd be done so YANBU
Walrussy · 19/01/2023 13:26
WhereYouLeftIt · 19/01/2023 13:17
I'm a confident driver of 30 years standing, and I used to regularly go up and down the motorway from the Midlands to Scotland, about 320-350 miles each way. I ONCE went up for one night only, and I was never fool enough to do it again! I was exhausted and it took me several days to feel right again. And that was as a single childless woman who could fully relax after that very taxing drive.
At heart, your partner is a total wanker. He can't be bothered to learn to drive. He doesn't like doing housework. He chooses not to understand why you don't want to make this MASSIVE trip. I mean, what is the point of him? What is the point of a partner who sees you only in terms of what you can do for him and not vice versa?
It's very telling that you have a new baby. The pressure of this point in your life tends to show you all to clearly the cracks that were already there. I'm sure he's always been a selfish prick, but it didn't impact you before to the same extent, so his good qualities outweighed the selfishness. But now - raising a baby needs to be a team effort and he is refusing to be a team player. His selfishness is on display front and centre, and it can be a bit of a shocker, can't it?
Selfish pricks love to exploit situations in their favour, and the situation he thinks he can exploit here is - he thinks you're now trapped in this relationship because you now have a baby together. You're not trapped. You will always have a shared child with this man, but you are NOT trapped in this relationship. Relationships end. Especially when one party chooses to treat the other party badly.
"He still doesn’t get it and now I’m feeling guilty because now he’s saying his parents won’t get to see our baby. I feel shit"
He wants you to feel shit, he's trying to manipulate you to agree to his shitty non-starter of a 'plan'. If he really wanted his parents to see the baby he'd take the train. Or invite them to visit. But no, no - the woman who's recently given birth is to exhaust herself at his behest, chauffeur him to the door and to hell with whether or not such a long time in a carseat is any good for the baby, just so long as he can present himself to his parents as a man who is fertile and has a subservient woman at his beck and call! Really - fuck him and his parents<shrugs>. You have nothing to feel guilty about. He does, but selfish pricks are incapable of feeling guilt for their selfish behaviour.
Bottom line - see him for the bully and the prick that he is and tell him 'no', that is a ridiculous amount of driving he expects you and the baby to shoulder. And have a good think about this relationship, because it frankly isn't working for you.
Yes, all of this. And I bet he's been manipulating you for most of the relationship. Sulking when you won't do what he wants, training you that if you don't comply he'll make life very unpleasant for you. The fact that he didn't even check with you is revealing. And I bet there's an extra element of it all now there's a baby in the situation. He's expecting and pressuring you to facilitate his getting-wankered-with-his-mate lifestyle at the baby's expense. Maybe unconsciously or subconsciously but he wants to know that he still comes top of the pile now you have someone else to look after.
SavoirFlair · 19/01/2023 13:26
Chatachukchatter · 19/01/2023 13:15
I regularly drive long distance
Suggestions
Check the air in your tyres before you travel & water in the car washer. Fill up with petrol before you get on the motorway, because fuel is extortionate price on the motorway
It's much easier to drive during daylight at this time of year
Take food, drink, warm clothes, in your car incase the motorway gets closed & you can be stuck for hours
Do you have breakdown cover like AA or RAC
this is generic boilerplate
none of this will help the OP deal with the fact that
• she has a young child
• she is a new driver
• she will be hungover and sleep deprived on the way back
Deathbyfluffy · 19/01/2023 13:27
I regularly drive 250 miles in a day (but usually have a rest day the day after) - but I wouldn't be doing 600 in 2 days when kids and a hangover are factored in.
He's being unreasonable - they're his friends, he needs to sort transport out.
ehb102 · 19/01/2023 13:27
That's London to Newcastle distance. Not reasonable at all, especially with a baby in a car seat. The manufacturer limit is 2 hours. For that reason alone you shouldn't do it. We took a full day to get to Newcastle with a nearly two year old, and we live an hour out of London.
aloris · 19/01/2023 13:28
That's too long of a drive with a young baby in two days. You'll need to stop frequently with the baby and he/she will be in a carseat too long. And you are an inexperienced driver. He doesn't understand but it's an unreasonable plan. It also bothers me that he's using your lack of funds from being on maternity pay to push you into this unreasonable situation where he only pays for the aspects he approves but you do all the (driving) work, feel very stressed, and don't have any fun. I find that to be somewhat coercive. Just my opinion.
ZeldaWillTellYourFortune · 19/01/2023 13:28
It really enrages me, that he thinks this absurd plan is reasonable. Is he 12?
Has he zero consideration for you & the baby?
His parents can see the child if they put in the effort. It's not on you.
MichaelFabricantWig · 19/01/2023 13:29
That would be a no from me
cheeky bastard
I drove 240 miles each way to my work Christmas party but it was 2 days apart and I have been driving 30 years.
Rafferty10 · 19/01/2023 13:29
Op l am a confident driver of many years and there is no way l would do that, even without a small baby in tow....
That is 5-6 hours of driving more with breaks!
He is very selfish and would happily put you and your baby in danger..
Tell him to get lost..permanently.
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