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For me to be a SAHM my DH would have to earn.....

515 replies

CPHB2021 · 18/01/2023 17:32

Following on from a thread of 'if you knew all would be ok, I would...' and a resounding about said 'leave work and be a SAHP' I would absolutely LOVE to do this and by scraping the barrel, we probably could but we'd have little to no disposable income. I would only leave if I was able to still take my children to do things, meet friends for coffee etc. Go abroad once a year still. Have some money in savings. I often wonder HOW some of the mums at school don't work, we are technically 'above average' income which seem LUDICROUS given that we use almost all of it, every month! We live in the SE and I think our outgoings must be quite high! How much would one person have to earn for you to leave work?

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PatientlyWaiting21 · 18/01/2023 20:49

£90k.

Pumpmonkey · 18/01/2023 20:49

Don’t do it! If you ever get divorced you could be royally fucked over by your ex spouse (bitter voice of experience)

Ruffpuff · 18/01/2023 20:50

@Zone2NorthLondon maybe because she’s proving free childcare, meals and cleaning services to him and other things that generally encompass the SAHM role. If she worked then he’d have to pay childcare.

Baconand · 18/01/2023 20:51

I wouldn’t ever be financially dependent on anyone (I’m the main earner). But if I had enough of my own money I’d be a SAHM. I’d need to be mortgage free and have £1m+ in the bank though for retirement.

We have a combined income of around £73k now and we are skint (mortgage, childcare and horse).

Zone2NorthLondon · 18/01/2023 20:52

grumpycow1 · 18/01/2023 20:48

If they can’t afford childcare and both parents to work, or choose for a parent to stay with the kids. Regardless of the reason the SAHP loses out on career progression while the working parent is free to increase their earning potential. The SAHP should absolutely be compensated as a safety net.

Compensated for what exactly? If you chose not to work,that is your risk
It’s unreasonable to not contribute financially,have free food,free accommodation and still want someone else to provide your safety net. That’s not reasonable In The least. Plus when children are at school nursery what exactly is the demanding role? Again if yin want a safety net make some provision yourself don’t rely on your partner

Bunjeetreehouse · 18/01/2023 20:54

I have postgraduate degrees from top universities and haven't ever earned as much as £25,000 a year, not have most people I know. We must live on a different planet.

I have been a single parent and carer on about £18,000 a year and was comfortably off, able to go on at least one holiday a year (as well as cheaper trips staying with friends/family), eat out, go to museums, cinema, etc.. I have relatively low rent (750 a month) and only one child, so I can see it would be harder for stay at home parents with higher rent and more children, but the sums the super-rich on here claim they would need sound like pisstakey. Are they intentionally offensive and gloating or just terribly ignorant of how most of us live or just mind-bogglingly bad at budgeting?!

Many parents I know live on similar amounts and have holidays, go to restaurants, etc. too, so it isn't just me.

Rewis · 18/01/2023 20:55

Zone2NorthLondon · 18/01/2023 20:45

Why? As an unwaged adult she’s getting free accommodation,free food,free utilities
why would there be an expectation of compensation or remuneration from the salaried partner? There is a huge burden on the sole earner they don’t need to compensate the unwaged parent. at all. If one wants financial security, get a job

It might benefit the family including the husband to have one parent home full time. The husband can reap the benefits from being able to advance his career since he never has to do a pick up or a drop off or stay home with a suck kid. This is a way to reduce the financial risk for the wife. I think it's smart. This way all the money befits the family if they stay together but both have individual assets and are not fucked if they get divorced. A bit of over simplification but makes sense to me.

Zone2NorthLondon · 18/01/2023 20:55

Ruffpuff · 18/01/2023 20:50

@Zone2NorthLondon maybe because she’s proving free childcare, meals and cleaning services to him and other things that generally encompass the SAHM role. If she worked then he’d have to pay childcare.

Yes and if she worked she’d be contributing. Free meals? She’s preparing the food he bought, in the house he pays for, using utilities he pays for. Hardly one’s. Watching your own children isn’t comparable to a job, Not working and expecting an allowance is unreasonable

Notplayingball · 18/01/2023 20:56

Time over money is what I value more. Have been a SAHM for almost 16 years now.

Zone2NorthLondon · 18/01/2023 20:56

Yes and if she worked she’d be contributing. Free meals? She’s preparing the food he bought, in the house he pays for, using utilities he pays for. Hardly onerous Watching your own children isn’t comparable to a job, Not working and expecting an allowance is unreasonable

Sucessinthenewyear · 18/01/2023 20:56

CPHB2021 · 18/01/2023 19:06

Really interesting reading all of these....
Our monthly outgoings are £3,700. This is inclusive of all bills, food, fuel etc. We then have between £700-£1500 disposable each month ( varies as DH is self employed ) and we use the bigger months to put into savings, book holidays etc. So I suppose for us, as a family, we would need absolute minimum £65k net.

I’m a sahm, our monthly disposable income is £200 a month each. We have different priorities to each other, neither is right, just different.

Lifeomars · 18/01/2023 20:57

reading this thread has made me feel like an inadequate failure

Fullsomefrenchie · 18/01/2023 20:58

motleymop · 18/01/2023 19:12

Of course people can't resist the opportunity to say they could never be a SAHM and reliant on a man, the pension thing etc etc - ad nauseum. That wasn't the question, was it.

The question was how much money so the answer of no amount would be enough is a valid answer. It shouldn’t offend, we are all different.

some folks love doing kid rearing and housework, others would never give up their financial independence and careers to do it.

there is nothing wrong with this, no one asks men how much their wife’s would habe to earn so they can stay home and do the child care and make the dinner, it’s no different as we are women. It’s 2022 not 1950.

it’s also seldom men who end up skint in older age as their marriage ended, they don’t have a pension and can’t get a job that pays a decent amount all because they stopped working and relied on their spouse.

Hellybelly84 · 18/01/2023 21:00

I actually wouldn’t want to be once the kids are at school as I do think it would become monotonous (even though I know most SAHM work hard at home - I definately did). But I like earning my own money, having colleagues, using my brain (to make sure it still works)🤪

I do think when one parent stays at home and the other earns around 50k - 60k, it is ridiculous they take away child benefit, yet still give it to families both earning £45k. Why not go on total household income? In lots of cases, one parent has stayed at home as they have childcare issues (no family to help out) or no better off working with the cost of nursery. I think more should be done to support stay at home parents in the early years (before school) at least.

Bunjeetreehouse · 18/01/2023 21:01

It would take a very high sum of money to persuade me to miss out on spending that time with my child, so I suppose horses for courses and all.

As for what jobs pay "only" £25-30 grand...how much do you think the women looking after the children whose parents are at work are paid?!

Phos · 18/01/2023 21:05

I guess his sole income would need to equal our joint income now so it would need to be 150k.

Notplayingball · 18/01/2023 21:05

As well as DH's salary, we get CB, CTCs, and SCP. Financially doing okay. Not rich but not struggling either.

I am a home bird so don't care for going out, no expensive hobbies.

Approximately just under £30k.

toffeecocomars · 18/01/2023 21:07

Bpdqueen · 18/01/2023 18:35

Is everyone on mumsnet rich or am I the only person in this country living on an income of 13 grand a year

That made me chuckle 😂

GHRT · 18/01/2023 21:08

Imissmybabygirl · 18/01/2023 19:40

100k household income doesn't make you rich if you have a mortgage, childcare to pay, cars to pay for work and all those essential bills to pay.

Some people seems to forget not everyone are lucky enough to get inheritance, deposit for a house, significant cash gift, free childcare etc. All of these are very significant.

Husband who is a senior engineer is interviewing for a new post next week that starts on 100k with a 20% bonus. It’s the first time I’ve started to consider being a SAHP.

Our toddler eats like shes a 6ft teenager and two of us have a severe allergy that means we have to boil wash nearly everything once a week. We have no outside help e.g parents and want to send our daughter to the local independent school from 5. My OH income would only cover essentials, modest savings, a few basic holidays and the ability to start putting the monthly school fee in savings.

We both grew up in low income households and wouldn’t want our daughter to constantly be hearing ‘we can’t afford it’.

We’re in the Midlands.

DontMakeMeShushYou · 18/01/2023 21:09

Ruffpuff · 18/01/2023 20:50

@Zone2NorthLondon maybe because she’s proving free childcare, meals and cleaning services to him and other things that generally encompass the SAHM role. If she worked then he’d have to pay childcare.

Oh come off it! This sort of trite lazy nonsense does SAHPs no favours. It suggests someone who, deep down, suspects they are entirely irrelevant but is desperately seeking validation by coming up with a list of basic household tasks and claiming they are jobs their apparently incompetent husband would have to pay for if they didn't do it. Don't get me wrong - being a SAHM is certainly hard work - but, really? Providing cleaning services to him? Because she's cleaning the house she lives in which, according to another thread earlier this week, generates way more cleaning and housework if it contains a SAHP.

OwwwMuuuum · 18/01/2023 21:10

Zone2NorthLondon · 18/01/2023 20:52

Compensated for what exactly? If you chose not to work,that is your risk
It’s unreasonable to not contribute financially,have free food,free accommodation and still want someone else to provide your safety net. That’s not reasonable In The least. Plus when children are at school nursery what exactly is the demanding role? Again if yin want a safety net make some provision yourself don’t rely on your partner

I thought marriage was supposed to be a partnership where we support each other and rely on each other.

If you’ve supported your DH to make it, surely you’re entitled to half of it if he fucks you over?

I’m a SAHM, I had a good paying career myself for 15+ years but jacked it in when DH earned over £300k in a year, I’m incredibly lucky to be able to focus on raising the family, but then it means DH can focus on career progression. I’ve sacrificed my independence and my own progression, traded it in for freedom and a retraining budget (I’m on a new career pathway and plan to return to work in about 5 years then work PT til I drop). Not a bad deal.

Wineiscooling · 18/01/2023 21:10

My husband earns around 65k and I’ve just gone full time as we’re struggling to maintain our standard of living lately! We don’t want to give up holidays and nice things though and the kids are older. I suppose everyone has different priorities though. My best of both worlds was to be part time. I loved my days off with the kids but also love work, the social interaction and the financial independence. I am also now thinking of pensions. I think even if my husband was earning double I wouldn’t give up work although I would likely stay part time.

Newmumatlast · 18/01/2023 21:11

Ideally it would be me working with DH SAHD and I'd want to replace his income so our lifestyle didn't change. Would need about 165k to do that because I'd need to earn more than he earns now to get the same output due to tax brackets. And I'd want ideally to keep our joint gross the same as I would want him to have more than just housekeeping. I'd want him to keep a pension, have his own savings etc. Until then, we are both working but in all likelihood he will become a SAHD in next few years whatever.

OwwwMuuuum · 18/01/2023 21:12

Tbh it really bites when you see HE has life insurance, not you (because you don’t earn, your life isn’t worth much!)

Zone2NorthLondon · 18/01/2023 21:13

Come off it what? It’s not cinderfuckinella all hand washing & skivvying. Being SAHP isn’t a 24/7 drudge esp not when your kids are at school. Free everything eg accommodation,food,utilities and no financial responsibility whilst watching your own kids. it’s not requiring a safety net.