Gender recognition reform blocked

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Scottish Secretary Alister Jack has made an order under section 35 of the Scotland Act 1998, preventing the Scottish Parliament’s Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill from proceeding to Royal Assent.
Thank god 🙏🏻 I am an SNP supporter but this is one bill I was wholeheartedly against. I'm glad and relieved this decision was made.

Good, good, good.

@BuwchGochGota this is the first time the UK government has stepped in and thank FUCK for that clause in the Scotland Act.

op, I’m Scottish and I loathe the SNP. They’re a useless shower of corrupt and inept c**ts. I don’t know where you are in Scotland but if you’re in and around Glasgow then open your eyes to the state the city is in and consider whether they’re worthy of your vote.

Good

Oh God, the old "trans people are evil people with nefarious purposes in mind" trope.

I don’t know where you are in Scotland but if you’re in and around Glasgow then open your eyes to the state the city is in and consider whether they’re worthy of your vote.

That's interesting, the most ardent SNP supporter I know lives in Glasgow. Well I say SNP supporter but quite honestly I think they'd vote for anyone promising an indy ref.

@GreenEmeraldSea YOU are the one linking trans people and nefarious purposes together. The PP said people with ulterior motives, people. Not trans people.

Let’s face it. MEN with ulterior motives and penises- regardless of their make up or dresses.

I think it sets a dangerous precedent that Westminster can overrule the devolved governments
But that's what s35 is for, otherwise Sturgeon would be able to roll back women's rights throughout the UK instead of just trashing the rights of women in Scotland. The decision to apply s35 could be challenged by JR. Interesting times if you're into constitutional law.

Oh god, did I say trans people had nefarious intentions? Err no, I didn't, try reading my whole post or carry on willfully misunderstanding in the mistaken belief you will make me look like the bad guy.

How do you prove who is and isn't trans if the only distinction is someone's is say so?

Good. I’m Scottish and an SNP voter but I don’t agree with the gender reform age being 16 in Scotland. The bill hasn’t received Royal assent so it’s in status is now.
But I’m not sure how it safeguards women, e.g. trans women being sent to female prisons, or having access to female spaces like public toilets and changing rooms where women, young people and little girls are. Just doesn’t sit right with me, when they are biologically male.
Saying that I think trans people should have a better experience and rights as long as proper safeguards for women and girls are respected and the age is raised to 18 to get a gender recognition certificate.

Isn’t there some adults who regret transitioning as young people… though o read a few articles about this too so really trans people need to be safeguarded so their not making decisions they’ll come to regret later.

Are you still an SNP supporter even after all this? They don't have a hope in hell of ever getting a vote from me again.

This.

Also very glad its been blocked.

Saved from themselves.

I’m from Glasgow and support the SNP but I suspect this is going to be a vote loser for them once the details of the bill get picked apart in the media. But I can’t see them doing a u-turn on it. Will be interesting to see how this pans out.

Yup she has engineered this for completely different ends, throwing a shitload of people onto a sickening roller coaster ride. What a nasty thing to do.

Belief in science isn't pathological hatred of anything.

Brilliant news.

I just pray it’s a real sign of the tide turning

It's a terrible Bill being pushed through for political purposes because of their alliance with the Greens. They didn't have it in their Manifesto, the consultation was a whitewash and they have refused to listen to anyone advocating for women's rights.

This is not just about the tiny minority of trans folk it's also about 50% of the population and the safeguarding of women and girls.

And saying all that doesn't mean I hate trans people.

Not the same thing, legally, but Westminster had to circumnavigate the useless shower in Stormont (or rather, not in Stormont) to uphold women's right to an abortion in Northern Ireland
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-63833719

Glasgow has its issues like any other big city. And it had them long before the SNP.

Yes yes yes!!! Bloody brilliant news!! Best thing the Tories have ever done. Self ID is a predators dream.

The cynic in new thinks Sturgeon did this whole thing on purpose, to provoke the Tories in to blocking it, and then using it to drive support for independence. But I’m just glad finally someone has stuck up for women and children!

@scratchedbymycat I am yes, I think it'd be difficult to find a party in which you support every single one of their policies. The majority of policies set out by the SNP I agree with and I do want independence. However, the gender reform recognition bill was one I strongly disagreed with and am glad it's not going ahead. But that doesn't change my views on the SNP as a whole. Should we get independence (unlikely) then I would perhaps look at other party policies at that time. At the moment, my main aim is independence and so they shall get my vote. They've also done loads for me personally as a student and as a single mum so I really can't complain.

How many people who express an opinion (judgement) on this actually know any trans people? The legislation was brought about to lessen the terrible toll that trying to be accepted for who they are takes on trans people - especially young people who are one of the highest groups to take their own lives.
I don’t get the argument that girls and women are at risk from trans women. From the news today, women and girls are at much more risk from policeman. And men in general! Trans people are a tiny minority who just want the same right to live their lives as their own selves.
Just don’t get the negative attitude. And no I’m not trans but have seen the devastation that public attitudes and the lack of acceptance have on some trans people.
The legislation was for people living in Scotland so has nothing to do with the rUK. No one asked me my opinion on the bill and it wasn’t discussed widely in the press or on social media as far as I am aware so I would also question the assertions that the Scottish public didn’t want the bill.
Where’s the empathy and compassion for this tiny minority of people?

Rosa "How many people who express an opinion (judgement) on this actually know any trans people?"

I know two but they had full surgery. My understanding is that relaxing the law allows for self ID, which is a complete different exercise to full medical transition.