To not feel safe in changing rooms anymore?

[WandaWomblesaurus]

nypost.com/2023/01/14/sighting-of-trans-womans-penis-in-ymca-locker-room-sparks-tears/

Another story about an inappropriate man in a woman's changing room - is this what we are going to see more of in the UK now too? Having been both flashed and sexually assaulted in a public place, this chills me to the bone. Men who get a thrill out of exposing themselves to women will use any opportunity to do so. To think that they won't abuse women's spaces is to be wilfully and dangerously naive.

YANBU - Not unreasonable to think that flashing is flashing regardless of self ID and magical feelings.

YABU - Be kind to men etc etc

Except, as evidence PROVES, trans women are the most privileged and protected, and far more likely to RAPE A WOMAN, than to be a victim of a violent attack themselves. As all the data shows. So you can stop lying now and pretending that men in a dress are more likely to be a victim than actual women. You cannot believe the absurd lies you are saying.

Gender is a feeling. You ‘feel’ female when you’re male, you ‘feel’ male when you’re female’, you ‘feel’ you’re a cat when you’re a human. Gender is based on emotions. But you know that, don’t you 🤷‍♀️

@BillyNotQuiteNoMates Humans, like all mammals, are sexually dimorphic. Humans divide into the class that produces small gametes and the class that produces large gametes. Each new human is gestated and delivered by a member of the class that produces large gametes.
The existence of disorders of sexual development is no more evidence that sex is on a spectrum than the existence of the occasional two-headed cow is evidence that cows are a two-headed species. DSDs are just that: disorders. And people with DSDs still fall into one or other of the two gamete classes.

They will no doubt come back with some shit about abnormalities in male chromosomes or the 1 in 15,0000 women who suffer from syndromes which prevent their full realisation of female organs who have chromosomal abnormalities (even though there’s no link to being transgender).

@Travis1 " I’m done trying on this forum. "

Goodo!
B-bye now!

Wrong.

They're male, I'll give the poster this one. Male people are both more violent and more at risk of violence than women are, but only if you exclude sexual violence, which is overwhelming male on female.

It's an out-and-out, unsubstantiated, blatant, easily refutable lie.

Except that whether you want to admit it or not, transgender women are actually far more likely to be the victim of a violent attack, in a public place, than a cis woman would be.

Firstly, you'll need to evidence that.

Secondly, even it were true, why should women be shields for this group, compromising their own safety?

Why wouldn't you just address the problem of male violence towards this group?

Firstly, you'll need to evidence that

They probably just identify as the most vulnerable.

Reality doesn't matter much.

@Limesodas

Of course, we are supposed to weep at the mere sight of a penis as women are so ‘vulnerable’

If I saw a penis in a women's changing room I'd probably point and draw loads of attention to the pervert, whilst laughing my head off. But then I'm old and I've been around the block a few times. If my autistic 19 year old daughter, or my 16 year old daughter saw one in that situation they'd be traumatised.

Just because you get your rocks off by looking at men getting their todgers out in public doesn't mean the rest of us do. Go watch some gay porn if you're that desperate to see a willy!

YANBU. I had to ask the staff in Next to tell a man to piss off from the women’s changing room. He seemed to think he had the right to be in there offering his wife his opinions on clothes, forgetting that other women have the right to privacy. So entitled.

What do you think is going to happen to you in a changing room? I don't get it.

I have been raped and sexually abused.
I can't imagine these things happening in a changing room with a stranger. Perhaps they do but you'd be far more realistic to worry about people who have regular contact with children like family and then about their peers. It's rarely strangers

I don't want men in the changing room but I'm not bothered about trans women

YANBU Any male bodied person who enters a single sex space that's clearly a breach of women's 'boundaries' is, in My opinion a sex offender. Any man doing that is going to be either perving or flashing.

@Limesodas

Except trans women are women

JFC woman! You've really drank the Kool Aid haven't you? Tell me what makes transwomen, women? Is it their pretty dresses? Their female penises or the pretty female feelings in their heads?

I don't want men in the changing room but I'm not bothered about trans women

What do you see as the material difference? Curious.

Here you are Lincoln - share your changing room /shower /toilet/ hospital ward or prison cell with this charmer:

twitter.com/Glinner/status/1612227908025606144

Transwomen are men.

If trans women weren’t so selfish and always thinking of their own needs above everyone else they wouldn’t use clothes changing rooms at all and do what most women feel they have to do and try them on at home! After all if they’re really women they would completely understand the fear women have wouldn’t they!

Perhaps they do but you'd be far more realistic to worry about people who have regular contact with children like family and then about their peers. It's rarely strangers

You can, of course, worry about both.

Unless you think that feelings in men's heads are more important than the reality of women's safety and dignity. If that's your position, then own it.

That's taken in the Nottingham branch of the House of Fraser - photos taken in the cafe, lingerie department etc. Not far from Lincoln.