To not be able to stop thinking about the Idaho murder case

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Is anyone else following this case? It’s absolutely horrible and has really scared me to the point of locking my bedroom door when I sleep every night! The more that comes out in the news, the more bizarre and confusing the case seems to get too. So scary to think what people are capable of 😞

I'm leaning to the possibility that Brian did not act alone. Perhaps they are awaiting more evidence results before making further arrests.

The more I think about it the more I struggle to believe that one person could do this alone. If all (or most) of the victims had been alone then maybe but to kill 4 people in pairs just seems - improbable!

Gosh. Yeah. I’d not considered how big of a space the cell phone tower covers? If it’s a huge space then this will surely rather weaken the case against him.

In addition, the affidavit states that his cell phone pinged the cell tower serving Moscow on the 14th but investigators do not believe the phone was in Moscow on that date. They're going to have to explain why they think BK and his phone were in Moscow on the 12 other occasions the phone pinged the cell tower but not on the 14th.

BK's heroin taking was whilst he was at high school I believe but he had stopped taking it years ago. No doubt we'll find out more at trial.

The Idaho murders are scarier because the victims were chosen at random and stalked by a total stranger. It’s something that could happen to any one of us (although exceptionally unlikely).

The case you mention is horrible but doesn’t scare me, because I wouldn’t date a man who was electronically tagged, a cocaine addict and has a history of arson, GBH and robbing a newsagent with a knife. So it’s not something that could have happened to me.

@justgettingthroughtheday

That's what crossed my mind. I can't see any other reason why they wouldn't release it. Brian apparently asked if anyone else had been arrested.

16 minutes and 4 people dead. I kinda understood maddie and kaylee because they were in a single bed with one side against the wall. But I can't understand Ethan and xana. I do believe all roommates were awake when attacked.

@TangledBlue I don't think they were picked at random. Whomever it was in that house that was Brian's primary target was targeted for a reason. Even if that reason is not currently in the public domain.
I don't believe this was a random attack.

I think it’s unlikely to be completely random also - some kind of connection between the killer and victims will come out somewhere.

Probably to stop internet sleuths going “investigating” or anyone meddling with the investigation. Plus Reddit suggests this is common everywhere - it’s a legitimate reason not to disclose a document under freedom of information legislation. Nothing sinister. Presumably they anticipate anything useful will have been gleaned by 1 May and they can release it, or they’ll request an extension of the seal.

I read that at the request of Dylan, there’s been a no contact order put in place for a period of 2 years between the families of the victims and the surviving roommates.. what does that mean? That the families can’t contact the survivors? I don’t know the court lingo so not sure?

I’ll try to find the source for this

I think what Tangled Blue means is that it was a stranger. At least that’s my thought anyway. He may have ‘chosen’ them for a reason, but that’s like any stalker or crazed killer. They seek out someone then focus on them until the act is done.

of course it may emerge that he knew one of them, in which case my thought is incorrect. But that remains to be seen. Sadly, intimate partner violence is something that is viewed differently by many (including myself) because we like to think that that couldn’t be us.

Yes, that’s what it sounds like. Maybe it’s to be cautious, even if they weren’t aggressive towards her or blame her, they may be relentless in their questioning and I can see what she’d want to protect herself from that.

I don't know , I mean I can't be sure how I'd react as a survivor and with survivors guilt I'm sure but I can't imagine I would want to request a no contact order , their family members are in pain so I don't know if they've been blaming Dylan but I would
Like to think I would be kind to them
And want to help them as much as I possibly could being the last people
Who had been with their children etc

@NotAnotherBathBomb that's precisely what I'm saying! One of the victims will almost certainly have links to him. Even if they didn't know him well he knew them. He had a vendetta against someone within that house. This was personal. Not random.

I can’t find the original link to the source that said about the no contact order coming from Dylan, but these two articles mention it too.

However they both paint it in different lights so I’m not sure now if it’s between the families and survivors, or from BK to them all, which would make a lot more sense.

It did baffle me to think that Dylan would request that, it seems odd but as pp said I don’t know how I’d react in this situation so who knows.

Possibly because there may have been some persistent questioning by a member of one of the victims families. Dylan has had a really hard time of it online and generally with accusations and disbelief of her account. She will be traumatised by what happened and what she presumably saw in that house. She doesn't owe anyone anything.

It's for Brian to have no contact with the victims families or the roommates not the families to have no contact with the roommates

It’s horrendous, I feel so sorry for Dylan, she must have been in total shock that night. But must admit I find it bizarre that the 911 call was to report an unconscious housemate when apparently it was like a blood bath.

he certainly seems to have been casing the house, one of the dead girls reported (not officially reported I don’t th8nk)being stalked.

i’m normally one for believing in innocent until proven guilty but can’t see he’s go8ng to manage to talk his way out of this. Dna at the scene, phone switched off during the event time, phone records show him hanging around by the house at previous times. His car seen driving away.

That’s what was 8nitally thought but it’s now come on Dylan was on the middle floor, the floor with the sliding patio door. She stood in her bedroom doorway and passed right by her about a foot away as he was leaving, she watched him leave. Lots of speculation that because he was turning towards the exit and probably a bit tunnel visioned he just didn’t see her.

Just rewatched the end of the hearing and it's BK and named family members and survivors ('no contact orders).

She must be so stunned that he didn't see her when he walked past , the whole thing is just terrifying

There’s so much confusion about what happened when they woke. Initially it sounded like the surviving flatmates had no idea anything was wrong, and just couldn’t rouse their friends/ flatmates. At the time I remember thinking that was incredibly odd against the knowledge the murderer had used a knife.

Now it sounds more like Dylan and Bethany must have seen them in the morning, ran outside in panic / terror, one collapsed and a neighbour saw her on the ground and called 911. Which sounds a lot more logical than the women trying to wake someone who had been murdered by a knife attack.

One of the victims Madison Mogen is mentioned in connection to another girl, Hannah Cleere. Whether these rumours are true or not is not confirmed, and both of them being dead, the followers of this case can only speculate.

What those poor girls must have seen. It doesn't bare thinking about does it!

Wow.

I think it's understandable we comfort ourselves with the thought that we would recognise the signs of a potential family annihilator but they don't always have a criminal history or exhibit behaviour which would ring alarm bells. Many appear to have lead the life of an ordinary family man right up until the point they do something extraordinary such as killing their entire family.

www.ranker.com/list/family-annihilators/cat-mcauliffe

You might not know he had previous and he might have played the tag down. I very much doubt she knew exactly what she was bringing into her life when she met him.