Page 7 | To wonder where Margot Robbie's internal organs are.... see Vanity Fair cover

LoveMyPiano · 2023-01-14T19:46:26+00:00

This is not an intention to body shame - but I find the cover shot of Margot Robbie on Vanity Fair quite shocking. And unnecessary 😥 I have been just as thin, and was classed as underweight and diagnosed with an eating disorder. I hope I'm not the only one who wonders what the next level for stars might be, if this is an aspirational "look". And for us regular humans.

JaneFondue · 14/01/2023 21:20

A lot of seething envy on this thread.

Bagsundermyeyestoday · 14/01/2023 21:20

Eyerollcentral · 14/01/2023 21:10

Different bodies are different though. Just because you were slim and your ribs weren’t visible doesn’t mean MR is too thin because you can see hers. I have a friend who is taller than me, broader than me, two dress sizes bigger than me and her ribs are visible whereas mine haven’t been seen since before the pandemic. Your response that you hope the poster didn’t have daughters or granddaughters because she did not agree MR is dangerously thin is an extreme reaction to a totally reasonable statement.

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I just don't think females should be told that seeing ribs is normal and something to aspire to and I stand by that 🤷🏼‍♀️

In fact the use of the word 'normal' is problematic. Of course bodies come in different sizes, and unfortunately both skinny and fat naturally are both judged unfairly. There are other posters here implying this is healthy and anything bigger is not, which of course is also untrue (well that's how I have interpreted certain posts, although I may be mistaken).

IntentionalError · 14/01/2023 21:21

Yes, it would, because the image is not real. Like all magazine covers, it has been heavily digitally modified using photoshop software.

Do people really still need this spelling out to them?

Opos · 14/01/2023 21:21

Ridiculous.

She looks fantastic.

Quincythequince · 14/01/2023 21:22

LoveMyPiano · 14/01/2023 20:45

It was an observation, and not intended as body-shaming.. I did not, also , say that she particularly is "skinny" - rather that a wider discussion has opened up about the modelling industry, to which of course, the movies are closely aligned.

My thread title was, as I said, facetious - I do understand human anatomy. But I maintain that it is not a great pose, photoshop job, or image for the cover. That's my opinion.

I am not at all talking about her weight -and understand all body TYPES, eccto-, endo- and meso-morphic. She is probably an endomorph.

I do not have a distorted view of bodies, my own or anyone else's, eating disorder aside. And BMI measurement is well-known to have been invented to measure GROUPS of people, not individuals.

I have never subscribed to using all the numbers for health - apart from the truly scientific ones - such as fat % , heart rates, and blood pressure. Dress sizes BMIs and even actual weight are not to be followed slavishly - but rather aiming to health and feeling well. BUT - young girls and ladies now growing up would get a distorted view of what they should be happy with, body-wise, if inundated with images like this - of people they may look up to and admire in some way.

And breathing OUT is what makes abdomens go "in", not out. Try it.

A lot of younger girls now are fairly chunky by comparison tiny wars gone by (national stats tell you that) and happy wear clothes with their bellies on display.

I don’t think anybody feels pressured to look like this tbh.

And if they did, she looks fit - what of it?

You are backpedaling furiously - just say fair enough, IABU and be done with it.

And I look very similar to this, body wise, btw.

I am a size 10, solid strong core and fit tones limbs, but still have a curvy round stomach and covering on my ribs.

I eat well, exercise daily, and take care of myself.

Quincythequince · 14/01/2023 21:23

That VF cover image makes her look "too thin

No, it does not!

She looks very fit- as she actually is.

Oblomov22 · 14/01/2023 21:24

Her ribs do look a bit stuck out. But here is a picture of her at the Golden Globes 3 days ago and she looks good. Different. No ribs. Perfect. Healthy.

To wonder where Margot Robbie's internal organs are.... see Vanity Fair cover

Eyerollcentral · 14/01/2023 21:30

Bagsundermyeyestoday · 14/01/2023 21:20

I just don't think females should be told that seeing ribs is normal and something to aspire to and I stand by that 🤷🏼‍♀️

In fact the use of the word 'normal' is problematic. Of course bodies come in different sizes, and unfortunately both skinny and fat naturally are both judged unfairly. There are other posters here implying this is healthy and anything bigger is not, which of course is also untrue (well that's how I have interpreted certain posts, although I may be mistaken).

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I don’t think I have used the word ‘normal’ in this context. I haven’t seen any one say that any size or shape bigger or different from MR’s is unhealthy. I have seen many people say she isn’t dangerously thin and is a healthy weight. Everyone male and female should aspire to keeping excess weight off to safeguard their health. That doesn’t mean aspiring to being stick thin.

PlusLaMeme · 14/01/2023 21:31

Omg that pink dress in the Golden Globes is to die for!

NewbieSM · 14/01/2023 21:32

It's just the pose and dress I just contorted myself into the same pose and hey presto you can see ribs and obliques but when I stand normally they are less prominent. She looks healthy and strong, she definitely works out hard, she had to do huge amounts of training for her role in I Tonya so hardly surprising. I do think those on this thread putting her down are just jealous and insecure which is a shame.

mooongooose · 14/01/2023 21:35

LoveMyPiano · 14/01/2023 19:55

Hmm - I guess I stand corrected then.....
I had an eating disorder, not body dysmorphia.
I think extremes of shape (not weight) are disconcerting, and neither need to be aspired to, or worshipped.

None of your business what shape others are, and being slightly over or underweight is not a big deal. Most people don't worship others, anyway.

JaneFondue · 14/01/2023 21:37

Any of your young girls into Kpop or K drama? Would you say that the women in them set a bad example? Because they are very, very slim and certainly all of them have ribs showing.

Sartre · 14/01/2023 21:46

She hasn’t had kids and almost definitely works out a lot. She isn’t unhealthy or underweight imo, looks normal.

LimeTwists · 14/01/2023 21:49

Mines’s exactly like this if I breathe in and it’s because I exercise a lot. It’s toned, not emaciated. I’m normal weight / BMI.

TheKeatingFive · 14/01/2023 22:03

I just don't think females should be told that seeing ribs is normal

Based on what?

It is for me and I'm nowhere close to being underweight.

If you look at other cultures or people from years ago, you'll start to see what regular body weights actually look like. U.K. norms are very distorted.

napody · 14/01/2023 22:03

levellingleveller · 14/01/2023 20:12

She looks like she is breathing in as if her life ( or career…) depended on it.

Honestly, I find that photo deeply unattractive and not remotely aspirational.

I agree with you though OP, a photo of a woman with her ribs showing like that is an unhealthy image to present to young women and girls.

I agree and it's nothing to do with her body- I agree she looks fit and strong. But deliberately showing as much ribcage as possible sounds like a it'd be pored over as a badge of honour on some pro-ana websites... its just not a good idea.

FrownedUpon · 14/01/2023 22:07

She looks great. You’re over-analysing.

Nicecow · 14/01/2023 22:16

TheKeatingFive · 14/01/2023 22:03

I just don't think females should be told that seeing ribs is normal

Based on what?

It is for me and I'm nowhere close to being underweight.

If you look at other cultures or people from years ago, you'll start to see what regular body weights actually look like. U.K. norms are very distorted.

Based on how females are so messed up and insecure, have a peruse of the threads today. 'Beauty' magazines are probably the basis of this, now worse by social media.
As I said the word normal in itself is problematic.
Look back further and rubenesque was the desired look, so not sure what your point is 🤷🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️
Also look at Pacific Islanders ... that's a culture, are you saying they're not normal? 'Normal' body shapes vary because of a thing called genetics

Eyerollcentral · 14/01/2023 22:17

TheKeatingFive · 14/01/2023 22:03

I just don't think females should be told that seeing ribs is normal

Based on what?

It is for me and I'm nowhere close to being underweight.

If you look at other cultures or people from years ago, you'll start to see what regular body weights actually look like. U.K. norms are very distorted.

Yes, even footage from 20 years ago demonstrates the huge shift there has been in terms of body size and shape in the Ik.

Eyerollcentral · 14/01/2023 22:27

Nicecow · 14/01/2023 22:16

Based on how females are so messed up and insecure, have a peruse of the threads today. 'Beauty' magazines are probably the basis of this, now worse by social media.
As I said the word normal in itself is problematic.
Look back further and rubenesque was the desired look, so not sure what your point is 🤷🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️
Also look at Pacific Islanders ... that's a culture, are you saying they're not normal? 'Normal' body shapes vary because of a thing called genetics

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You seem to be the person who has introduced the term ‘normal’ in to the conversation though.
Pacific Islanders have some of the highest rates of obesity and obesity related diseases in the world. I’ve attached information from Wikipedia on the causes. Pacific Islanders traditionally did not carry the level of excess weight they tend to now until new, high calorie foods were introduced to them.
Re Rubenesque - this was at a time when only the wealthy could eat so much that they put on significant amounts of weight. Being larger was seen as desirable as it was seen as a marker of wealth.

TheKeatingFive · 14/01/2023 22:33

Based on how females are so messed up and insecure, have a peruse of the threads today. 'Beauty' magazines are probably the basis of this, now worse by social media.

Just look at historical pictures. The average woman in the U.K. used to be much thinner than now, in eras before magazines and extensive media coverage.

PlusLaMeme · 15/01/2023 00:02

Look back further and rubenesque was the desired look

The women in Rubens' paintings weren't obese though? They weren't even fat. I can't say what the contemporary state of human physiology was in his time, but they all look like either middle-aged women with a few rolls around their midriff or young women with sturdy thighs. He does tend to paint the characters in his "party" scenes as fat, and Bacchus is definitely obese.

The idea that the average British size today is rubenesque is some serious cope

Coffeetableposhbooks · 15/01/2023 00:06

She’s gorgeous lucky thing with a fantastic figure which I am sure takes a fuck ton of hard work to maintain. She is clearly not underweight in any way.

we have seen heroin chic and she is not that.

harrassedmumto3 · 15/01/2023 00:08

It's clearly done for a reaction, as there is absolutely no need for her ribs to be on show.

Anthillmobontherun · 15/01/2023 00:14

harrassedmumto3 · 15/01/2023 00:08

It's clearly done for a reaction, as there is absolutely no need for her ribs to be on show.

That's the fashion industry though isn't it? Daring to shock etc to get folk talking about their front cover and here we are