Gender recognition reform blocked

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Scottish Secretary Alister Jack has made an order under section 35 of the Scotland Act 1998, preventing the Scottish Parliament’s Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill from proceeding to Royal Assent.
Thank god 🙏🏻 I am an SNP supporter but this is one bill I was wholeheartedly against. I'm glad and relieved this decision was made.

I work with quite a few - most of whom are under the age of 16.

It would have an impact on the equalities act 2010 and how that was implemented which is a UK wide piece of legislation.

I am not a fan of NS but did think she was a strong advocate for women,until this Act

This is win win for sturgeon. She either gets the bill and is a 'progressive' first minister or she paints Scotland as a victim. It's the same sit the Indy vote. I think she was secretly glad it was a no to this as I doubt she would have got a yes vote. But she has more ammo to fire at the next opportunity. It's a long game independence. Until the baby boomers are dead they won't get a yes.

Except she didn’t say that.
Try reading it again…

It was a person very close to me who transitioned that turned me from TWAW to being gender critical. The sheer misogyny of it all and the impact on women's rights became very clear to me.

@GreenEmeraldSea Oh God, the old "trans people are evil people with nefarious purposes in mind" trope

Comprehension is really not your strong point is it? Perhaps read it again.

@RosaCaramella

I dont think women and girls are at risk from trans people. I think they could well be at risk from predators taking advantage of self id reforms to claim to be trans and access formerly safe spaces.

Yes, but this is a very very big issue involving the rights of 50% of the population. Massive issue. I was hoping, for the sake of my daughter, that this would be a zero tolerance issue for SNP women.

I am very aware that if we'd achieved Independence in 2014, women and children would be in a devastating position right now. For me, my daughter's rights and her safety is more important than anything in the world. It dismays me that women and girls rights could come second to anything. I could never choose to risk that, even if there was a high political price to pay on an issue dear to me (like independence is to you).

How many people who express an opinion (judgement) on this actually know any trans people? The legislation was brought about to lessen the terrible toll that trying to be accepted for who they are takes on trans people - especially young people who are one of the highest groups to take their own lives.

Dear god stop being so melodramatic.

I met my first transperson before most of the blue hairs screaming transphobe were even born. I took time off work to look after my friend post op, what horrible person I am.

Can you tell me how a new birth certificate increases trans acceptance? All other documentation can be changed without a GRC. Do you carry your birth certificate around with you?

Please stop using widely debunked suicide stats for young trans people, it's harmful.

Trans acceptance would be a non issue if the activists speaking on behalf of trans people weren't so intent on forcing the rest of us to deny reality.

FOJN "I met my first transperson before most of the blue hairs screaming transphobe were even born. I took time off work to look after my friend post op, what horrible person I am."

same re my trans contacts. They feel quite upset about a lot of this, they went through so much pain and suffering to transition, and now it's become an issue of self ID - bewildering and strange.

The SNP presumably did this for the headlines.

They won't win any judicial review. I assume it's like the independence bill, clearly wrong in law, so it's done to provoke.

Pleased really as I don't want this terrible law to apply on a proxy basis in England. Scotland can be independent and then do it.

Lex to provoke what? If they don't mean it, I don't understand the endgame.

Some of the things the SNP do are so wrong in UK constitutional law that you assume they are done deliberately. Scottish lawyers and the lawyers who draft for the Scottish Government are not stupid people yet these laws are.

Therefore when a draft law can never survive, and a drafting lawyer would know. The advisers would know. The only purpose is political.

She is not a strong advocate for women at all.

Look back a little further at her chequered career re supporting. She is not, and has never been an ally of women.

@scratchedbymycat the gender recognition reform would never have been proposed if we'd of gotten independence in 2014, trust me.

Completely agree.

This will be used to stoke anti-English rhetoric, despite the fact that she has moved way out of her lane on this one.

@RosaCaramella

When I first started looking into this years ago I wondered whether there was anything to be worried about too. I started a spreadsheet where I logged sex offenders that were identified in the media, and who were trans and in the UK. I got to 37 awful examples (they usually are when they make the media) and stopped a couple of years ago because it got so disheartening. I still see cases all the time and wonder how many I'd have logged if I had kept it up.

There's also been a sudden 84% increase in female paedophiles ... 🧐 In the news this week. Weird that .... 👃 🐀

This is not to say all trans women are rapists or paedophiles.

Similarly, not all men are rapists or child abusers.

If the fact that most trans women are not violent is a reason to allow ALL TW into women's spaces, then, logically, the same courtesy should be extended to ALL men.

It's not about trans women: it's about male violence against women and children. I don't know a single man who is violent to women, but that doesn't mean I think men don't present a threat to women and children. It's about the significant minority who have a devastating impact on women and girls. It's about women and girls deserving to be protected from them.

@RosaCaramella
What is a trans person anyway? Stonewall include cross dressers in their definition. So doing it for sexual kicks. We do not want them in womens spaces thank you. Stop being so naive.

and yes I know plenty young vulnerable trans FTM through my work. Not who we’re talking about here though. Although I worry about them following a path that’s hard to get off and this Act does not help.

I think you have to get past this issue on independence- these laws are really being passed by numpties. That is frightening to me. The only oversight is the UK Government.

This law is wrong for many reasons. I accept that Scotland may want self ID. But really, it is scary how it has been done. I also can't live with the SNP infringing my rights even though I don't even live there.

What makes you say that?

Show a single link where people express hatred for transpeople. Just ONE.

Show one post on here that indicates a pathological hatred of trans people. Just the one will do.

@scratchedbymycat because this was the plan all along. The SNP don't truly want this bill to be passed, they know it is an awful idea, they knew it would be blocked. This will now give them yet another example of how Scotland doesn't have any freedom and is being controlled by Westminster in order to push their narrative that Scotland must insist on another referendum. Although, I don't think she quite anticipated how just the mention of the GRR could intact alienate a big percentage of her supporters.

This. Sturgeon doesn’t care about trans issues. She knew they’d block it. She’s power mad.