To think stating your pronouns is redundant?

[BridgertonLady]

I’m referring to email signatures. When for example you’re female with an obvious feminine name. It seems a bit performative in my opinion.

If however your name is Michelle and you state in your signature he/him then great thanks for letting me know so I can refer to you correctly without offensive as I would have just assumed she/her.

At the end of the day you are either male or female. I always state Mrs, as I am a married female

I find stating pronouns to be totally unnecessary.

If I'm replying to an email someone has sent me then I put 'Dear Jules' or whatever their name is. If I'm sending an email to someone and I don't know them I put 'Dear Sir/Madam' which covers all eventualities.

Should I feel the need to telephone an organisation, then I ask to speak to either the relevant department or the person by name. If they are unavailable, usually the person answering the phone will conveniently say something like "She's in a meeting" which tells you that the person is a 'she', or if not, then I ask either when would be the best time to call back, or 'What time will they be in the office?'.

Easy peasy. You don't need to know someone's pronouns.

I'm on a niche hobby forum elsewhere on t'internet and have a random username. Nobody needs to know the contents of my underwear in order to hold a conversation.

Totally redundant, pointless and virtue-signally.

This has only been invented in the last five years, and everybody is jumping on the bandwagon. Five years ago, if you really needed to know how to refer to someone in the third person, what arcane magic did you use to determine whether that person was a man or a woman? Think about it. Now do the same today. It's not hard.

I used to work with a female Alex and nobody died from assuming sometimes that she was a bloke before they met her. She found it quite funny.

Absolute pants. I either giggle or do a massive eye roll when I see this, depending what mood I'm in. I also might assume they are the opposite of what they are telling me. 🧐

Someone would only use a pronoun for me if I wasn't there. As I'm not there, they can call me what the fuck they like.

It's ridiculous. I would refuse, they have them available at my work, but barely anyone uses them.

Why does the sex of someone you are communicating over email for work matter? Or how they identify?

As long as they do their job why should I know or care if they are male, female or subscribe to gender theory?

I used to work for a company supplying to a major global bank. Dominique was the name of the manager at the customer side, and almost all of the team on our side messed up their email introductions and caused some embarrassment in the early stages of a new business relationship. Pronouns would have helped.

The only way you could "misgender" someone with an unisex first name is if you had never met them and never seen or heard anyone else referring to them whilst using the relevant sex-based pronoun. If you're responding to them in an email then you won't need to use anything other than their name or "you".

I'd love to know how exactly someone would treat a female Sam differently to a male Sam in the workplace, if pronouns are so important to know.

Why would Dominiques sex or pronouns need to be shared? Refer to Dominique as Dominique.

I quite like having my pronouns in my email because I have quite an uncommon name outside the country I’m from and I interact with a lot of people who don’t know the name. It’s also quite hard to pronounce so I’m happy enough for people to say “she emailed me” rather than butchering my name constantly. But I think “forcing” people to have them is a bit regressive. Lots of other people in my workplace do it but no one ever asked me to, I chose to

I’m watching the new series of Glow Up, which annoyingly has started putting the contestants’ pronouns next to their names, eg:

Laura (she/her)
Ben (he/him)

Charlie is a super special (he/she/they).

If I’m ever asked my pronouns, I think I’ll follow Charlie’s lead and make their tiny brains boggle.

I'm a freelance in an industry where women are routinely paid less than men. I deliberately have a gender neutral name and I don't use my pronouns, because I know the answer to your question in my job - female Sam is less likely to be hired, and more likely to be hired at a lesser rate, than male Sam.

So the longer female Sam can ride the assumption that she's male, the better for her. And me.

A few people have done this at work for some reason. All women with female names and no ambiguity. Just makes me roll my eyes tbh

My pronouns: I, me, my, mine, myself.

Especially pointless on emails where it doesn't matter and also you know their name which tells you. It might be helpful in real life, due to transwomen looking like men and vice Versa.

My other favorite pronouns: thatfucker, thatfucker's

You may find yourself in hot water if you voice these views at work, particularly the twattery bit.

It really puts me off people, if I’m honest.

Really, Caroline?! You’re She/Her? Shocking!

Right, Dave. You’re They/Then. Okey doke.

<eye roll>

A recent guardian profile said Rainbow uses 'they' pronouns.

But no, Rainbow does not.

Rainbow uses I/me and expects every other fucker to fall in line with the 'they' twattery.

The whole fucking pronoun thing is about controlling other people's speech.

findmybalance · Today 19:40

You may find yourself in hot water if you voice these views at work, particularly the twattery bit.

Don't be so silly! There's no legal requirement for it and your speech cannot be compelled.

I have a name that can be interpreted as either male or female. Some people make assumptions and I’ve had more than a few emails addressed as “Dear Sir”. Doesn’t bother me in the slightest.

I can only imagine that the people it does bother are those who are easily offended.

Quite. When I see pronouns stated I think of some adjectives as well.

Never done it, never will