To not be able to stop thinking about the Idaho murder case

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Is anyone else following this case? It’s absolutely horrible and has really scared me to the point of locking my bedroom door when I sleep every night! The more that comes out in the news, the more bizarre and confusing the case seems to get too. So scary to think what people are capable of 😞

I also wondered when they let Murphy out of the bedroom would he not of ran through the house and contaminated the scene ... my dogs would be so excited to be let out they would run all over , that linked article stated there was so much blood all over.
Maybe he was wearing one of them decorating overalls or something and whipped it off , I can't see how he hasn't left more dna , blood spatter from the stabbings , more than one footprint etc
If he hasn't it must of been planned so meticulously yet that speed of the killings would make you think it was a fast and rage attack
It's just so so sad and so far motiveless until
The trial reveals more

The linked article say the police found the dog in the room so I’d say they probably carried him out.

Murphy is a labradoodle, so not a huge dog. The flatmate who was in the room below the two girls would have told the police that Murphy was upstairs, and they could have gone in prepared and carried him out.

My mistake. I thought you were being obtuse because there is a lot of information on this thread that would have explained everything but you just commented 'what murder?'

Ah of course and he's friendly isn't he so would
Of been easy to carry so he didn't run through

I’m thinking, maybe someone put the dog in a separate room before the murder. Dogs usually sleep in their owner’s room, especially in a mixed house, so to put them in a separate room and close the door on them is odd. Maybe it was BK who put the dog there before he killed them? Am I overthinking?

@ImprobablePuffin I had to Google it, because I couldn't make head nor tail of the thread. Don't think I've seen it covered on the BBC news site at all. Or if it was, I've missed it.

Forgive me if I’m being naive, but would he have definitely been drenched in blood? Splatter yes, but drenched? If he didn’t touch them much other than with the knife, he could have avoided lots of the blood no?

also in that article it says that by the time the police got there the blood had seeped through the floorboards and down the walls.. do we think that’s true or a dramatic bit of literature?! Because if that’s true that’s absolutely horrifying. But also would have meant that Dylan and Bethany would have seen this before even seeing the bodies, so would have known something horrific had happened and surely not just tried to call the others or knock on their doors? The police have also confirmed that friends were called over before the police were called, whether this is the neighbours or they actually called some friends over I’m not sure. I’m hoping we find out the details about what happened when they woke, because it’s baffling me.

It's interesting that there is barely a mention of Bethany anywhere yet Dylan has really had the spotlight on her since it happened. Is this purely because she said she saw someone but then slept but Bethany was asleep the whole time? Dylan has also had suspicions cast on her however you wouldn't even know Bethany was there at all and sometimes forget that she was.

Here you go

www.bbc.co.uk/search?q=idaho&d=news_ps

BBC has covered quite well.

I find the layout of the house a bit confusing so I can't work out what part of the house the blood from upstairs would have seeped through the floorboards to and honestly I can't think about it too long as it's disturbing.

Does anyone know which rooms were directly below the rooms where they were attacked?

@Tescoland I wondered the same thing , take the dog away and then I get confused , did Kaylee leave Murphy shut in the room and go to maddie because some reports say as she had moved out her room
Was empty , no bedding etc so she was sleeping with maddie .. would
She have left Murphy in her old
Room
Alone or did he move him after the murders
So many questions

@ImprobablePuffin Bethany has definitely been mentioned so much less than Dylan hasn't she

I think if he moved the dog if would have to have been before as apparently the dog didn't have a drop of blood on him. But then that raises more questions. Stopping what you're doing to move a dog which could potentially alert someone that you're there. It just doesn't make sense to me.

@ImprobablePuffin absolutely , stopping to move him then get back to carry out the stabbings , unless the dog was there and covered in the corner but then as you said no blood on him
I really hope the police have all the evidence they truly need

About the dog, I’ve heard that BK shut him in the other room, and apparently didn’t harm him because he is a strict vegan and wouldn’t harm animals.. but would brutally murder humans 🙄
this is all speculation of course but that’s the story that’s doing the rounds

I guess it depends on where the dog was to begin with. If he was accessible and easy to 'put away' as it were

The dog might have been in Kaylee’s room but then she went to sleep with Madison and left him in there?

There’s a photograph taken from outside the house of one of the windows, and you can see where a trail of blood has run down it, it’s pretty grim. I don’t think you can slaughter 4 people with a knife and not be covered in blood. One of the girls on the top floor also apparently had significantly more wounds than the others (according to her father) so there seems to be an element of overkill with one at least. I expect during the trial the photos of the scenes will be horrific.

If the victims were all asleep in bed the murderer would have had to be leaning over them. I find it hard to believe he wouldn’t have had blood all over his face even which would surely have been noticed if Dylan was close enough to notice his eyebrows. Unless he stopped to wash it off of course.

The dog is also odd. I thought Kaylee’s room had been cleared out which was why she slept with Maddie in her single bed. I would have thought they’d have had the dog in with them. From videos on SM it seemed well loved. If BK (a stranger) had picked it up and shut it in the other room surely it would have been barking a lot, enough to wake them before he went back into the room?

That's what I was thinking but I thought I'd heard that the room the dog was found on was empty no bedding/bags etc. But I may well be wrong

I don’t know if this will help re: layout. A 360 tour of the house including references to the affidavit

https://kuula.co/post/NWZwx/collection/79sT0

Labradoodles are not famed for barking. They are very friendly even with total strangers. Teddybear dogs. They will literally let a burglar in, wagging their tail for them. And living in a busy house the dog was probably used to all kind of people and their comings and goings. BK probably stroked him to put him at ease so he could go and do his horrors.

Hard to explain his DNA on the fastening button of the sheath of the murder weapon found on the bed beside two victims.

Presumably the post mortem will have provided details about the size and shae of the murder weapon and it's possible the sheath did belong to the murder weapon but there is no proof that what seems most logical is fact. The sheath is a moveable object with minimal DNA on it, you only have evidence that he touched it at some point. His DNA does not prove he was there at the time of the murders or committed them. The affidavit said they had only isolated a single male DNA sample from it which seems odd given that it was found next to two women who had been brutally stabbed, why is there none of their DNA on it?

The lack of a sign of a break-in to the property is what really strikes me (as well as all of the other pieces which don't add up).

From what I can gather (although there is so much speculation it's hard to tell what is the truth), the house in question was the "social" house which had people coming and going all hours. It was where friends would meet up, hang out, have parties and generally live the typical student lifestyle. This house, more than others, was apparently considered a social hub by many.

It therefore doesn't seem unlikely that the door was left unlocked, either if it was forgotten or they may have anticipated someone else arriving at some point later on or in the morning so intentionally left it unlocked.

Purely speculating here but if the occupants of a house which has multiple people coming and going had become lapse around the locking of the door (to save having to constantly let friends in and out), it may just not have been locked. I suppose up until now, there may not have been any concerns regarding someone with bad intentions entering the house so it may not have crossed their minds to lock the door each and every evening especially if they'd been drinking. I can't blame them in the slightest - I live in quite different circumstances to them but consider my house to be in a very safe location and therefore I and quite often leave my front door locked (although not at night). You don't expect anything like this to happen, no one does, they can't have imagined this every happening to them.

Another speculation my friend had is that if this was the social house with lots of friends coming and going, more than one additional key to the property could have been cut, which could then have been shared/lost/stolen/copied meaning it fell into the hands of the person who committed this awful act. I also question, if the door was unlocked, whether the perpetrator knew that this might have been the case and if he did know, how? Did he just turn up and hope there would be easy entry to the house? Did he plan to break in somehow if not?

The whole case is an absolute mystery with so many unanswered questions and large parts which simply don't make sense. The lack of many solid facts from the authorities has also meant that large amounts of false information have been circulated online. I will be keeping a close eye on this case, it's a very, very sad one.